July 4th in the mind of an immigrant

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    Jul 04, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    First , Happy Independance Day to you all !!

    I consider myself an immigrant as i am an Aussie working in the U.S for 20 years , and splitting my time between the 2 countries (i own 1 home in each , and paid income and property taxes in each as well ) .
    As a matter of fact , i have citizenship with 3 countries " , i am Australian thru birth , French ( my parents were French , they immigrated to Australila in 1950 before i was born and became Australians few years later) , and i have also the U.S citizenship thru marriage ( my ex-wife has got Australian citizenship thru our marriage as well )
    I really enjoy celebrating Independance day but i have had some people telling me that i should not , i do love America and think i am more of a patriot than some of the American people i have met in the last 20 years , and i do love your country . Australia is and will always be my favorite home because , this is the country where my family and childhood friends live , and of course there are all a big part of my life .
    Do you think it is wrong for an immigrant to celebrate the 4th of July holiday ?
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    Jul 04, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
    neffa saidDo you think it is wrong for an immigrant to celebrate the 4th of July holiday ?
    About as wrong as me celebrating Cinco De Mayo.
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    Jul 04, 2012 6:23 PM GMT
    In one of the great American traditions; Fuck what people think.

    Enjoy your 4th and plead the 5th.
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    Jul 04, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
    neffa saidDo you think it is wrong for an immigrant to celebrate the 4th of July holiday ?



    In a country of immigrants? No, I don't think it's wrong.

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    Jul 04, 2012 6:51 PM GMT
    neffa said
    Do you think it is wrong for an immigrant to celebrate the 4th of July holiday ?


    We're celebrating it in Melbourne nightclubs: Free hotdogs and $6 cowboy shots icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 04, 2012 8:20 PM GMT
    LOL! You're a US CITIZEN! How exactly does that disqualify you from celebrating Independence Day? I like to think anyone legally visiting or residing here, regardless of citizenship, shouldn't hesitate to enjoy the day if it interests them. Fuck what other people say. There are plenty of people, citizens and non-citizens, who simply use today as a day off work and excuse to party regardless of the holiday's actual significance.
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    Jul 04, 2012 8:43 PM GMT
    I'm a US citizen and I don't celebrate the 4th. But I became a US citizen when I was 16, and have double citizenship with Mexico. I kind of don't feel like I belong to either country.
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    Jul 04, 2012 9:31 PM GMT
    This pretty much applies to 98% of Americans I'd say icon_wink.gif

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    Jul 04, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidI'm a US citizen and I don't celebrate the 4th. But I became a US citizen when I was 16, and have double citizenship with Mexico. I kind of don't feel like I belong to either country.


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    Jul 04, 2012 10:41 PM GMT
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    neffa saidDo you think it is wrong for an immigrant to celebrate the 4th of July holiday ?
    About as wrong as me celebrating Cinco De Mayo.

    As long as i know , you are not a Mexican citizen . So it wouldn't make any sense mate , if you were celebrating Cinco de Mayo
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    Jul 04, 2012 10:42 PM GMT
    neffa said
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    neffa saidDo you think it is wrong for an immigrant to celebrate the 4th of July holiday ?
    About as wrong as me celebrating Cinco De Mayo.

    As long as i know , you are not a Mexican citizen . So it wouldn't make any sense mate , if you were celebrating Cinco de Mayo


    He only does it because of the Tequila... or whatever other booze they are pushing on any given day.
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    Jul 04, 2012 10:47 PM GMT
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    neffa said
    Do you think it is wrong for an immigrant to celebrate the 4th of July holiday ?


    We're celebrating it in Melbourne nightclubs: Free hotdogs and $6 cowboy shots >Actually i am in my hometown of Townsvi
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    Jul 05, 2012 2:58 AM GMT
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    Jul 05, 2012 3:39 PM GMT
    neffa saidDo you think it is wrong for an immigrant to celebrate the 4th of July holiday?

    Not wrong, just puzzling. WHY?

    The US is in decline, thanks to radical political conservatism and militant Christian fundamentalism. The US has no future, already eclipsed by China economically, our industry once our greatest strength is nearly gone, and soon to lose our military superiority, as well.

    Once those are lost, what will we be? A has-been nation reduced to third-world status, as we already are in terms of education, health care, social equality, and democratic processes.

    Empires fall, and once the British dominated the world. And now our own turn is over. It is the age of China, which ironically US Republicans nurtured and still feed, seeking advantages for their corporate benefactors, and forgetting the US people they're supposed to serve.

    So as the US crumbles I question your fondness for this country. Many of us here are looking for our refuge, it's what most of our gay friends talk about. We expect Obama to lose, Republicans to control both Houses of Congress, an anti-gay US Constitutional amendment to pass in 2013. All cheered by the RJ conservaposse here, as they've already indicated. You can guess their motives, I've already expressed mine.

    So it's rather your Australia we look to, and Canada, and other places where freedom still exists. But certainly not to the fascist US, quickly becoming a footnote in history.
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    Jul 06, 2012 9:21 AM GMT
    Even I was part of a parade for independence day a few years ago in the states

    AND IM BRITISH!!!