red light camera ticket

  • Import

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    Jun 29, 2012 2:53 PM GMT
    fuck my life.

    Just received a citation in the mail yesterday for $150 for a red light camera ticket. .

    daaaaamn, whatta surprise to get in the mail. Never got one before, but they send you three pictures.... your car before it runs the light, and then as it's running the light and then shows the tail end of ur car full on through the intersection at the red light. .


    I have absolutely no recollection of ever running a red light, however I guess I can't argue with the camera. I don't drive around running red lights, etc. Perhaps it was yellow and I went through too late? I dunno....

    I kind of feel it's not really fair, because otherwise my driving record is pristine. No speeding tickets, no moving violations to speak of, nothing.....and now I have this!!

    anyone ever get one of these and try and fight it in court?

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    Jun 29, 2012 3:22 PM GMT
    That's it?? My red-light camera ticket was for $359. Blaaaagghgh!!
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
    Luckily Houston voters overturned it. If it hadn't i would be receiving tickets left and right.

    The cities need to do a better job of timing the lights. If you catch one red light you catch them all, so of course I will run 1 red light to avoid the rest haha.
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
    ECnAZ saidThat's it?? My red-light camera ticket was for $359. Blaaaagghgh!!


    shit man, that's harsh.
    and here I thought $150 was excessive.
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:24 PM GMT
    And be careful of right turns on red without stopping. They, at least in California, can monitor this too.
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:25 PM GMT
    I got two. Never paid them. There is a loop hole in the law. So many people never paid them in LA County they just banned them. hahah.
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:26 PM GMT
    msuNtx saidLuckily Houston voters overturned it. If it hadn't i would be receiving tickets left and right.

    The cities need to do a better job of timing the lights. If you catch one red light you catch them all, so of course I will run 1 red light to avoid the rest haha.


    OMG, it happened to me last night. After the gym, I'm trying to get to the closest PetSmart or my cat wouldn't eat. But, I seriously caught every red light on a stretch of about 12 miles, where there is practically a traffic light every 1/4 to 1/2 mile. I think my brakes were smoking by the time I got to Petsmart…..which just locked their doors up and no one was near the front to let me beg to make a purchase...
  • Import

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    Jun 29, 2012 3:27 PM GMT
    I'm not fuckin with mine. I'm gonna pay it.

    Dont wanna get my shit suspended. It just seeeeems so unfair ugh
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 29, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
    Depending on where your car is registered, and if you live in a gated community where there is no easy access, you can beat the ticket if you don't respond at all and hope they don't serve you. Even if they do, you can still pay the ticket or go to traffic school and it's an additional $30 for the serve fee. They have 3 months to serve you, and if they don't then the ticket drops off. However, you cannot respond AT ALL --- meaning don't call the number on the ticket or go to the website they ask you to go to. Once you have responded in any way, you have been served. However, mailing you a ticket is NOT serving you, and this is the technical loophole that allows people to beat the ticket. They must serve you personally. Serving a mailbox, or serving a doorstep, is NOT serving you.
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
    We have them locally. I don't like them because they seem too big brotherish. But I do like how they reduce running reds as shown by the stats I've read. These are set so they only ticket if you enter the intersection after the light turns red, not if you are caught already in the intersection while the light turns to red so the offense needs to be flagrant to be ticketed.

    As I understand them, at least the ones here, the driver does not get points on their license and so I presume then that it does not effect insurance rates, only wallets and egos. And probably they save more lives than they disrupt.

    I would not feel the same way about the automatic ticketing of speeders, except, of course, for the scum who speed on my block.
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:32 PM GMT
    It was a rental car with out-of-state tags and yes, I live in a gated community.


    Enterprise rent-a-car charged me an "admin fee" fee of $19 for "transferring" the ticket from the rental company to me icon_confused.gif


    I'm being fucked here!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 29, 2012 3:33 PM GMT
    theantijock saidthe driver does not get points on their license and so I presume then that it does not effect insurance rates, only wallets and egos. And probably they save more lives than they disrupt.



    I agree they save lives, but a ticket is a ticket. At least here in AZ, you lose points on your license each time you get one, and you are allowed to go to traffic school once every two years to have one removed.
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    Import saidI'm not fuckin with mine. I'm gonna pay it.

    Dont wanna get my shit suspended. It just seeeeems so unfair ugh


    Yeah, I didn't take the chance. But I was able to take an online defensive driving course since it was my first ticket. It cost me $250 and the ticket is off my record.
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
    ECnAZ said
    Import saidI'm not fuckin with mine. I'm gonna pay it.

    Dont wanna get my shit suspended. It just seeeeems so unfair ugh


    Yeah, I didn't take the chance. But I was able to take an online defensive driving course since it was my first ticket. It cost me $250 and the ticket is off my record.



