Impossibly Close Binary Stars Discovered

  • metta

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    Jul 06, 2012 2:45 PM GMT

    Impossibly Close Binary Stars Discovered


    http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news-Impossible-Binary-Stars-Discovered-070512.aspx
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    Jul 06, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
    There must be some serious repulsive force keeping them from colliding...something stronger than centrifugal.
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    Jul 06, 2012 4:59 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThere must be some serious repulsive force keeping them from colliding...something stronger than centrifugal.


    I'll admit it, it is I who stopping their collision.
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    Jul 06, 2012 5:08 PM GMT
    If we can somehow slingshot around them we can go back in time and figure it all out.
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    Jul 06, 2012 5:14 PM GMT
    smthjock said
    paulflexes saidThere must be some serious repulsive force keeping them from colliding...something stronger than centrifugal.


    I'll admit it, it is I who stopping their collision.


    I was thinking, Newt Gingrich in a thong is the most repulsive force I can think of.icon_razz.gif
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    Jul 06, 2012 5:19 PM GMT
    smthjock said
    paulflexes saidThere must be some serious repulsive force keeping them from colliding...something stronger than centrifugal.


    I'll admit it, it is I who stopping their collision.
    That's because you're hotter than a star.
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    Jul 06, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
    I guess this means it's not impossible than. icon_eek.gif
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    Jul 06, 2012 5:36 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThere must be some serious repulsive force keeping them from colliding...something stronger than centrifugal.


    The repulsive force is called Time. They WILL collide, it just hasn't happened yet. Their orbits are by no means (according to the article) stable.
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    Jul 06, 2012 8:09 PM GMT
    That is amazing, thanks for posting....
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    Jul 06, 2012 8:10 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    paulflexes saidThere must be some serious repulsive force keeping them from colliding...something stronger than centrifugal.


    The repulsive force is called Time. They WILL collide, it just hasn't happened yet. Their orbits are by no means (according to the article) stable.


    Ehm, Time is not a repulsive force.. time is simply a factor in measuring how long it takes for these forces to work... time essentially "does nothing" like space does not really either... however, forces, like gravity, operate IN space and time

    Obviously calculations will have to be made, which will show how they can be so close together.. but its very interesting that they may be emitting extremely violent solar flares and winds which essentially "push" them away from each other much like the wind pushes forward a sailing ship at sea
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    Jul 06, 2012 8:20 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    paulflexes saidThere must be some serious repulsive force keeping them from colliding...something stronger than centrifugal.


    The repulsive force is called Time. They WILL collide, it just hasn't happened yet. Their orbits are by no means (according to the article) stable.
    From what I could gather in the report, they allude that previous models show them colliding shortly after the orbit time is less than five hours; yet these continue to orbit at four hours, and at a distance much closer than what the models predicted.

    They probably will collide eventually, but continued observation is the only way they're going to be able to have any conclusive data.
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    Jul 07, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
    It's an unsung superhero. He or she is doing everything in his/her power to keep them apart, though it means his/her life. Gobbless your selfless heart, Nameless one!
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    Jul 07, 2012 12:39 AM GMT
    Why are crazy drunk straight guys always looking at the stars? Bi anything is always good though, if you bring it over :-)
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    Jul 07, 2012 12:45 AM GMT
    Speaking of astrophysics and scientists though, the actor who is Sheldon on Big Bang Theory has been in a 10 year relationship with a man. Yay. Like we didn't all know?
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    Jul 07, 2012 5:03 PM GMT
    GreenHopper saidTime is not a repulsive force


    Never mind that time is so repulsing that, as the saying goes, it keeps everything from happening at once, but, and here's the scientific proof, just wait 30 years when you no longer attract as many guys because of what time is gonna do to your face and then tell us how time isn't repulsive.

    Time repulses, Perspective pulls it all together.
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    Jul 07, 2012 5:07 PM GMT
    wow you guys took a break from sex to look at something shiny ;)
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    Jul 07, 2012 5:08 PM GMT
    I have no idea what this is all about.
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    Jul 07, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    GreenHopper saidTime is not a repulsive force


    Never mind that time is so repulsing that, as the saying goes, it keeps everything from happening at once, but, and here's the scientific proof, just wait 30 years when you no longer attract as many guys because of what time is gonna do to your face and then tell us how time isn't repulsive.

    Time repulses, Perspective pulls it all together.


    I dont attract guys as it is man, I repel them icon_lol.gif Besides there are no "forces" involved in that type of attraction... no physical ones

    But to be fair, if my looks begin to fade and it stops scaring people off... I guess then time is a force, but rather a force-killer, as it will stop the repelling force my looks seem to have hahaha
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    Jul 08, 2012 2:12 AM GMT
    Normally, for these binary stars to be orbiting so closely, they would have had to be formed so close together that they would have merged and become one star at birth.

    Thus, they must have been formed much further apart from each other to exist at all as separate stars.

    The problem is that to get such a close orbit, the stars must have lost a lot of energy somehow and we don't know how this happened.

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    Jul 08, 2012 9:23 AM GMT
    InsatiableBloom saidI have no idea what this is all about.


    Also, I think this article poorly explains the problem, at least for a popular account.
    I haven't seen any other account, so I'm just going by what I read by the article.

    It isn't that the stars are so close that they will collide, it's that they are too close together to have formed as two separate stars to begin with.

    They are in a perfectly stable (or quasi-stable? over a long time) orbit that doesn't defy any physical laws.

    The problem is how did the system lose so much energy from a much further-away orbit that they are orbiting so closely now.

    That's why there is the suggestion of "apply the brakes to these spinning stars, slowing them down". The stars lose energy, and they go into a lower potential (closer) orbit.
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    Jul 12, 2012 3:23 AM GMT
    GreenHopper saidEhm, Time is not a repulsive force.. time is simply a factor in measuring how long it takes for these forces to work... time essentially "does nothing" like space does not really either...


    Ehm, duh. So from my response you could conclude there isn't a repulsive force keeping them apart, right? Or perhaps you glossed over that in your zeal to correct me.
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    Jul 12, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
    GreenHopper said
    mickeytopogigio said
    paulflexes saidThere must be some serious repulsive force keeping them from colliding...something stronger than centrifugal.


    The repulsive force is called Time. They WILL collide, it just hasn't happened yet. Their orbits are by no means (according to the article) stable.


    Ehm, Time is not a repulsive force.. time is simply a factor in measuring how long it takes for these forces to work... time essentially "does nothing" like space does not really either... however, forces, like gravity, operate IN space and time

    Obviously calculations will have to be made, which will show how they can be so close together.. but its very interesting that they may be emitting extremely violent solar flares and winds which essentially "push" them away from each other much like the wind pushes forward a sailing ship at sea


    No the magnetic interaction isn't repulsive but dissipative.