Poll: Country's mood at historic low

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    Aug 01, 2008 12:58 PM GMT
    "The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. Poll showed that 24 percent have a positive outlook for the country, while 76 percent say things are on the wrong track.

    It is the lowest number on record since 1980 and the third time in four decades that the number has dropped so low."

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/31/poll.approval/index.html

    And yet the hinterlands still support repugnicans. Those people must be just brainless rubes!

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    Aug 01, 2008 1:21 PM GMT
    24 percent have a positive outlook? That isn't really surprising considering the presidents approval rating floats around 24. There is just a portion of the population who will eat shit if you tell them it is steak.
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    Aug 01, 2008 1:26 PM GMT
    Caslon5000 said"The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. Poll showed that 24 percent have a positive outlook for the country, while 76 percent say things are on the wrong track.

    It is the lowest number on record since 1980 and the third time in four decades that the number has dropped so low."

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/31/poll.approval/index.html

    And yet the hinterlands still support repugnicans. Those people must be just brainless rubes!



    By definition conservatives dislike change, of almost any sort, so it is no surprise that the Republicans have a strong base in some parts of the USA.

    I was glancing at CNN this morning (a rarity for me) and was listening to a young Democrat strategist sparring with a young Republican strategist about the candidates proposals for dealing with the energy issue. McCain's solution is to drill more, a very short-sighted band-aid solution, but depressingly typical of recent Republican platforms. Forget about looking long-term, just dig up the same old temporary fixes to serious problems to put the people back to sleep. Meanwhile the long-term problems keeping getting worse. Very discouraging.
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    Aug 01, 2008 2:18 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie said24 percent have a positive outlook? That isn't really surprising considering the presidents approval rating floats around 24. There is just a portion of the population who will eat shit if you tell them it is steak.


    And here I've been wasting all my time with USDA Choice Cuts. Off to the bathroom! LOL!

    I saw this report while on the treadmill yesterday and all I could think was...WELL DUH! Tell me something I don't know CNN.

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    Aug 01, 2008 3:07 PM GMT
    Is it too late to get her on the ballot?...




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    Aug 01, 2008 3:10 PM GMT
    icon_rolleyes.gif This is news? lol
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    Aug 01, 2008 5:51 PM GMT
    Historic lows since the 80's not surprising, but I know it was worse in 71 - 72 and 79 when my parents only got to fill up for gas every other day in PA.

    Plus, doesn't anyone save anymore?
    It is no surprise we are in the shape we are in, everyone lives in a buy now and pay later lifestyle. Well, payback is a painful.

    But, we will come out of it and hopefully be stronger and smarter. But until we stop being so wasteful, we can expect harderships.

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    Aug 01, 2008 5:56 PM GMT
    I just got my US citizenship, thinking about getting my Spanish citizenship through my grandfather....but Im still voting this November.
  • TexanMan82

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    Aug 01, 2008 6:40 PM GMT
    SurrealLife said
    Caslon5000 said"The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. Poll showed that 24 percent have a positive outlook for the country, while 76 percent say things are on the wrong track.

    It is the lowest number on record since 1980 and the third time in four decades that the number has dropped so low."

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/31/poll.approval/index.html

    And yet the hinterlands still support repugnicans. Those people must be just brainless rubes!



    By definition conservatives dislike change, of almost any sort, so it is no surprise that the Republicans have a strong base in some parts of the USA.

    I was glancing at CNN this morning (a rarity for me) and was listening to a young Democrat strategist sparring with a young Republican strategist about the candidates proposals for dealing with the energy issue. McCain's solution is to drill more, a very short-sighted band-aid solution, but depressingly typical of recent Republican platforms. Forget about looking long-term, just dig up the same old temporary fixes to serious problems to put the people back to sleep. Meanwhile the long-term problems keeping getting worse. Very discouraging.


    Why can't both short term and long term fixes be discussed? Drilling AND more research?
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    Aug 01, 2008 6:44 PM GMT
    They can and they should, but the Republicans, and politicians in general, think 4 years ahead so long-term solutions are rarely discussed.

