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    Jun 29, 2012 4:21 PM GMT
    ...but can't find a wealthy Western Democracy without universal health care.


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    Jun 29, 2012 4:37 PM GMT
    This was my favorite gif posted on facebook yesterday

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    Caslon19000 said...but can't find a wealthy Western Democracy without universal health care.


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    Jun 29, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    LMAO! I actually saw a quite a few Republicans around the web complaining they are going to move to Canada after this at which point I had the joy and satisfaction of pointing out to their dumb asses that Canada ALREADY has universal healthcare and is doing just fine with it. Fucking idiots. I swear to God Fox News and Rush have been one of the worst things to ever happen to this country.

    And oh yeah I also keep reminding them of this......

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    Jun 29, 2012 5:15 PM GMT
    Will RJ conservatives be moving too?
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    Jun 29, 2012 5:32 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidWill RJ conservatives be moving too?

    Let's pass the hat. icon_twisted.gif
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    catfish5 saidWill RJ conservatives be moving too?

    Let's pass the hat. icon_twisted.gif


    Afghanistan perhaps. There is no universal healthcare and one of the major political parties is a group of bigoted religious fundamentalists.
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    Jun 29, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    Art_Deco said
    catfish5 saidWill RJ conservatives be moving too?

    Let's pass the hat. icon_twisted.gif


    Afghanistan perhaps. There is no universal healthcare and one of the major political parties is a group of bigoted religious fundamentalists.


    Afghanistan?

    I thought you were talking ABOUT the United States
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    Jun 29, 2012 7:00 PM GMT
    the ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.
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    Jun 29, 2012 7:24 PM GMT
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.







    What's the matter Doc ? does this National Health Care program cut into some of the Doc's windfall profits at the expense of the poor and middle classes that you Doc's now enjoy ?

    Isn't it a shame that under Obamacare, hospitals will be cut out of those extra dollars they put on the bills for those patients not covered by insurance. (surely you know that the insured benefit from large Ins. Corps negotiating down the fees, a benefit previously not available to so many not having insurance)

    I'm sure you Republicans will take great pride in doing your damndest to go back to the days when many a family lost their fortunes to the Doc's, Hospitials and Nursing homes because of being under or not insured. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!! YOU PEOPLE SHOOT FOR SUCH LOFTY GOALS !!!
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    Jun 29, 2012 8:03 PM GMT
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    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.







    What's the matter Doc ? does this National Health Care program cut into some of the Doc's windfall profits at the expense of the poor and middle classes that you Doc's now enjoy ?

    Isn't it a shame that under Obamacare, hospitals will be cut out of those extra dollars they put on the bills for those patients not covered by insurance. (surely you know that the insured benefit from large Ins. Corps negotiating down the fees, a benefit previously not available to so many not having insurance)

    I'm sure you Republicans will take great pride in doing your damndest to go back to the days when many a family lost their fortunes to the Doc's, Hospitials and Nursing homes because of being under or not insured. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!! YOU PEOPLE SHOOT FOR SUCH LOFTY GOALS !!!


    Bingo!! The so called Doc will lose $$$ because of reduced reimbursement. That is all this fucker is concerned about.
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    Jun 29, 2012 8:36 PM GMT
    realifedad said
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.







    What's the matter Doc ? does this National Health Care program cut into some of the Doc's windfall profits at the expense of the poor and middle classes that you Doc's now enjoy ?

    Isn't it a shame that under Obamacare, hospitals will be cut out of those extra dollars they put on the bills for those patients not covered by insurance. (surely you know that the insured benefit from large Ins. Corps negotiating down the fees, a benefit previously not available to so many not having insurance)

    I'm sure you Republicans will take great pride in doing your damndest to go back to the days when many a family lost their fortunes to the Doc's, Hospitials and Nursing homes because of being under or not insured. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!! YOU PEOPLE SHOOT FOR SUCH LOFTY GOALS !!!



    You ignorant fool. You have no idea what or how my reimbursement cuts into anything I do.

    20% of my patients are indigent and have no insurance.

    I am salaried , it does not effect me at all. But I still have principles of right and wrong. I do have the ability to see past my own gain if it was present.

    We see patients without insurance based on our organizations eligibility.

    Potentially if the system proposed was viable ( which it is not) I theoretically would be better as everyone would be insured.

    I chose the area of medicine I practice in because I can help the most people. And i am good at it.

