Awesome lucid dream prior to waking. What are some of yours?

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    Jul 07, 2012 2:18 PM GMT
    I just had to share a dream. I had a "opening up" dream. I'm on the introverted side. I was on a game show like "the amazing race." But this show was about individuals competing in a race with each other as opposed to against each other... and part of the purpose was to display your similarities and greatest strengths which each other and love which would be superior I think to all the reality shows going on. There was a girl that composed a song for someone, a guy whose brother came out to him on the show and the one that was already "out" broke down. I could go on, but it was interesting, I think all the people were parts of me exposing different parts of myself.
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    Jul 08, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
    Were you aware that it was just a dream, and able to control what happened? That's what lucid dreaming is.
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    Jul 08, 2012 12:38 AM GMT
    I had this dream a while ago about a really amazing guy and that we fall in love and the whole world is falling apart and we finally say I love You. It was so surreal that even after I woke up it felt as if I knew the guy. It was on my mind for a long time and I would see someone walking by from the corner of my eye and feel its him.
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    Jul 08, 2012 12:44 AM GMT
    Wish I could remember them all... never even sure I've had lucid dreams... icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 08, 2012 12:53 AM GMT
    yeah I agree with paulflexes. Were you aware and in control of the dream? If not, it wasn't lucid.
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    Jul 08, 2012 1:23 AM GMT
    Use super powers and rape all the hot men as quickly as I can before I wake up. I am a horrible, unstoppable rapist in my dreams.
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    Jul 08, 2012 1:24 AM GMT
    Flying. ALL my lucid dreams so far have involved me being able to fly. icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 08, 2012 1:33 AM GMT
    braddomo saidI just had to share a dream.

    A few times when I've had a particularly vivid dream that seemed important to me, enough that I felt compelled to tell others, the dream became a reality a few days later. You might wanna keep alert to see if it starts unfolding in front of you, because if it happens like mine, I wasn't cognizant for a few minutes that my dream was becoming real.

    I also have lucid dreams. Actually taught myself to have them, when I was around 12. Was having too many unpleasant dreams, so as I was falling asleep I'd keep reminding myself to "pull back" from any bad dream, detaching myself, and control it like I was a movie director, not a participant. Strangely enough it began to work, and I still do it today, backing the dream up to the part where it started to go wrong, then running it forward the way I want.
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    Jul 08, 2012 1:49 AM GMT
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    braddomo saidI just had to share a dream.

    A few times when I've had a particularly vivid dream that seemed important to me, enough that I felt compelled to tell others, the dream became a reality a few days later. You might wanna keep alert to see if it starts unfolding in front of you, because if it happens like mine, I wasn't cognizant for a few minutes that my dream was becoming reality.

    I also have lucid dreams. Actually taught myself to have them, when I was around 12. Was having too many unpleasant dreams, so as I was falling asleep I'd keep reminding myself to "pull back" from any bad dream, detaching myself, and control it like I was a movie director, not a participant. Strangely enough it began to work, and I still do it today, backing the dream up to the part where it started to go wrong, then running it forward the way I want.


    yes, this works for me to. when i was a kid, i climbed and fell off of a lot precipices in my dreams, i just choose not to climb them anymore. i take melatoninm, that might explain this mornings most lucid dream. i was taking off a in twin engine airplane, my Dad was co-pilot, we each had a throttle pushing it forward at the same time. that feeling stayed with me most of the day, that was a good one...
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    Jul 08, 2012 2:25 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidI also have lucid dreams. Actually taught myself to have them...

    yes, this works for me to... [in] this mornings most lucid dream. i was taking off in a twin engine airplane, my Dad was co-pilot, we each had a throttle pushing it forward at the same time. that feeling stayed with me most of the day, that was a good one...

    The best thing about my dreams in recent years is that my partners have been in them, and more recently my late parents. Before my first partner in 2002 I almost never dreamt about anyone I actually knew, not my parents, nor even women or men I'd dated and slept with.

