Water anyone?

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    Aug 04, 2008 8:54 AM GMT
    Hey guys,

    So how much water do we actually need? There are so many charts out there and different methods. which one is right? I know we are suppose to listen to our bodies and drink. But maybe I am out of sync with my body and I always feel like I am forcing myself to drink water. I only get thirsty during workout and after workouts. But lately I've been experiencing headaches despite decent diet and exercise. I think I might be dehydrated. I eat lots and lots of fruits and vegetables but I guess the water in them is not enough. I only drink like 2-3 cups of water. So how much is too much? and what would be the minimum? Thanks in advance icon_cool.gif
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    Aug 04, 2008 3:10 PM GMT
    I drink water all day long as its hot hot hot here!
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    Aug 04, 2008 3:12 PM GMT
    typically 8 - 8oz glasses is the suggessted amount
    minimum

    2-3 cups?? lol, really?
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    Aug 04, 2008 3:13 PM GMT
    During the day, i dont drink anything except water. I dont know how much I drink but I drink enough to keep me hydrated in these hot summer months.
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    Aug 04, 2008 3:24 PM GMT
    I shoot for 96 ounces of water a day. I can go through an extra 32oz if it's a cardio day.
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    Aug 04, 2008 3:33 PM GMT
    I'm with the poster, I don't drink that much and find it tough to force myself. although I do have coffee (1 - 2 cups), actual water is much less. Even when I bike or workout, I'm just not a water drinking, I try when working out but damn, it's hard to force yourself to drink water.
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    Aug 04, 2008 3:41 PM GMT
    BodyWork4 saidtypically 8 - 8oz glasses is the suggessted amount
    minimum.

    But there isn't much good science to back up the old 8x8 "rule". The average American needs about a liter of water each day to replace water loss. That's about four cups of eight ounces, but we generally get that much out of our solid food. So the prototypical sedentary guy in a temperate climate in good health needs hardly any additional water at all. But we're drinking anyway--an average of about six glasses per day. Other drinks replenish water at roughly the same strength as water itself, except that a cup of coffee is worth only about 3/4 cup of water and alcoholic drinks are negative.

    Of course, we're not prototypical sedentary guys. Vigorous exercise and muscle growth require more water. But it is certainly theoretically possible that drinking 2-3 cups of water might be nutritionally adequate, assuming that (1) you're not running marathons and (2) you're consuming foods and/or other liquids that provide the typical amount of hydration.

    For me, though, I'd rather err on the side of a bit too much hydration. So even if I don't actually require it biologically, I down about seven glasses of water and four glasses of other equivalent drinks each day.
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    Aug 04, 2008 3:45 PM GMT
    I typically go through about 128 - 152 oz of water a day. Yes...I pee like a race horse. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 04, 2008 3:58 PM GMT
    Damn, is that all you guys do is drink? LOL
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    Aug 04, 2008 6:30 PM GMT
    2-3 cups of water seems far too little.

    Do you also drink coffee, tea or soda during the day?
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    Aug 04, 2008 6:33 PM GMT
    I'll stick to about a gallon a day myself
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    Aug 04, 2008 6:43 PM GMT
    Quite easily a gallon sometimes 1 1/2 gallons depending how active I am.
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    Aug 04, 2008 6:47 PM GMT
    I've never really measured the exact amount I consume. I just always have a cold bottle on hand all day and keep refilling it at work when it gets to the halfway point. I even jog every morning with a bottle in my right hand and periodically take sips.
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    Aug 04, 2008 7:01 PM GMT
    lennyTT said2-3 cups of water seems far too little.

    Do you also drink coffee, tea or soda during the day?



    Well even if he did drink soda and tea that would only make the dehydration worse(more so the soda), also inflaming the muscles. As for the amount of water a person should drink 1-2 gallons a day depending on your level of activity/environment.
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    Aug 04, 2008 7:11 PM GMT
    Sportzdog said
    lennyTT said2-3 cups of water seems far too little.
    Do you also drink coffee, tea or soda during the day?

    Well even if he did drink soda and tea that would only make the dehydration worse(more so the soda), also inflaming the muscles. As for the amount of water a person should drink 1-2 gallons a day depending on your level of activity/environment.


    Myth.

    Soda, juice, milk, and almost every drink but alcohol contributes to net hydration. Even caffeinated drinks are significantly net positive for hydration. Of course, the sugar and other chemicals in a lot of those drinks pose other problems.

    Track and field stars like Sportzdog need lots of water. I like it, too. But the science is pretty darn clear now that Americans are generally not anywhere near dehydration even with almost no "pure" water intake. The 8 glasses recommendation went the way of the discredited "food pyramid", though most doctors see it as a harmless habit and so keep their mouths shut when patients proudly extoll how virtuous they are for drinking so much water.