    No matter what happens in society. As long as I am able bodied I doubt I would be in a bad spot.

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    Jun 29, 2012 8:43 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    realifedad said
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.


    What's the matter Doc ? does this National Health Care program cut into some of the Doc's windfall profits at the expense of the poor and middle classes that you Doc's now enjoy ?

    Isn't it a shame that under Obamacare, hospitals will be cut out of those extra dollars they put on the bills for those patients not covered by insurance. (surely you know that the insured benefit from large Ins. Corps negotiating down the fees, a benefit previously not available to so many not having insurance)

    I'm sure you Republicans will take great pride in doing your damndest to go back to the days when many a family lost their fortunes to the Doc's, Hospitials and Nursing homes because of being under or not insured. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!! YOU PEOPLE SHOOT FOR SUCH LOFTY GOALS !!!



    You ignorant fool. You have no idea what or how my reimbursement cuts into anything I do.

    20% of my patients are indigent and have no insurance.

    I am salaried , it does not effect me at all. But I still have principles of right and wrong. I do have the ability to see past my own gain if it was present.

    We see patients without insurance based on our organizations eligibility.

    Potentially if the system proposed was viable ( which it is not) I theoretically would be better as everyone would be insured.

    I chose the area of medicine I practice in because I can help the most people. And i am good at it.

    No matter what happens in society. As long as I am able bodied I doubt I would be in a bad spot.


    You are bursting their bubble of simple thoughts. They justify their ideology by believing that implies generosity and that others must only be selfish. Results from thinking both narrow and shallow.
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    Jun 29, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    realifedad said
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.







    What's the matter Doc ? does this National Health Care program cut into some of the Doc's windfall profits at the expense of the poor and middle classes that you Doc's now enjoy ?

    Isn't it a shame that under Obamacare, hospitals will be cut out of those extra dollars they put on the bills for those patients not covered by insurance. (surely you know that the insured benefit from large Ins. Corps negotiating down the fees, a benefit previously not available to so many not having insurance)

    I'm sure you Republicans will take great pride in doing your damndest to go back to the days when many a family lost their fortunes to the Doc's, Hospitials and Nursing homes because of being under or not insured. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!! YOU PEOPLE SHOOT FOR SUCH LOFTY GOALS !!!



    You ignorant fool. You have no idea what or how my reimbursement cuts into anything I do.

    20% of my patients are indigent and have no insurance.

    I am salaried , it does not effect me at all. But I still have principles of right and wrong. I do have the ability to see past my own gain if it was present.

    We see patients without insurance based on our organizations eligibility.

    Potentially if the system proposed was viable ( which it is not) I theoretically would be better as everyone would be insured.

    I chose the area of medicine I practice in because I can help the most people. And i am good at it.

    No matter what happens in society. As long as I am able bodied I doubt I would be in a bad spot.



    20% of your patients are indigent and have no insurance. Explain to me why they are not on MediCal?

    You may be salaried, but salaries can be slashed depending on overall reimbursement from health insurance companies.

    Are your patients who have no insurance 100% write offs?

    You may not be in a bad spot. Just not living the luxury lifestyle u are currently used to. And seeing more patients for less$$$
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    Jun 29, 2012 9:16 PM GMT
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013. You "ignorant fool".. only the TAX (penalty) can be repealed.... the REST of the bill will stay.......... unless the GOP wants to cut its throat permanently.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.
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    Jun 29, 2012 9:25 PM GMT
    Here's what I observe when I'm in a doctor's waiting room. And believe me, that's several times a month, with my partner's poor health & mine.

    Yachting magazines to read, with the doctor's name on the address label. Prices in the tens of millions (USD). Then the exotic car magazines. Some of those rides go for 7 figures.

    One that especially amuses me are the wristwatch magazines. A little less pricey for those, only going up to 6 figures, though of course something exclusive from an internationally known jeweler, that also advertise, could be any price.

    And I see the other patients, and think to myself: "Do they have any likelihood of owning a 2 million dollar Bugatti sports car? Are they gonna cruise on a 25 million dollar yacht?" Somehow I doubt it.

    But then I recall that outside I saw the doctor's Maserati parked, or his Bentley. And I realize these mags aren't for us, they're his own discarded copies. A reminder of how much he makes. And why my partner's 12-day hospital stay cost him $400,000. And why my cancer treatment was nearly $200,000.