    The ironic thing is some people think that by drilling near the USA, the oil will go to the US. It won't it will go onto the open market so the USA will only be marginally better off.

    Due to the Alberta tar sands, Canada has potentially a huge deposit of oil. But we still pay very high gas prices. Much of the tar sands oil goes south to the USA.
  • SmileBeKind

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    Aug 02, 2008 2:19 PM GMT
    I watched some stand-up thing with Roseanne Barr the other day and she was talking about anti-depressants and I can't quote it exactly but it went something like... "We shouldn't be taking anti-depressants. Did you ever stop to think, 'maybe we should be depressed?' The economy is in the shitter, we're in an unstopable war, half the people in the world are starving, the other half are trying to lose weight... Maybe we should be depressed"
    When I think about Bush and just the state of the country in general I always just kinda laugh and think... It's ok, I should be depressed.
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    Aug 02, 2008 2:48 PM GMT
    For the most part, the American public are lemmings; they believe what CNN, NBC, et al tell them to believe. Currently those news outlets are painting the worst possible picture because they want to get Obama elected. It's totally obvious they are in the tank (3 new anchors following Obama to Iraq?!?!). Am I the only person who is suffering from Obama over-exposure.

    If you want to reference polls, we shouldn't overlook the lowest approval ratings of all; the Democratic controlled congress is at 14%; the absolute lowest measurement in the history of that poll. Perhaps the country is bummed about that?

    As for me, my personal mood/outlook is totally positive. My glass it full.

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    Aug 02, 2008 2:56 PM GMT
    Yes, that bad old Democratic congress, which has passed bill after bill, only to see them get filibustered by a Republican party which has determined that no Democratic bill will pass this year. They're not even making a secret of it.

    The public isn't fooled. The other part of that low approval rating is "which party do you think is responsible for this inaction"? and the overwhelming majority blames the Republicans.

    People aren't THAT stupid.
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    Aug 02, 2008 3:49 PM GMT
    I truly love the fact that my IRA is going downhill on a bobsled to hell. Pissed off? You bet your ass!
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    Aug 02, 2008 3:57 PM GMT
    Hmmmm...wonder if the lowest approval rating of congress EVER has anything to do with it? Will be interesting to see this fall just how many Americans truly are disgruntledicon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 02, 2008 4:15 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidHmmmm...wonder if the lowest approval rating of congress EVER has anything to do with it? Will be interesting to see this fall just how many Americans truly are disgruntledicon_rolleyes.gif


    Approval ratings for congress are always low. Approval rating for individual congressmen though are at usual highs.

    But people are mad as hell at our government and that is showing in almost all polls. As current polling indicates the Dems are going to pick up at least four seats in the senate and could very well get a supermajority in the House.
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    Aug 02, 2008 4:37 PM GMT
    xxGymRatxx saidI watched some stand-up thing with Roseanne Barr the other day and she was talking about anti-depressants and I can't quote it exactly but it went something like... "We shouldn't be taking anti-depressants. Did you ever stop to think, 'maybe we should be depressed?' The economy is in the shitter, we're in an unstopable war, half the people in the world are starving, the other half are trying to lose weight... Maybe we should be depressed"
    When I think about Bush and just the state of the country in general I always just kinda laugh and think... It's ok, I should be depressed.


    Amen!

    My boyfriend was telling me about a report he saw that said there is a record number of pets in the U.S. on anti-depressants. Pets!
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    Aug 02, 2008 4:50 PM GMT
    The economy grew 1.9% this last quarter...so no people..we are not in a recession
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    Aug 02, 2008 5:10 PM GMT
    nycusa05 saidThe economy grew 1.9% this last quarter...so no people..we are not in a recession


    That's just a part of the story....

    NY Times
    More Arrows Seen Pointing to a Recession

    By PETER S. GOODMAN
    Published: August 1, 2008

    The American economy expanded more slowly than expected from April to June, the government reported Thursday, while numbers for the last three months of 2007 were revised downward to show a contraction — the first official slide backward since the last recession in 2001.