    It stopped again after my first partner died, but resumed with my present partner. I like to tell him next morning what he was doing in my dream, always something pleasant, but rarely sexual. And my late parents show up a lot, too, events often taking place in my childhood home, just doing mundane stuff of no importance, no drama of any kind.

    I'm not sure if any of it means anything, though certainly a change from all the decades before. Maybe it portends my seeing my parents again soon, maybe it just means I love my partner like no other, and I also include my parents in that love. Whatever it is, like you I feel good about it the next day. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 08, 2012 4:55 AM GMT
    I once had a dream not so long ago that I was on American Idol top 10 singing for survival in Latin Week, R&B Week and Pop/Rock/British music week. People love me as a singer and chant my name so LOUD! I think maybe deep down I unconsciously wanted to become a famous Pop Singer. !!!! Someone once told me sometimes your dreams are your true desire/calling. icon_cool.gif
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    Jul 08, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    I've never lucid dreamed; however, I do keep a dream journal and I can remember most of my dreams with ease. They are generally of the "epic" category and they are very vivid. My dreamscape is almost always a dark-to-neutral color palate and often the world around me is apocalyptic in nature (buildings breaking down, fires, chaotic surroundings).


    It's freaking sweet. icon_twisted.gif
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    Jul 08, 2012 6:12 AM GMT
    We can direct our dreams to some degree without being lucid within them. For instance, if you don't like some action or element of a dream, if you are not satisfied with your dream character's behavior, then you can direct your mind to correct the behavior or the situation or the element and then, when you dream again, you might very well view the results of those directions.

    However, if you are not directly participating in your dream, you are not experiencing a lucid dream. You might be having a very vivid dream, you might have been able to preprogram your subconscious mind to some degree as described, but if you are not an active participant within your own dreaming, then you have not yet embued your dream body, your dream character, with consciousness, with your conscious, deliberate will as intact as you experience it while your body is awake.

    Here's how you can tell the difference: If you are watching yourself in the dream as if you might watch yourself on a video or in a movie--even if you can't see yourself in that movie but that you are aware of the actions and feelings and thoughts of your dream character on that movie screen--then you are having a nonlucid dream, regardless of what preprograming you did to affect elements, behaviors, etc. But if you are actively & consciously acting in your dream as if you were in a play, at least as consciously as you are right now in this very moment as you read these words appear as if out of nowhere, which can be very fun to do in a dream, by the way, knowing all the while that your body is asleep and in bed, and not just sitting there at your computer, then you are more likely having a lucid dream.

    Sometimes the dreaming might have some consciousness raised during the dream but subconscious mind remains stronger, distracting the dreamer with dream elements and actions. Sometimes consciousness waivers in and out or just looks out for a moment and then subconsciousness resumes control. But the dreamer can learn to stabilize their own consciousness within the dream and to break the dream character free from subconscious mind.

    Should it occur that you are not sure if you are dreaming, simply do what is not generally possible to do in a nonlucid dream. First look at your hand--actually a method some use early on to stabilize their lucid dreaming. Now, can you put your hand in front of your face in your dream and look at both sides. Try putting your hand through a solid object in the dream. If you can do those types of things at will, then you are experiencing a lucid dream and you will know it is a dream because you will know that you can't put your hand through a table, a wall, whatever, but you did.

    While flying dreams can be hardly at all, somewhat or very lucid, and you can tell the level of lucidity, in part, even by how you experience the flying ie can you feel the wind on the surface of your dream body, can you feel the acceleration, etc., which you might notice you don't normally do in nonlucid dreams. In very lucid dreams, you make not just the decision to fly up or down, but whether you fly at all, just as you make such decisions during all the course of action of the dreaming as you do when your body is awake.