    Most US doctors choose their profession to make obscene amounts of money. There is no nobility involved, no sense of humanity. It's all about the money. And any who claim otherwise are liars.

    Hence their fierce opposition to Obamacare. It may mean more and better health care to citizens, but less money to the doctors. It never was about treating people, it's always been about the money. Reduce the money, and hear them squeal. Deny health coverage to millions, and you won't hear a peep from them, so long as they still get their money.
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    Art_Deco saidHere's what I observe when I'm in a doctor's waiting room. And believe me, that's several times a month, with my partner's poor health & mine.

    Yachting magazines to read, with the doctor's name on the address label. Prices in the tens of millions (USD). Then the exotic car magazines. Some of those rides go for 7 figures.

    One that especially amuses me are the wristwatch magazines. A little less pricey for those, only going up to 6 figures, though of course something exclusive from an internationally known jeweler, that also advertise, could be any price.

    And I see the other patients, and think to myself: "Do they have any likelihood of owning a 2 million dollar Bugatti sports car? Are they gonna cruise on a 25 million dollar yacht? Somehow I doubt it.

    But then I recall that outside I saw the doctor's Maserati parked, or his Bentley. And I realize these mags aren't for us, they're his own discarded copies. A reminder of how much he makes. And why my partner's 12-day hospital stay cost him $400,000. And why my cancer treatment was nearly $200,000.

    Most US doctors choose their profession to make obscene amounts of money. There is no nobility involved, no sense of humanity. It's all about the money. And any who claim otherwise are liars.

    Hence their fierce opposition to Obamacare. It may mean more and better health care to citizens, but less money to the doctors. It never was about treating people, it's always been about the money. Reduce the money, and hear them squeal. Deny health coverage to millions, and you won't hear a peep from them, so long as they still get their money.


    Plus all their $$$ doesnt come from the office they work in. They have ownership in pharmacies, Imaging centers, surgery centers, rehab centers etc that they self refer their patients to boost profits... Dont let the Dr fool ya!
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    Jun 29, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    musclmed said
    realifedad said
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.




    You ignorant fool. You have no idea what or how my reimbursement cuts into anything I do.

    20% of my patients are indigent and have no insurance.

    I am salaried , it does not effect me at all. But I still have principles of right and wrong. I do have the ability to see past my own gain if it was present.

    We see patients without insurance based on our organizations eligibility.

    Potentially if the system proposed was viable ( which it is not) I theoretically would be better as everyone would be insured.

    I chose the area of medicine I practice in because I can help the most people. And i am good at it.

    No matter what happens in society. As long as I am able bodied I doubt I would be in a bad spot.



    20% of your patients are indigent and have no insurance. Explain to me why they are not on MediCal?

    You may be salaried, but salaries can be slashed depending on overall reimbursement from health insurance companies.

    Are your patients who have no insurance 100% write offs?

    You may not be in a bad spot. Just not living the luxury lifestyle u are currently used to. And seeing more patients for less$$$



    1) We see patients in the motion picture industry. We do not accept medical
    ( there are several reasons) we could not restrict to only industry guild members if we took medical. We would have to take everyone.
    The mission of the orginazation is for Industry healthcare, as the guild members have trouble seeing doctors because of schedules.
    Unemployed and under-insured can be seen for zero cost, we are a nonprofit charity.
    FYI very few if any doctors take medical. As it is a bankrupting procedure. Since they pay less than the operating costs it takes to see a patient.
    So there is a vacuum of medical providers.
    Medical is not the magical insurance that its pumped up to be.

    Luxury lifestyle. Hardly. as per rentmen you make more per hour than I do. How about that....Cat

    I still have 150k in medical school loans 14 years out. how about that smartass

    stick to rentmen



    To answer ART_DECO, who has his honorary degree in Medicine as well.

    The doctors working today came to work in a honda, toyota prius and I have an Acura.

    we work between 50-70 hours a week. 10% of those hours are unpaid overtime we do to deal with the mounting paperwork and crap we have to do to just get our patients what they need.

    I guess i could do Botox on the weekends, But I am involved in HIV research with is completely a volunteer position.

    http://benbrownmd.wordpress.com/
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    Jun 29, 2012 10:01 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    catfish5 said
    musclmed said
    realifedad said
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.




    You ignorant fool. You have no idea what or how my reimbursement cuts into anything I do.

    20% of my patients are indigent and have no insurance.

