I kissed a girl, and I liked it.

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    Aug 04, 2008 12:38 PM GMT
    I work out at a university gym where they run day camps in the summer. I was just leaving after a work out when this group of camp girls (I think there were maybe 3 boys in the group) passes me in the hallway. The song, "I kissed a girl" by Katy Perry was playing over the PA system. These girls were probably somewhere between the ages of 7 and 10, but they're all traipsing down the hall singing, "I kissed a girl and I liked it..." I don't know the words to this song, but they knew it all, chorus and verse. The counsellor was busting a gut and asked them, "Do you know what this song means?" but the kids didn't even care, or answer, they just kept right on singing. The whole song. Now I can't hear this song without thinking of a summer of tiny girls shreiking the lyrics, ha ha.

    Maybe we _are_ just a generation away from not caring about it anymore.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 04, 2008 12:45 PM GMT
    Well the question is... was the 2nd verse, "I kissed a boy and liked it"???
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    Aug 04, 2008 12:49 PM GMT
    Lol, no. It's not. It does mention a boyfriend though. I initially cut and pasted the lyrics from lyriczz.com, but it made the post unwieldly.

    I Kissed A Girl
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    Aug 04, 2008 12:55 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidWell the question is... was the 2nd verse, "I kissed a boy and liked it"???

    of course not
    that's an outrage
    how dare you
    that's unheard of
    the horror
    corrupting kids with your homosexical agenda
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    Once again - one more way gays are putdown and lesbians have leverage.

    Lesbian's no one cares about. Many atraight guys love lesbian action porn. Lots of straight girls can sit on each others laps without there being a severe moral outrage. Females still get the okay to express themselves without much backlash. Yes there were protests and uproars about it... but nowhere near as bad as a song that has gay themes in it

    Gay's everyone protests against. Let that song be sung by a guy that said, "I kissed a boy and I liked it."
    Then again, that's another post.
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    Aug 04, 2008 1:23 PM GMT
    Heres the gay remix lol enjoy!





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    Aug 04, 2008 1:53 PM GMT
    This girl was created by a record company.

    They are giving her an "edge" by making her sing about this subject matter. Her album also contains a lot of gay baiting (or so I hear).

    She is a despicable fame hussy who would do anything to sell a few albums. There is no Kate Perry, she is completely a product. SHE USED TO BE A CHRISTIAN SINGER FOR SWEET JESUS SAKE (under the name Katy Hudson).

    So I wouldn't say we are just one generation away from caring about it anymore -- instead they are treating it like a fad or a passing phase. Or something that is marketable. I dunno. Maybe this is a sign of progression. A twisted sign at that.

    Many girls feign lesbianism because boys like it. It's a cute thing to do.

    It's all kind of exhausting really. This is why I don't listen to modern pop music, maybe.







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    Aug 04, 2008 2:35 PM GMT
    Ha, I had no idea she used to be a Christian singer. That's ironically awesome.

    I don't really keep up with the current music stuff--it's just what I hear playing over the PA system. I had to look up who sang the song, and now they're playing it in the bars a lot.

    I suspect these kids don't know what they're singing at all, and perhaps that is kind of twisted--they're so media-washed that they'll sheep their way to wherever they're told, regardless of content.

    I never thought of it that way.
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    Aug 04, 2008 2:44 PM GMT
    Wasn't she a Christian singer because her father was a preacher? Doesn't she write her own music? I'm not a huge fan or anything but she doesn't seem like that big of a fake product to me.
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    Aug 04, 2008 3:15 PM GMT
    Georgy Porgy started it! icon_razz.gif
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 04, 2008 3:50 PM GMT
    I love the song...it's fun, frothy summer fare...and I love the taste of cherry chapstick...so there! icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 04, 2008 4:01 PM GMT
    I enjoy her CD. Hot 'n Cold will hopefully be her next single off the album its catchy.

    I don't think the song is meant to be taken to seriously. Basically she gets wasted and makes out with a girl at a bar kind of likes it and hopes her bf's not going to be pissed about it..