    The more lucid, the more you contol, and not just that you are in control of your dream character, but of the dream elements themselves. You decide not just what door to walk thru. but how many doors appear; whether to go up and down a flight of stairs; what elements in your dream to pick up and examine, etc. The more lucid your dream, the less the script of the play has been written because you have free will within your dreaming. Also, you can destroy your dream entirely while keeping your body asleep and maintaining consciousness, further freeing mind so that you can think and experience consciousness not just without the distractions of the physical world, but also without the distraction of the dream. Lucidity sans dreaming.
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    Jul 08, 2012 6:18 AM GMT
    I just had one this morning! Not sharing what it was. But it was intense icon_twisted.gif
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    Jul 08, 2012 6:29 AM GMT
    I've had a few pretty intense lucid dreams but the most in-control and self awareness I've had have always involved me laying down and resisting going to (what can best be explained) a sleep state but I'm always numb and its so in-the-moment real and my head or mind is so heavy... then when I actually wake up I realize it was a dream...I've had others but they didn't feel as controlled or real as the ones of me laying down lol I'm convinced it has something to do with astral projection icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 08, 2012 2:20 PM GMT
    creme_de_la_creme saidI've had a few pretty intense lucid dreams but the most in-control and self awareness I've had have always involved me laying down and resisting going to (what can best be explained) a sleep state but I'm always numb and its so in-the-moment real and my head or mind is so heavy... then when I actually wake up I realize it was a dream...I've had others but they didn't feel as controlled or real as the ones of me laying down lol I'm convinced it has something to do with astral projection icon_biggrin.gif


    Hard to tell from what you've said what phase of dreaming you might be in. Could be sleep paralysis, could be something else. Describe please some details to your experiences. Any visuals including just nothing, bodily sensations, feelings of electric shocks, vibrations (the feel or sound), grinding sounds or more particularly, a loud pop? The feeling of extreme acceleration? Falling? A tearing apart? If you've specific sensations, are they generally distributed or do you experience them as isolated in specific areas of how you might imagine or experience your dream body?
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    Jul 08, 2012 6:58 PM GMT
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    creme_de_la_creme saidI've had a few pretty intense lucid dreams but the most in-control and self awareness I've had have always involved me laying down and resisting going to (what can best be explained) a sleep state but I'm always numb and its so in-the-moment real and my head or mind is so heavy... then when I actually wake up I realize it was a dream...I've had others but they didn't feel as controlled or real as the ones of me laying down lol I'm convinced it has something to do with astral projection icon_biggrin.gif


    Hard to tell from what you've said what phase of dreaming you might be in. Could be sleep paralysis, could be something else. Describe please some details to your experiences. Any visuals including just nothing, bodily sensations, feelings of electric shocks, vibrations (the feel or sound), grinding sounds or more particularly, a loud pop? The feeling of extreme acceleration? Falling? A tearing apart? If you've specific sensations, are they generally distributed or do you experience them as isolated in specific areas of how you might imagine or experience your dream body?