    I am salaried , it does not effect me at all. But I still have principles of right and wrong. I do have the ability to see past my own gain if it was present.

    We see patients without insurance based on our organizations eligibility.

    Potentially if the system proposed was viable ( which it is not) I theoretically would be better as everyone would be insured.

    I chose the area of medicine I practice in because I can help the most people. And i am good at it.

    No matter what happens in society. As long as I am able bodied I doubt I would be in a bad spot.



    20% of your patients are indigent and have no insurance. Explain to me why they are not on MediCal?

    You may be salaried, but salaries can be slashed depending on overall reimbursement from health insurance companies.

    Are your patients who have no insurance 100% write offs?

    You may not be in a bad spot. Just not living the luxury lifestyle u are currently used to. And seeing more patients for less$$$



    1) We see patients in the motion picture industry. We do not accept medical
    ( there are several reasons) we could not restrict to only industry guild members if we took medical. We would have to take everyone.
    The mission of the orginazation is for Industry healthcare, as the guild members have trouble seeing doctors because of schedules.
    Unemployed and under-insured can be seen for zero cost, we are a nonprofit charity.
    FYI very few if any doctors take medical. As it is a bankrupting procedure. Since they pay less than the operating costs it takes to see a patient.
    So there is a vacuum of medical providers.
    Medical is not the magical insurance that its pumped up to be.

    Luxury lifestyle. Hardly. as per rentmen you make more per hour than I do. How about that....Cat

    I still have 150k in medical school loans 14 years out. how about that smartass

    stick to rentmen



    To answer ART_DECO, who has his honorary degree in Medicine as well.

    The doctors working today came to work in a honda, toyota prius and I have an Acura.

    we work between 50-70 hours a week. 10% of those hours are unpaid overtime we do to deal with the mounting paperwork and crap we have to do to just get our patients what they need.

    I guess i could do Botox on the weekends, But I am involved in HIV research with is completely a volunteer position.

    http://benbrownmd.wordpress.com/



    Im not clear on who is paying for the services rendered? Does the SAG pay 100%? Are the patients 100% cash paying? Or do you accept private health insurance?

    Are you invested in other entities like Imaging and Diagnostic centers, pharmacies, rehab facilities, surgery centers that you refer your patients to.

    I know alot of MDs and dentists including some in my own family. Most would lead u to believe they are broke as hell while they drive away in their brand new bentley.

    And the 150k in student loans is your fault. Rentment was an option for you too b4, during and after med school.
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    Jun 29, 2012 10:16 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    musclmed said
    catfish5 said
    musclmed said
    realifedad said
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.


    Im not clear on who is paying for the services rendered? Does the SAG pay 100%? Are the patients 100% cash paying? Or do you accept private health insurance?

    Are you invested in other entities like Imaging and Diagnostic centers, pharmacies, rehab facilities, surgery centers that you refer your patients to.

    I know alot of MDs and dentists including some in my own family. Most would lead u to believe they are broke as hell while they drive away in their brand new bentley.

    And the 150k in student loans is your fault. Rentment was an option for you too b4, during and after med school.



    Im not clear on who is paying for the services rendered? Does the SAG pay 100%? Are the patients 100% cash paying? Or do you accept private health insurance?

    private insurance and guild insurance SAG WGA, MPI DGA but only for people in the industry

    some are cash pay, but are discounted based on income and eligibility
    I do not own any medical facilities.
    I also work in dialysis units , but do not own any. Locally only a few nephro's do.
    I have a 2005 acura tl


    I am confused , the 150k ( my fault yes) well that sort of flies in your face of argument of taking advantage of poor people without insurance.

    again, maybe read this http://benbrownmd.wordpress.com/
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    Eeep! Cranky, let's hope not!
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    Jun 29, 2012 10:28 PM GMT
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.

    The court rejected the commerce clause argument. Future social engineering through this dreamed up Congressional power is now closed for the time being.

    Now the Health Care plan is a tax and can be repealed by a simple majority come 2013.

    So your dreams of people leaving are just dreams. This has galvanized the groups against the plan.


    That seems unlikely since Democrats will have the majority. But even in the off-chance Republicans maintain control, President Obama will veto their efforts. And I have no doubt it will be President Obama, since Romney is not poised to win.
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    Jun 29, 2012 10:31 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    catfish5 said
    musclmed said
    catfish5 said
    musclmed said
    realifedad said
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.