    Two gallons per day in a cool locale like Seattle? Won't hurt you, but that's way more than you "need" unless you are sweating it out for hours every day.
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    Aug 04, 2008 9:18 PM GMT
    lennyTT said2-3 cups of water seems far too little.

    Do you also drink coffee, tea or soda during the day?


    No but I eat alot of watery fruit icon_cool.gif
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    Aug 04, 2008 9:19 PM GMT
    26mileman saidQuite easily a gallon sometimes 1 1/2 gallons depending how active I am.


    Wow thats alot. are you in bathroom all day peeing? icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 05, 2008 1:41 AM GMT
    dancedd said
    26mileman saidQuite easily a gallon sometimes 1 1/2 gallons depending how active I am.


    Wow thats alot. are you in bathroom all day peeing? icon_eek.gif


    Every hour.icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 05, 2008 1:59 AM GMT
    Im drinking 3 gallons water a day now doing that water manipulation thing...peeing like a pregnant racehorse but hopefully itll be worth it.

    http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1957070
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    Aug 05, 2008 2:43 AM GMT
    Sportzdog said
    lennyTT said2-3 cups of water seems far too little.

    Do you also drink coffee, tea or soda during the day?



    Well even if he did drink soda and tea that would only make the dehydration worse(more so the soda), also inflaming the muscles. As for the amount of water a person should drink 1-2 gallons a day depending on your level of activity/environment.




    My best friend hardly ever drinks water and actually lives on coca-cola. I don't think it healthy and I would never do it, but he seems to be living well so far. Time would tell the long term consequences of that though.

    I live in the tropics and get by well with 1/2 a gallon a day. I have a friend from Ireland who collapses from dehydration every time he visits the caribbean! When he visits he has to consume at least 2-3 times the amount of water that i would normally drink in a day just to stay hydrated.
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    Aug 05, 2008 3:49 AM GMT
    Every morning, I brew a teaspoon of loose tea and two teaspoons of yerba mate in a quart of hot water, pour off the tea after a few minutes, and brew the leaves with another quart of hot water for "iced tea" (that I actually drink at room temp.) That's the minimum amount I drink in a day, and I typically drink a quart of plain purified water on top of that.
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    Aug 05, 2008 4:07 AM GMT
    Chuy2010 saidIm drinking 3 gallons water a day now doing that water manipulation thing...peeing like a pregnant racehorse but hopefully itll be worth it.

    http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1957070


    Holly shit. thats more than the other guy mentioned earlier. 3 gallons is about 48 cups. Don't drown! icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 05, 2008 4:10 AM GMT

    Well today I drank 5 glasses of water. And it felt like I was drowning inside. icon_evil.gif

    But the good thing is that I didn't have as many headaches. so it looks like I was suffering from dehydration from last week.

    But it still feels very forced way of consuming it. I can't tell if I am fully hydrated from urine. The reason is because I take B-vitamins and it makes my urine always yellow color.

    So I'll keep drinking 5 glasses of water and see if there are anymore better changes icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 05, 2008 4:19 AM GMT
    The 8 8 oz glasses a day is indeed a myth. It came from a misreporting of a study about how much moisture a typical person needed in his diet, but that moisture includes what you get in the food you eat, assuming you're not eating primarily dehydrated stuff.

    "Distilled water isn't the best thing to drink as it has a negative charge and can actually pull nutrients from your body."

    If water is distilled properly, no, it doesn't have a negative charge. It has no net charge at all (though it does have a strong dipole moment). Any water in high enough concentrations will pull nutrients from the body by simple diffusion and osmosis.

    Personally, I drink a huge amount of water, but that's not a health thing so much as it is that I feel dehydrated when I don't drink a ton of water. I'm easily up in the gallon a day range of just water, not counting whatever juices and protein shakes and whatnot I drink. But it's not something I recommend unless you feel thirsty or dehydrated. The headaches, though, could be a sign of dehydration. My major signs are:

    Headache
    Dry throat
    My eyes itching followed by excessive tear formation.

    All three tend to go away quickly when I drink water, so I do so.
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    Aug 05, 2008 4:40 AM GMT
    I remember hearing from doctors that ideally one should drink, daily, 1 liter = 33 oz = 0.25 gallon of water per day.
    This would be an ideal minimum... water rebalances the cells in your body so it will only do you good if you drink more.
    (And then the more you sweat on a workout session, the more water you should drink afterwards, besides that recommended minimum)