    I do know what the sleep paralysis stage is, I've had that many times, but what I was talking about above was different. It was different bc of how intense it was...and I'll elaborate...for one, some of these dreams of me laying down I'm not in the actual location I was physically sleeping in and I've revisited certain locations in dreams. Although I can describe this one that really gave me a sense of "okay this is real" I was napping but I didnt know it but I was laying down in my room and my body was numb...I wanted to move (and again my mind felt very heavy so I was almost resisting the heavy feeling) and it took a lot to move my leg off my bed and I could barely move my hand to touch my face but when I ran it across my face I couldn't see my hands just feel them run over my eyes and my face. Eventually I stopped resisting the heavy feeling in my mind and everything went dark but with slight color auras and there was sensations but it was going on in my head...the rest of what happened is more so personal but I woke up shortly after and realized it was all a dream but I didn't remember falling asleep and what I saw when I woke up was what I was seeing when I was laying down. So idk, I have a book on mastering Astral Projection but I'm already studying and reading other projects at the moment so I haven't had a chance to investigate.
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    Jul 08, 2012 7:00 PM GMT
    i had a dream that Walt Disney was trying to program your mind
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    Jul 09, 2012 2:38 AM GMT
    creme_de_la_creme saidI do know what the sleep paralysis stage is, I've had that many times, but what I was talking about above was different. It was different bc of how intense it was...and I'll elaborate...for one, some of these dreams of me laying down I'm not in the actual location I was physically sleeping in and I've revisited certain locations in dreams. Although I can describe this one that really gave me a sense of "okay this is real" I was napping but I didnt know it but I was laying down in my room and my body was numb...I wanted to move (and again my mind felt very heavy so I was almost resisting the heavy feeling) and it took a lot to move my leg off my bed and I could barely move my hand to touch my face but when I ran it across my face I couldn't see my hands just feel them run over my eyes and my face. Eventually I stopped resisting the heavy feeling in my mind and everything went dark but with slight color auras and there was sensations but it was going on in my head...the rest of what happened is more so personal but I woke up shortly after and realized it was all a dream but I didn't remember falling asleep and what I saw when I woke up was what I was seeing when I was laying down. So idk, I have a book on mastering Astral Projection but I'm already studying and reading other projects at the moment so I haven't had a chance to investigate.


    Completely understandable not reporting personal specifics. There are often experiences described as AP which, when as the body awakens, the mind carries with it what seems a remote viewing and that tends to linger even as the body wakes up. It is also possible to reverse that and to "step into" the vision. Also, you can create a, well, I suppose it might as well be called just a daydream (it was either that or "vision" which seems so pretentious haha) while your body is awake which is so vivid that you are able to step into that as a lucid dream, very similar to purposely putting your body to sleep in bed while maintaining consciousness instead of blacking out first and then waking up again within the dream.

    That we are able to revisit specific dream locations does seem to conflict somewhat with the notion that only waking life is verifiable merely by its repetition--that we observe the sun rise every day makes the sun real but if it rose only once we wouldn't call that reality but religion--that we awaken our bodies to the same world we last knew before our bodies slept, yet that we normally dream nonlucidly very different dreams each time we put our bodies to sleep.

    A nonlucid dreamer might get the taste of that sensation not so much by purposely revisiting a specific dream site but simply by awakening from a dream and then putting the body back to sleep to continue the interrupted dream from close enough to where it left off to give a sense of continuity, a sense of reality.

    But does that there can be repetition in the dream validate the dream as real, or do we then question if repetition of experience when the body is awake is a valid basis for determining its reality?

    Thus, one of the aspects of the dream yoga of Dzogchen, a heretofore esoteric school of Buddhism, is the notion of utilizing lucid dreaming to realize the illusionary nature of what we experience as reality.

    If you study both the atiyoga and Toltec dreaming, you'll find two interesting takes on the new age-named AP or OOBE. (Of the different ways of seeing, I am in the camp which views and experiences it all as a continuum, not as separate from each other.) In atiyoga, AP is a goal of lucid dreaming, but for the Toltec, the AP is nothing more than an exercise of the dream. So they come at it from opposite directions. Castaneda describes what would be more or less AP/OOBE as handling raw energy directly, with no intermediary. Once accomplished, once you are able to direct your energy body, then the deed is essentially done and those skills are then incorporated into the waking dream to maintain and enhance consciousness and your awareness of it. So while you'll find so many more experiences with that, just be careful not to let it distract you.

    Always remember to find yourself. Even if you have to use a mirror. Any reflective surface will suffice. Just a little joke, but give it a try if you haven't yet seen your face in your dream.