    It's a simple carefree song. She's kinda like Avril with an uppity beat and NOT a complete bitch.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 04, 2008 4:06 PM GMT
    Total guilty pleasure song for me. Hated it the first time, but the second time I heard it I was rofling my waffles (no, I do not know what that means).

    And why should it really matter if she's a record label whore? If you enjoy the end product, the fact that she's just spewing lyrics from a corporate suit shouldn't change that.

    Sean_85 saidShe's kinda like Avril with an uppity beat and NOT a complete bitch.icon_biggrin.gif

    Hey! No hating on Avril. The lyrics to her song "Hot" are just about as gay as this song icon_wink.gif.
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    Aug 04, 2008 4:08 PM GMT
    I think this review from allmusic.com expands upon what I'm trying to say pretty nicely:

    Listening to Katy Perry's litany of belched alphabets, fruity boyfriends, Vegas hangovers, and lesbian lip-locks on her debut, One of the Boys, it's easy to assume she'll do anything for attention, and a close read of her history proves that suspicion true. Prior to her transformation into a teen tart, Perry was a Christian singer operating under the name Katy Hudson -- an appellation a little bit too close to Kate Hudson, so she swapped last names and started working with big-name producer after big-name producer, cutting sessions with Glen Ballard and then the Matrix. That was enough to get buzz touting her as a next big thing in 2004, but not enough to actually get a record into the stores, a nicety that often proves invaluable for wannabe pop stars. Given this long line of botched starts, maybe it makes sense that the 24-year-old trollop is singing with the desperation of a fading burlesque star twice her age, yet Perry's shameless pandering on One of the Boys is startling, particularly as it comes in the form of some ungodly hybrid of Alanis Morissette's caterwauling and the cold calculation of Britney Spears in her prime. This fusion is no accident, as Perry works once again with Ballard, the producer behind Alanis' breakthrough Jagged Little Pill, and Max Martin, the writer/producer of "Baby One More Time" -- and that's just for starters! She also brings aboard Desmond Child to give "Waking Up in Vegas" an anonymous anthemic pulse, Dave Stewart to give "I'm Still Breathing" a Euro sheen, and Butch Walker to amp up the amplifiers, giving her a different sound for every imaginable demographic.

    All the pros give One of the Boys a cross-platform appeal, but there's little question that its revolting personality is all down to Katy Perry, who distills every reprehensible thing about the age of The Hills into one pop album. She disses her boyfriend with gay-baiting; she makes out with a girl and she's doesn't even like girls; she brags to a suitor that he can't afford her, parties till she's face-down in the porcelain, drops brands as if they were weapons, curses casually, and trades under-the-table favors. In short, she's styled herself as a Montag monster. Perry is not untalented -- she writes like an ungarbled Alanis and has an eye for details, as when she tells her emo meterosexual boyfriend to hang himself with his H&M scarf on "Ur So Gay" -- but that only accentuates how her vile wild-child persona is an artifice designed to get her the stardom she craves. Maybe if the music were as trashy as the style, she could get away with it, as it would have a junky thrill, but that's where all the high-thread-count producers actually work against One of the Boys. They flatten everything out, turning the stomping Gary Glitter beat of "I Kissed a Girl" into a leaden stumble and burying Perry's voice underneath Pro Tools overdubs so it all winds up as a faceless wash of sound designed to be placed in TV shows, movie trailers, and malls -- which is of course part of the plan, as this is music designed to be everywhere after Perry's taboo flirtations break down doors. The problem is not with Katy's gender-bending, it's that her heart isn't in it; she's just using it to get her places, so she sinks to crass, craven depths that turn One of the Boys into a grotesque emblem of all the wretched excesses of this decade.
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    Aug 04, 2008 4:09 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said...and I love the taste of cherry chapstick...so there! icon_lol.gif


    Good to know...

