What does gay on tv have to be sooo gay?

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    Jul 09, 2012 3:00 AM GMT
    I saw a commercial for a new sitcom on NBC that features 2 gay guys that are raising a family. While it's great to see more gay characters on shows I wonder why on network tv they can't seem to represent gays without them being more feminine or almost campy in some cases (i.e Jack from Will and Grace or the guys from Modern Family). I am not saying there is anything wrong with seeing feminine gay men on tv but how about a more well rounded representation of our community? It could be argued that in some ways they know America will laugh (or make fun of) the more feminine characters at their own expense. Any thoughts?
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
    Totally agree.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:03 AM GMT
    I've been saying this for years.

    TV needs to get more accurate in their representation of us.

    The way it is now, it's akin to having all Asians on TV wearing V-shaped satellite dishes on their heads, and all blacks wearing dingy torn clothing and saying "massa" to all the white folk.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:04 AM GMT
    The same people who did Will and Grace are doing that new show, no? So don't be surprised.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:25 AM GMT
    This is why I don't watch that shit. Until they get it right, not interested
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:29 AM GMT
    The stupid and annoying thing is that the show is call "The New Normal". Sorry, but those gay characters are not the norm. Please get it right Hollywood.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:31 AM GMT
    ITT: str8-actin masc queens complain about fem guys for the millionth time.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:32 AM GMT
    Yea I think they need a reality show about a str8 acting brown muzlim boi like me. Do you guys agree?
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:32 AM GMT
    Anduru saidITT: str8-actin masc queens complain about fem guys for the millionth time.


    you troll you
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
    Anduru saidITT: str8-actin masc queens complain about fem guys for the millionth time.


    Well TV has certainly had it's share of nelly queens.

    Stop trolling.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
    Officer John Cooper on Southland is a much more accurate portrayal of a gay man. They generally stay vague with his personal life, but you get glimpses into it and confirmation that he's gay in the 2nd and 3rd seasons. Def one of my favorite shows.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
    Retard said
    Anduru saidITT: str8-actin masc queens complain about fem guys for the millionth time.
    you troll you
    i like ur new username
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:46 AM GMT
    Jonno11 saidOfficer John Cooper on Southland is a much more accurate portrayal of a gay man. They generally stay vague with his personal life, but you get glimpses into it and confirmation that he's gay in the 2nd and 3rd seasons. Def one of my favorite shows.
    There's another TV show with a str8-actin masc gay boy on it but I don't know the name of it. These silly princesses are just trying to find something to complain about.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:46 AM GMT
    Jonno11 saidOfficer John Cooper on Southland is a much more accurate portrayal of a gay man. They generally stay vague with his personal life, but you get glimpses into it and confirmation that he's gay in the 2nd and 3rd seasons. Def one of my favorite shows.


    Um aren't you the guy who sells weed and was calling racist names in the chatroom? What an exemplar of gay men... right beside the Colonel and 7famark.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:47 AM GMT
    scholargrowingmuscle saidStop trolling.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    If you actually think that's me trolling you clearly have no idea what I'm capable of.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:48 AM GMT
    "What does gay on tv have to be sooo gay?"

    um, what is this ESL of a title tho?
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:49 AM GMT
    Because Logo set the bar so low.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:51 AM GMT
    Aren't you perpetuating that by using "gay" as a synonym for effeminacy in your title?
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:52 AM GMT
    A fair representation of homosexuals in American would be of Queer As Folk characters all interlaced into Prime Time Programming, minus the sex scenes. No one figure can be attributed to Gay Culture anymore. Be the gay representative where you live. Noone is going to come along as volunteer to make YOU Look Good.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:52 AM GMT
    The comercialization of gay stereotypes to the majority (Heterosexuals).icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:55 AM GMT
    Because everyday-Joe-types don't make for mass entertainment. The networks are out to sell ad revenue based on ratings, and these days the most outrageous shows get the highest viewership. It doesn't make it right, but that's the way it is unfortunately.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:55 AM GMT
    To be fair, Will & Grace wasn't that bad since Will himself seemed like just an ordinary guy. When I was watching it a day, my bros thought he and Grace were together and when I told them he was gay they didn't believe it.

    The guys from Modern Family aren't totally fem, they have the qualities of both, where it is shown that (can't remember the big one's name) does a lot of outdoor work and can be masculine.

    I do agree that there should be more depictions of normal/masculine gay guys in the media. That will definitely affect the way people view gays instead of always believing that if you're gay you're instantly fem which makes them think that everyone gay is fem.

    It's not bad to be fem, but it's fair to the entire gay community that it be portrayed accurately rather than the easiest thing to be made fun of/used to entertain people at primetime.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:58 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    Jonno11 saidOfficer John Cooper on Southland is a much more accurate portrayal of a gay man. They generally stay vague with his personal life, but you get glimpses into it and confirmation that he's gay in the 2nd and 3rd seasons. Def one of my favorite shows.
    There's another TV show with a str8-actin masc gay boy on it but I don't know the name of it. These silly princesses are just trying to find something to complain about.


    Danny from Teen Wolf, I think. He's not the main protagonist, however.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
    No Offense, but here is the thing. Campy Fem gays are more noticed in the world. The more masculine men blend in , sometimes to the point where people do not know they are gay, and it is stereotypes that stick out and alot of people tend to understate. Not always cool but there are plenty of people who act like jack..BUT

    Will is also gay and is closer to the norm, but i think gay has been represented in a good light going beyond the stereotype.

    Trevor Donovan, and Freddie Smith from 90210
    Riley and Zane, Degrassi
    Kevin and Scotty, Brothers and Sisters
    Chad , Passions


    All these gay men tend to be either on the more masculine side, or just seem like regular guys.

    I think overall the campiness has went down.

    Alot of gay men are divas(of course not all(, but I think anyone who takes a gay guy and applies him to all gay people need to not do that.

    so don't sweat it. I think if you look around you will see quite a few gay men who don't fit in that category on tv.
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    Jul 09, 2012 4:05 AM GMT
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    Jonno11 saidOfficer John Cooper on Southland is a much more accurate portrayal of a gay man. They generally stay vague with his personal life, but you get glimpses into it and confirmation that he's gay in the 2nd and 3rd seasons. Def one of my favorite shows.


    Um aren't you the guy who sells weed and was calling racist names in the chatroom? What an exemplar of gay men... right beside the Colonel and 7famark.


    Nope not me, you must be mistaken. I don't do drugs, nor would I ever sell them, and I am certainly not racist.