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    Jul 09, 2012 4:53 AM GMT
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    creme_de_la_creme saidI do know what the sleep paralysis stage is, I've had that many times, but what I was talking about above was different. It was different bc of how intense it was...and I'll elaborate...for one, some of these dreams of me laying down I'm not in the actual location I was physically sleeping in and I've revisited certain locations in dreams. Although I can describe this one that really gave me a sense of "okay this is real" I was napping but I didnt know it but I was laying down in my room and my body was numb...I wanted to move (and again my mind felt very heavy so I was almost resisting the heavy feeling) and it took a lot to move my leg off my bed and I could barely move my hand to touch my face but when I ran it across my face I couldn't see my hands just feel them run over my eyes and my face. Eventually I stopped resisting the heavy feeling in my mind and everything went dark but with slight color auras and there was sensations but it was going on in my head...the rest of what happened is more so personal but I woke up shortly after and realized it was all a dream but I didn't remember falling asleep and what I saw when I woke up was what I was seeing when I was laying down. So idk, I have a book on mastering Astral Projection but I'm already studying and reading other projects at the moment so I haven't had a chance to investigate.


    Completely understandable not reporting personal specifics. There are often experiences described as AP which, when as the body awakens, the mind carries with it what seems a remote viewing and that tends to linger even as the body wakes up. It is also possible to reverse that and to "step into" the vision. Also, you can create a, well, I suppose it might as well be called just a daydream (it was either that or "vision" which seems so pretentious haha) while your body is awake which is so vivid that you are able to step into that as a lucid dream, very similar to purposely putting your body to sleep in bed while maintaining consciousness instead of blacking out first and then waking up again within the dream.

    That we are able to revisit specific dream locations does seem to conflict somewhat with the notion that only waking life is verifiable merely by its repetition--that we observe the sun rise every day makes the sun real but if it rose only once we wouldn't call that reality but religion--that we awaken our bodies to the same world we last knew before our bodies slept, yet that we normally dream nonlucidly very different dreams each time we put our bodies to sleep.

    A nonlucid dreamer might get the taste of that sensation not so much by purposely revisiting a specific dream site but simply by awakening from a dream and then putting the body back to sleep to continue the interrupted dream from close enough to where it left off to give a sense of continuity, a sense of reality.

    But does that there can be repetition in the dream validate the dream as real, or do we then question if repetition of experience when the body is awake is a valid basis for determining its reality?

    Thus, one of the aspects of the dream yoga of Dzogchen, a heretofore esoteric school of Buddhism, is the notion of utilizing lucid dreaming to realize the illusionary nature of what we experience as reality.

    If you study both the atiyoga and Toltec dreaming, you'll find two interesting takes on the new age-named AP or OOBE. (Of the different ways of seeing, I am in the camp which views and experiences it all as a continuum, not as separate from each other.) In atiyoga, AP is a goal of lucid dreaming, but for the Toltec, the AP is nothing more than an exercise of the dream. So they come at it from opposite directions. Castaneda describes what would be more or less AP/OOBE as handling raw energy directly, with no intermediary. Once accomplished, once you are able to direct your energy body, then the deed is essentially done and those skills are then incorporated into the waking dream to maintain and enhance consciousness and your awareness of it. So while you'll find so many more experiences with that, just be careful not to let it distract you.

    Always remember to find yourself. Even if you have to use a mirror. Any reflective surface will suffice. Just a little joke, but give it a try if you haven't yet seen your face in your dream.



    awesome, that was all very interesting and I got the gist of most of it (so thanks for sharing much appreciated) my consciousness and awareness is divinely enlightened tho icon_smile.gif I'm very much an Indigo Child so I may have to read that and do more studying on what you were talking about to really really understand it but like I said, I got the gist...I understand the dualities of reality, dimensions, the mind, etc. Thanks again, I followed you through the first part but near the middle and end there were certain parts where you lost me... icon_razz.gif I guess I don't know what else to say man lol I totally dig and get the "the illusionary nature of what we experience as reality" part aha!
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    Jul 09, 2012 6:41 AM GMT
    guyathome74 saidyeah I agree with paulflexes. Were you aware and in control of the dream? If not, it wasn't lucid.
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    I pretty sure it was lucid. I was winning a race in my dream or trying to