    (reapplies cherry chapstick)
  • VinBaltimore

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    Aug 04, 2008 4:19 PM GMT
    FASINATING! Up until this moment I had no idea this wasn't a remake of Jill Sobule's 1995 song "I Kissed a Girl":



    Much the same reaction then as now really. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    I'll give it a listen when I get home. No speakers at work icon_sad.gif
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    Aug 04, 2008 4:22 PM GMT
    allmusic.com writesPerry is not untalented -- she writes like an ungarbled Alanis and has an eye for details, as when she tells her emo meterosexual boyfriend to hang himself with his H&M scarf on "Ur So Gay" -- but that only accentuates how her vile wild-child persona is an artifice designed to get her the stardom she craves. Maybe if the music were as trashy as the style, she could get away with it, as it would have a junky thrill, but that's where all the high-thread-count producers actually work against One of the Boys. They flatten everything out, turning the stomping Gary Glitter beat of "I Kissed a Girl" into a leaden stumble and burying Perry's voice underneath Pro Tools overdubs so it all winds up as a faceless wash of sound designed to be placed in TV shows, movie trailers, and malls -- which is of course part of the plan, as this is music designed to be everywhere after Perry's taboo flirtations break down doors.

    Just about the only part of that review that can even be counted as a music review. Everything else is just irrelevent fluff to stroke the reviewer's ego (and yes, I'm hella guilty of that too). For all that I may think she's a conscious dupe, and for all that I can't stand the vast majority of her music, I find this particular song enjoyable and that's that.
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    Aug 04, 2008 4:23 PM GMT
    Here's Jill Sobule's reaction:
    http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/06/katy-perry.html

    I totally agree with her:
    Jill SobuleSome think it’s more of a Girls Gone Wild thing than anything shocking or empowering to true gay feelings
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    Aug 04, 2008 4:25 PM GMT
    I would hope the latest generation has already arrived at the point where "IT is OK." Sadly, I think the song is more about what is popular and trendy than what is okay and not okay.

    While young women today are generally comfortable with girls being with girls, young men in popular culture still bristle at the thought of two guys being together.

    How straight men's magazines feature two women together? More than you can count. Imagine what would happen if they threw in two men together! A magazine like Penthouse or Hustler would collpase overnight.
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    Aug 04, 2008 4:27 PM GMT
    lean_jock74 saidthey're so media-washed

    That is the BEST term I've ever heard.

    Can I add it to my facebook?
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    Aug 04, 2008 5:08 PM GMT
    Sure, you're welcome to it.
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    Aug 04, 2008 5:13 PM GMT
    Greg0201 saidThis girl was created by a record company.

    They are giving her an "edge" by making her sing about this subject matter. Her album also contains a lot of gay baiting (or so I hear).

    She is a despicable fame hussy who would do anything to sell a few albums. There is no Kate Perry, she is completely a product. SHE USED TO BE A CHRISTIAN SINGER FOR SWEET JESUS SAKE (under the name Katy Hudson).


    So I wouldn't say we are just one generation away from caring about it anymore -- instead they are treating it like a fad or a passing phase. Or something that is marketable. I dunno. Maybe this is a sign of progression. A twisted sign at that.

    Many girls feign lesbianism because boys like it. It's a cute thing to do.

    It's all kind of exhausting really. This is why I don't listen to modern pop music, maybe.



    I think this actually over qualifies her to become the next big gay songstress.
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    Aug 04, 2008 5:18 PM GMT
    This is why I don't listen to gay songstresses, maybe.
  • Bunjamon

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    Aug 04, 2008 5:28 PM GMT
    I must say I really like this song, too.

    The that story with the little girls reminded me of a similar one from a few years ago. When Christia Aguilera did the cover of "Lady Marmalade" with the refrain "Voulez-vouz coucher avec moi ce soir?" (Do you want to sleep with me tonight?). Little girls who definitely did not speak French would be singing it at the top of their lungs and I couldn't help but find it funny and kind of creepy at the same time.
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    Aug 05, 2008 3:33 PM GMT
    Jill Sobule's 'version' (though they are totally different songs, LOL) is way funnier and more genuinely GLBT friendly. icon_wink.gif