Woodward and Bernstein: 40 years after Watergate, Nixon was far worse than we thought

  • tokugawa

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    Jul 04, 2012 12:10 AM GMT
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    "4. The war on justice

    "The arrest of the Watergate burglars set in motion Nixon’s fourth war, against the American system of justice. It was a war of lies and hush money, a conspiracy that became necessary to conceal the roles of top officials and to hide the president’s campaign of illegal espionage and political sabotage, including the covert operations that Mitchell described as “the White House horrors” during the Watergate hearings: the Huston Plan, the Plumbers, the Ellsberg break-in, Liddy’s Gemstone plan and the proposed break-in at Brookings.

    "In a June 23, 1972, tape recording, six days after the arrests at the Watergate, Haldeman warned Nixon that “on the investigation, you know, the Democratic break-in thing, we’re back in the problem area, because the FBI is not under control . . . their investigation is now leading into some productive areas, because they’ve been able to trace the money.”

    "Haldeman said Mitchell had come up with a plan for the CIA to claim that national security secrets would be compromised if the FBI did not halt its Watergate investigation.

    "Nixon approved the scheme and ordered Haldeman to call in CIA Director Richard Helms and his deputy Vernon Walters. “Play it tough,” the president directed. “That’s the way they play it, and that’s the way we are going to play it.”

    "The contents of the tape were made public on Aug. 5, 1974. Four days later, Nixon resigned."

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    Full story: http://tinyurl.com/brx35o8
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    Jul 04, 2012 1:05 AM GMT
    I agree, things were much worse than we were told.

    But I believe that when the truth is finally let out about the lies told by BUSH/CHENEY about the 9-11 event to substantiate the lead up to war, their covering up their real motives for outing Plame in promoting that war and many other lies contrived to cover up facts about those totally unecessary wars, that the NIXON era will look like a cake walk.
  • NJVetteGuy77

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    Oct 08, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    How did I miss this post? As someone has studied the Nixon presidency since I was in grade school, as someone who has pored over the released transcripts and heard the taped conversations numerous times over the years, I love how only certain excerpts are used in this article. Some of these are totally taken out of context, of course. The article mentions Donald Segretti, a political prankster. Unfortunately, there is no mention of Dick Tuck, one of the Democrat's most famous prankers. It also makes mention of the Huston Plan, which was ultimately shut off before it even began. Again, unfortunately there was no mention of the "Operation Chaos", which was instituted during the LBJ administration. The fact is, Nixon carried on the way his predecessors did. RFK was successful in getting the FBI to tone down its investigation into Bobby Baker. This investigating would ultimately have led to the fact that JFK slept with Ellen Rometsch, an alleged East German Communist Spy. This was around the time that the Profumo scandal destroyed the McMillan government in Great Britain. RFK was worried that this would damage his brother's presidency. The quid pro quo for Hoover's assistance was the authorization by RFK, the attorney general, for certain wiretaps, in particular Martin Luther King, Jr. Bugging the Watergate complex? It was no secret that Nixon's campaign plane was bugged by LBJ during the 1968 campaign. Hell, LBJ even bugged his own convention in 1964. Of course, all this information did not come out until years later, so when this Watergate 'scandal' blew up in early 1973, most people only thought the Nixon administration was capable of dirty dealings. Does the fact that Nixon did what his predecessors did make it right? No. He was carrying on the way those before him had. Nixon was a good president, certainly my favorite, flawed as they all are/were. He did do great things for this country. He should have come out in front of the story, he had the election sewn up from the outset. He won in a landslide and his popularity was so strong in early 1973 (approval rating of 67%), that he could have said "Watergate? Mea culpa" and withstood the storm. Unfortunately after January and the Gray FBI confirmation hearings in February, events took a course of their own. Henry Kissinger once said that history would look more kindly upon Nixon than his contemporaries did. I only hope he is right.
  • NJVetteGuy77

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    Oct 08, 2012 1:23 AM GMT
    I wouldn't call it wrong. We just see things differently, and that's ok. I love debating this stuff, and I am glad that you did not use my age against me, as others have. This is something I am passionate about, and I have studied this man and his life since I was in grade school. Again, his predecessors are guilty of so many of these same offenses that I just can't understand it all. It has been written that JFK used the IRS against his enemies. An example? Nixon himself was audited by the IRS in 1961, after the publication of "Six Crises". There was some small vindication of the Nixon administration when some of the malfeasance of prior administrations was uncovered during the Senate Church Hearings. Was Nixon paranoid? Absolutely. Most people who get burned bad enough usually are paranoid. The funds crisis of 1952, the election of 1960, both very bad experiences for him. Once Watergate had been blown all out of proportion, Pat could not understand why there weren't such vigorous investigations into the times that Nixon's campaign offices had been broken into or vandalized. His relations with the press were never really cordial. Only a few weeks into his administration, he had written on one of his daily news summaries in response to favorable press he was receiving that basically the press was just waiting to destroy him. He was correct on that.
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    Oct 08, 2012 9:28 AM GMT
    NJVetteGuy77:How did I miss this post? As someone has studied the Nixon presidency since I was in grade school, as someone who has pored over the released transcripts and heard the taped conversations numerous times over the years, I love how only certain excerpts are used in this article...

    jockfever: Your informed comments help balance any discussion of Nixon.

    Libs are still obsessed with destroying Nixon. They are obsessed with destroying a long list of people.

    No one died as a result of Watergate and the perpetrators were punished.

    I'm not a big fan of Nixon, but I'm amazed at how the Left excuses real evil done by their own guys, e.g., LBJ and BJ Clinton.

    If Clinton is judged solely by the economic conditions during his presidency, he gets high marks.

    Otherwise, his domestic and foreign policies were disasters.

    He set the stage for 9/11 and the economic crisis.

    No other president used ten federal agencies to force lenders to issue mortgages to those with no hope of re-paying them.

    In return for campaign contributions from China he had Loral fix the Chinese missile systems, which couldn't shoot straight.

    Under Clinton's watch, the designs of modern nuclear warheads were stolen by China. We now have Chinese nuclear missiles pointed at American cities. Chinese nuclear weapons will one day probably play a role in killing millions of people.

    And yet Libs honor BJ Clinton, evil pervert, as a statesman, and a key-note speaker.

    Pass the barf bag.
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    Oct 08, 2012 9:50 AM GMT
    realifedad said I agree, things were much worse than we were told.

    But I believe that when the truth is finally let out about the lies told by BUSH/CHENEY about the 9-11 event to substantiate the lead up to war, their covering up their real motives for outing Plame in promoting that war and many other lies contrived to cover up facts about those totally unecessary wars, that the NIXON era will look like a cake walk.


    Agreed.
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    Oct 08, 2012 10:29 AM GMT
    Richard Nixon had one of the most effective foreign policies of any president we've had in the last 100 years. Nixon opened China to the US 1972, which accelerated the diverging interests between China and the USSR. By the time of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, the Chinese were producing weapons and ammunition, under a contract with the CIA, for the Mujahideen. Additionally, they were selling this equipment at cost. Further, they were harboring Afghan fighters and setting up training camps within China in order to defeat the Soviets.