    Im not clear on who is paying for the services rendered? Does the SAG pay 100%? Are the patients 100% cash paying? Or do you accept private health insurance?

    Are you invested in other entities like Imaging and Diagnostic centers, pharmacies, rehab facilities, surgery centers that you refer your patients to.

    I know alot of MDs and dentists including some in my own family. Most would lead u to believe they are broke as hell while they drive away in their brand new bentley.

    And the 150k in student loans is your fault. Rentment was an option for you too b4, during and after med school.



    Im not clear on who is paying for the services rendered? Does the SAG pay 100%? Are the patients 100% cash paying? Or do you accept private health insurance?

    private insurance and guild insurance SAG WGA, MPI DGA but only for people in the industry

    some are cash pay, but are discounted based on income and eligibility
    I do not own any medical facilities.
    I also work in dialysis units , but do not own any. Locally only a few nephro's do.
    I have a 2005 acura tl


    I am confused , the 150k ( my fault yes) well that sort of flies in your face of argument of taking advantage of poor people without insurance.

    again, maybe read this http://benbrownmd.wordpress.com/


    I dont believe you are being completely forthcoming on how u derive your income. Nor do i expect you to be. But in theory if what u say is true, you have a horrible business mind.

    And yes. The 150k debt from student loans you have is your fault. Like i said, rentmen was always an option for u b4, during, and after med school to pay back your loans.
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    Jun 29, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    musclmed said
    catfish5 said
    musclmed said
    catfish5 said
    musclmed said
    realifedad said
    musclmed saidthe ruling is a blessing.



    again, maybe read this http://benbrownmd.wordpress.com/


    I dont believe you are being completely forthcoming on how u derive your income. Nor do i expect you to be. But in theory if what u say is true, you have a horrible business mind.

    And yes. The 150k debt from student loans you have is your fault. Like i said, rentmen was always an option for u b4, during, and after med school to pay back your loans.


    Hysterical bash doctors for taking advantage of the system,
    then blame me for not doing it because of deep moral issues.( HORRIBLE BUISNESS MIND)
    That part i find hilarious.

    Is it possible someone would rather help people than make alot of money?

    I never told you what my income was. But our doctors hourly make 90-115 dollars an hour.

    As for rentmen, if I was not going to self refer and "cheat the system" why would I be so inclined to rent out my body?

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    1) We see patients in the motion picture industry. We do not accept medical
    ( there are several reasons) we could not restrict to only industry guild members if we took medical. We would have to take everyone.
    The mission of the orginazation is for Industry healthcare, as the guild members have trouble seeing doctors because of schedules.
    Unemployed and under-insured can be seen for zero cost, we are a nonprofit charity.
    FYI very few if any doctors take medical. As it is a bankrupting procedure. Since they pay less than the operating costs it takes to see a patient.
    So there is a vacuum of medical providers.
    Medical is not the magical insurance that its pumped up to be.





    you dont accept medical? I thought you were a 'doctor'.... aren't a large percentage of 'doctors' in the 'medical' field?
    I find it surprising that you failed at basic grammar and communication writing skills.

    "Medical" is one word with a meaning completely different than 'Medi-Cal', which is another completely different entity.icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    And you want us to believe you have any idea as to what you are talking about? ooooooooooooookayicon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 29, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
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    musclmed said


    1) We see patients in the motion picture industry. We do not accept medical
    ( there are several reasons) we could not restrict to only industry guild members if we took medical. We would have to take everyone.
    The mission of the orginazation is for Industry healthcare, as the guild members have trouble seeing doctors because of schedules.
    Unemployed and under-insured can be seen for zero cost, we are a nonprofit charity.
    FYI very few if any doctors take medical. As it is a bankrupting procedure. Since they pay less than the operating costs it takes to see a patient.
    So there is a vacuum of medical providers.
    Medical is not the magical insurance that its pumped up to be.





    you dont accept medical? I thought you were a 'doctor'.... aren't a large percentage of 'doctors' in the 'medical' field?
    I find it surprising that you failed at basic grammar and communication writing skills.

    "Medical" is one word with a meaning completely different than 'Medi-Cal', which is another completely different entity.icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    And you want us to believe you have any idea as to what you are talking about? ooooooooooooookayicon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif[/quote


    I dont want you to believe anything.
    Keep up with your delusions.

    I have zero to prove to you.