    Economists construed the tepid growth in the second quarter, combined with a surge in claims for unemployment benefits, as a clear indication that the economy remains mired in the weeds of a downturn. Many said the data increased the likelihood that a recession began late last year.

    The next major piece of data comes Friday, when the government is to release its monthly snapshot of the job market. Analysts expect the report to show a loss of 75,000 jobs, signifying the seventh straight month of declines.

    “We already knew the economy was weak, and now you have both a negative growth number coupled with job losses,” said Dean Baker, a director of the liberal Center for Economic and Policy Research. “There’s a lot of real bad times to come.”

    President Bush zeroed in on the positive growth in the second quarter — a 1.9 percent annual rate of expansion, compared with an anticipated 2.3 percent rate. That follows growth of 0.9 percent in the first quarter. He claimed success for the $100 billion in tax rebates sent out by the government this year in a bid to spur spending, along with $52 billion in tax cuts for businesses.

    “We got some positive news today,” the president said in West Virginia, addressing a coal industry trade association. “It’s not as good as we’d like it to be but I want to remind you a few months ago, there were predictions, and — that the economy would shrink this quarter, not grow.”

    But the snapshot of disappointing economic growth released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis on Thursday morning provided no comfort to Wall Street, where a broad sell-off commenced. By the end of business, the Dow Jones industrial average was down 206 points to close at 11,378, a drop of nearly 2 percent.

    The rout may have been explained in part by significant changes the government made to historical data on the profitability of American businesses. According to the revised numbers, corporate profits earned in the United States by American companies rose much more swiftly than previously recorded from 2005 through 2007, making the recent decline appear much steeper.

    That the economy grew at all this spring is a testament to two bright spots — increased consumer spending fueled by the tax rebates, and the continuing expansion of American exports.

    Consumer spending, which amounts to 70 percent of the economy, grew at a 1.5 percent annual rate between April and June, after growing at a meager 0.9 percent clip in the previous quarter.

    “Clearly the tax rebates did give some oomph to the economy,” said Robert Barbera, chief economist at the research and trading firm ITG.

    Exports expanded at a 9.2 percent annual pace in the second quarter, up from 5.1 percent in the first three months of the year. Foreign sales have been lubricated by the weak dollar, which makes American-made goods cheaper on world markets.

    Adding to the improving trade picture, imports dropped by 6.6 percent, as Americans tightened their spending. Imports are subtracted from economic growth, so the effect was positive.

    Over all, trade added 2.42 percentage points to the growth rate from April to June. Without that contribution, the economy would have contracted.

    But many economists are dubious that consumer spending and exports can keep growing robustly in the face of substantial challenges that are now entrenched in the United States and are gathering force in many other major economies. Japan and much of Europe appear headed into downturns, damping demand for American-made products.

    “The trade improvement doesn’t look sustainable,” said Jan Hatzius, an economist at Goldman Sachs in New York. “In an environment where the global economy is clearly slowing, you’re not being able to get that export growth in future quarters.”

  • GQjock

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    Aug 03, 2008 9:28 AM GMT
    Are we surprised that highest number of people ever think the country is headed in the wrong direction?

    Is there Anything...ANYTHING that we're Doing right?
    We're being sucked dry by the deregulation madness that was ushered in by Reagan back in the eighties where nothing mattered until you squeezed some money out of the system
    We have a Presidency that blatantly has skirted the law and is running rampant in this country and worldwide
    We're closing our eyes that we as a nation have tortured people like the countries we used to try to help people escape from
    An infrastructure that's crumbling
    a Housing market that was the mainstay of families investment-wise that has collapsed
    Two wars neither of which have been planned correctly and one of which should never have been fought in the first place
    And a congress which has done nothing to stop an executive branch from being held accountable for the multitude of crimes that they have committed against the American people and the people of the world
    .... so yeah....
    I'd say we're a fairly negative bunch these days
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