My fellow Americans, perhaps a jolt is needed...

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    Jul 02, 2012 9:21 AM GMT
    Beginning scene of the new HBO series The Newsroom explaining why "America's Not the Greatest Country Any Longer"...



    ... to inspire us to be better that we currently are today.
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    Jul 02, 2012 10:05 AM GMT
    Amen and so powerfully true. But there are those who do want to take America back to greatness; but the liberals want to stop them.

    I would not entertain giving my life up in Oz for a life in America; yes because we too have freedoms; and in many ways a qulity of life many Americans are looking for. Many risk their lives to cue jump and get here illegally on leaking boats.
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    Jul 02, 2012 10:17 AM GMT
    Actually, the world's most talked about democratic republic is still the greatest country in the world -- the most beloved, the most feared, the most important, and the most respected -- if for nothing else than the existence of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

    Gallup just did a worldwide survey asking "Which country would you most like to migrate to?" Guess which country was most named. Oh, that's right, the United States, with 23% of the vote. What was the next choice? The United Kingdom...with 7%.

    It's not even close.

    But if you're down on America, just think of it as "The Least Worst Country in the World." Or don't. Either way, we don't really give a crap.
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    Jul 02, 2012 10:32 AM GMT
    Damn you I was meaning to make a topic about this for the politickers. As someone who is totally bored when he hears democrat or republican or GOP (WeverTF that is), I actually am watching the first episode.
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    Jul 02, 2012 3:31 PM GMT
    TerraFirma saidBeginning scene of the new HBO series The Newsroom explaining why "America's Not the Greatest Country Any Longer"...



    ... to inspire us to be better that we currently are today.





    Aaron Sorkin and Jeff Daniels should just start writing their Emmy speeches now. "The Newsroom" is brilliant television.
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    Jul 02, 2012 4:30 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidActually, the world's most talked about democratic republic is still the greatest country in the world -- the most beloved, the most feared, the most important, and the most respected -- if for nothing else than the existence of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

    Gallup just did a worldwide survey asking "Which country would you most like to migrate to?" Guess which country was most named. Oh, that's right, the United States, with 23% of the vote. What was the next choice? The United Kingdom...with 7%.

    It's not even close.

    But if you're down on America, just think of it as "The Least Worst Country in the World." Or don't. Either way, we don't really give a crap.





    And your last sentence states the whole problem in a nutshell !!



    Americans are for all intents and purposes 'isolated' from the rest of the world and the results of US Military Interventionism that has ruined US credibility and its 'moral high ground'. Thanks to George Bush, his Neo Con War Hawks and the continued problems brought to us by the Military Industrial Complex.
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    Jul 02, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
    realifedad said

    And your last sentence states the whole problem in a nutshell !!

    Americans are for all intents and purposes 'isolated' from the rest of the world and the results of US Military Interventionism that has ruined US credibility and its 'moral high ground'. Thanks to George Bush, his Neo Con War Hawks and the continued problems brought to us by the Military Industrial Complex.


    Isolated from the world except that the American taxpayer gives more aid to the rest of the world than the citizens of ANY other country -- and once again, it's not even close. Isolated except that America is the world's biggest melting pot, and takes in more immigrants from more different countries and cultures than any other country.

    Sorry that facts keep getting in the way of your America Derangement Syndrome, dude, but facts still matter.
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    Jul 02, 2012 10:02 PM GMT
    I haven't seen the show in question, so I may be off base, but "But if you're down on America, just think of it as "The Least Worst Country in the World." Or don't. Either way, we don't really give a crap' strikes me as profoundly defeated and defeatist - if I understand it correctly.

    Are you implying that the US is beyond criticism? That there aren't large and important things that need re-examination and/or fixing?

    When I was you it was "America - love it or leave it" - which was pretty stupid. if you love it, you fix it. And i do not think "least worst" is much to brag about. How about we work for something far better than that?
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    Jul 02, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
    A good jolt for the USicon_question.gif How about a good, strong earthquake for the southern states that will jolt some long overdue common sense into the brains of the politicians on the state, county and local levels especially the conservative GOP southern politicians.
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    Jul 02, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
    tazzari saidI haven't seen the show in question, so I may be off base, but "But if you're down on America, just think of it as "The Least Worst Country in the World." Or don't. Either way, we don't really give a crap' strikes me as profoundly defeated and defeatist - if I understand it correctly.

    Are you implying that the US is beyond criticism? That there aren't large and important things that need re-examination and/or fixing?

    When I was you it was "America - love it or leave it" - which was pretty stupid. if you love it, you fix it. And i do not think "least worst" is much to brag about. How about we work for something far better than that?


    I'm not implying anything. I think what I said is pretty blunt.

    I happen to think my mother is a great person, the greatest mother in the world. Is she perfect, no? Is she flawed, yes? I still believe she is the world's greatest mom. Do I care if others disagree? Not really, and as a matter of fact, I couldn't possibly care less.

    Replace "mother" with "country" and you'll get my drift -- except I have more evidence to back up the claims about the country.

    America and Americans have contributed too much to world progress (AND have far too much work left to do) to dwell on the constact bitching, complaining, negativity, back-biting, and criticism from America Derangement Syndrome do-nothings at home and abroad.

    Far from me implying that America is beyond criticism, my statement indicates the exact opposite: every nation is flawed and makes mistakes. So what? The United States has done quite well on balance, especially compared to the rest of the world. Those who cannot see that have a personal problem; their negativity is not going to stop this nation or its people from working for a better America and a better world world, whatever mistakes are made along the way.

    As far as the "least worst" being nothing to brag about, I beg to differ on that point alone (a convict in jail for tax fraud certainly has more to brag about than a convict in jail for molesting a 3 year-old), but I don't even believe that: I do think America is the world's greatest nation. But for those who DON'T or who think the USA is the best of a bad lot -- more power to 'em but I'm sure the rest of us don't care. *shrug*