Soy and sperm count...huh??

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    Aug 01, 2008 10:02 PM GMT
    Not that I think it's an unimportant study, but why does Realjock care about a study that shows soy is linked to low sperm counts? The last time I checked, it wasn't a very high concern around here...

    Note that the RJ article does not talk about testosterone.
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    Aug 02, 2008 1:31 AM GMT
    Perhaps they are concerned that we are donating sperm to the lesbian couples wanting babies.
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    Aug 02, 2008 1:33 AM GMT
    "your sperm's in the gutter
    your love's in the sink"
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    Aug 02, 2008 1:33 AM GMT
    Or maybe because sperm is still a part of our bodies. Yeah, maybe we aren't fathering children at the same numbers that hetero guys are, that doesn't mean I don't care about my boys! Lol.

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    Aug 02, 2008 1:40 AM GMT
    Its important news because they found evidence that soy does effect the body in some way. The study only tested sperm count anyway, not T levels. Testosterone and sperm production are linked. If it effects sperm production, it could have an effect on T production or free testosterone as well. On to the next study.
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    Aug 02, 2008 3:10 AM GMT
    Maybe it tastes better with more swimers.
  • Rightguard

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    Aug 02, 2008 3:14 AM GMT
    Oh crap, this must be why I can't get guys pregnant!
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    Dec 08, 2010 10:14 AM GMT
    Because its a factor in building hugh muscles.
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    Dec 10, 2010 8:59 AM GMT
    If you read the studies, which are few, the amount of soy you would have to eat is huge. Eating soy has NO effect on anyone.
  • Vaughn

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    Dec 10, 2010 9:29 AM GMT
    bryanc_74 saidNot that I think it's an unimportant study, but why does Realjock care about a study that shows soy is linked to low sperm counts? The last time I checked, it wasn't a very high concern around here...

    Note that the RJ article does not talk about testosterone.


    It's a good thing I don't need all that sperm!
  • Vaughn

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    Dec 10, 2010 9:30 AM GMT
    Rightguard saidOh crap, this must be why I can't get guys pregnant!
    Of course you can. Just try harder. Have them eat a lot of soy and make sure to have safe sex.
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    Dec 11, 2010 2:23 PM GMT
    This reminds me of a guy I dated back in the mid 80s. We thought it a good idea to get tested as we were getting hot and heavy with each other.

    My tests turned out fine. He said his did too. I asked what kind of tests he did, having read out mine.

    ....he'd gotten a sperm count done. icon_rolleyes.gif That more or less ended things right there. icon_lol.gif

    -Doug
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    Dec 12, 2010 8:00 AM GMT
    What do you mean? It is important to make healthy babies, still a major concern for some of us. icon_twisted.gif
  • helium

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    Dec 12, 2010 12:21 PM GMT
    The other thing that RealJock posted this study is because of the fact that soy causes the production estrogen (the female hormone) which does affect a lot with muscle generation and sperm count. A lot of people (including myself) tend to use soy milk as a substitute for milk and as such we need to be aware that we cannot always rely on this since we are men and as such should have higher levels of testosterone.
  • Runningrass

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    Dec 13, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
    If soy products actually caused infertility, wouldn't asians be on the verge of extinction by now? just sayin'. *finishes off glass of soy milk*
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    Dec 13, 2010 8:51 PM GMT
    The phytoestrogens in soy (plant estrogens) genistein and daidzein are weak estrogens that can bind to estrogen receptors and prevent the binding of the stronger human hormone.

    There is significant evidence consumption of soy reduces prostate cancer in men as well as colon cancer, with the former being due to the minor DHT lowering effect and the latter being due to the sphingolipids.

    The biological protein value of soy is similar to eggs.

    They are even recommending soy consumption for prevention of breast cancer in women now and those who HAD breast cancer to prevent new tumor growth.

    So, soy is good. There isn't evidence it hurts anabolic effects of weight training or diminishes the effect. So stop blaming soy!

    I've been eating soy perhaps over 50-80g a day since I was 16. Maybe it made me gay (sarcasm).