    WOW, that is terrible. Our def driving courses here are like 40 bucks. You can take them for most driving offenses once every 1.
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    Jun 29, 2012 3:55 PM GMT
    I like CuriousJockAZ's advice about the serving (and I'll remember this). But in your case you can't get out of this - as you've explained. I know it is a boring drag, but I'd suggest devoting a Saturday to going to traffic school. I did this once - to eliminate a ticket. It was an o.k. class and was taught by a highway patrolman - who loved hearing himself talk. It was a bore - but it was over and done with. Consider this. It helps your record stay pristine.
  • TheAlchemixt

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    Jun 29, 2012 4:00 PM GMT
    Don't run red lights!
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    Jun 29, 2012 4:01 PM GMT
    Mixleanmachine saidDon't run red lights!


    Easier said than done my friend.
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    Jun 29, 2012 4:06 PM GMT
    Mixleanmachine saidDon't run red lights!

    omg, you're profound!

    why didnt i think of that?!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 29, 2012 4:08 PM GMT
    Import said
    Mixleanmachine saidDon't run red lights!

    omg, you're profound!

    why didnt i think of that?!



    I like "BLOW UP THE SPEED CAMERAS" better icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 29, 2012 4:10 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Import said
    Mixleanmachine saidDon't run red lights!

    omg, you're profound!

    why didnt i think of that?!



    I like "BLOW UP THE SPEED CAMERAS" better icon_lol.gif


    or shoot the cameras out ....whilst running the light icon_twisted.gif
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Jun 29, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidI got two. Never paid them. There is a loop hole in the law. So many people never paid them in LA County they just banned them. hahah.


    this.


    however long island another story, The county made so much money they received funding for 350 more of those fuckers.
    I got the ticket a month after I got back from vacation from my family. so lame
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    Jun 29, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    theantijock saidthe driver does not get points on their license and so I presume then that it does not effect insurance rates, only wallets and egos. And probably they save more lives than they disrupt.



    I agree they save lives, but a ticket is a ticket. At least here in AZ, you lose points on your license each time you get one, and you are allowed to go to traffic school once every two years to have one removed.



    Thank you so much for taking my words out of context. How unusual and accidental an oversight.

    But just to clarify, I did not say, as you show I said, merely that "the driver does not get points on their license".

    Rather
    what I said was that ...As I understand them, at least the ones here, the driver does not get points on their license ...


    Which I said because that was the information reported about them when my town discussed installing them in my area. I wouldn't know it first hand because I don't run red lights.

    Meanwhile...

    CuriousJockAZ saidDepending on where your car is registered, and if you live in a gated community where there is no easy access, you can beat the ticket if you don't respond at all and hope they don't serve you. ....

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    Jockbod48 saidI like CuriousJockAZ's advice about the serving (and I'll remember this). But in your case you can't get out of this...

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    Far be it from me to politicize, never mind an RJ thread, but a run of the mill one about running a red, but as glaring as is the offense, I couldn't help but notice two republicans proudly lauding their way into avoiding their responsibility to society, not even in making amends for their offenses.

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    Jun 29, 2012 4:21 PM GMT
    From what I understand, depends on the state where the incident occurred. If Calif, there was some discussion about a state wide non enforcement but I don't know the status of that. A while back a friend got one and called a law firm specializing in traffic offenses. They were very confident they could get him out of it but would cost $1000. Not worth it if only a first offense. In Calif you can take traffic school online once every 18 months....I think that is statewide. Also google red light traffic ticket California, or the state where it occurred.
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    Jun 29, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    theantijock saidthe driver does not get points on their license and so I presume then that it does not effect insurance rates, only wallets and egos. And probably they save more lives than they disrupt.



    I agree they save lives, but a ticket is a ticket. At least here in AZ, you lose points on your license each time you get one, and you are allowed to go to traffic school once every two years to have one removed.


    I'm not so sure they save lives. With the exception of msuNtx, most people do not intentionally run red lights. When someone runs a red light it is usually the result of momentary inattention. People do not intentionally plan monentary moments of inattention. We are human and they just happen, and yes sometimes with catastrophic and fatal results. All the traffic cameras in the world will not prevent human error. Traffic cameras are only there to generate revenue for fiscally irresponsibly run municipalities.

    To those who I am sure I will hear from who lost loved ones in traffic accidents, I am sorry for your loss. The loss of a loved one is a terrible thing and I am sorry for yours. I am in no way condoning irresponsible behavior on the part of drivers - intentionally running red lights or stop signs, drinking and driving, excessive speed and reckless driving. These behaviors are intentional and are unforgiveable when they result in the death of an innocent person. However, traffic cameras will not prevent momentary lapses in attention. and are only there to generate revenue. You will not convince me otherwise.
  • calibro

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    Jun 29, 2012 4:24 PM GMT
    check to see if there's a legal movement building against it in your area... a bunch of judges have rules the cameras are illegal because you can't be served due process from them, i.e., you can't challenge them in court.