Gay site forced to become straight

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    Jul 09, 2012 4:40 AM GMT
    wral.comNC court rules website must accept straight visitors

    In what has been a largely unknown battle, John Harper was ordered by a NC court to open his website to heterosexual patrons. Mavenrestin.com, once an a social networking site strictly for non-heterosexuals, was sued by Reverend Steven Wade, a local Reverend of Poplar Springs Baptist Church, for catering strictly to heterosexuals.

    When WRAL interviewed Wade about his motivation to bring a lawsuit against the relatively small site, Wade stated, "It is clear discrimination. I have seen heterosexual websites punished for disallowing gays, it seems only fair. Aren't homosexuals all about equality?"

    Harper responded. "This is just plain wrong. Homosexuals are a protected minority class. There are plenty of sites out there for them. This is a personal attack by Steve because he feels a gay site based in his hometown of Bunn . . . it is somehow threatening his church and values."

    Harper feels the court's decision is a slap in the face of the gay identity. He said opening his site to everyone doesn't add a significant cost to his business, but as a gay man, he is disappointed he can't create something that better represents his own identity. "Knowing it was a site for gay people by gay people made me excited about it. I was proud to be the owner and in a way, it was my way of being a gay advocate," he is reported as saying.

    Gay activists worry this could be another mode of attack by conservatives. Mike Ward, the attorney of Harper, and a self proclaimed LGBT ally, says advocates of gay rights should be worried about this small victory for conservatives. "What's to stop conservative leaders from weakening the effectiveness and solidarity of gay functions and events by proclaiming they discriminate against heterosexuals?," he expressed to reporters.

    Harper went on to say that he does not wish to fight the matter further because of the high cost of court, and the fact that he has already reprogrammed his site to have separate distinctions for people of any orientation. But he now feels the need to be more active in the gay community and more active at pushing for equality. He and his close friends are working on a petition for the NC legislature that would make sexual orientation a protected class.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
    Another example of why we gays and lesbians and all the other allies in this category should declare our belief in and living our sexuality a "religion" and get it IRS-recognized as a church/faith - and thus take advantage of the many privileges and protections under the ever-so-popular "my religious freedoms" banner. Not to mention, being allowed legally to exclude non-GLBT people from our religious activities (websites, social events in real life, denying Xtian heterosexual services because they go against our religion, etc. etc. etc.)icon_twisted.gif
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    Jul 10, 2012 5:25 AM GMT
    Lets just invade the hell out of the conservative 'hetero only crap sites' ! Turn about is fair game!
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    Jul 15, 2012 1:01 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidLets just invade the hell out of the conservative 'hetero only crap sites' ! Turn about is fair game!
    This*^
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    Jul 15, 2012 1:25 PM GMT


    If it was my site this would be a bit of a no-brainer.

    Let 'em come. An interesting lesson to them when they discover my TOS and that it is enforced.

    You want to be on my site? Fine, you'll have to be nice to the gays, and they'll have to be nice to you.

    Obviously there's an inference that the straights will want to bash n troll the gays. Oops; banned. icon_lol.gif



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    Jul 15, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    If it was my site this would be a bit of a no-brainer.

    Let 'em come. An interesting lesson to them when they discover my TOS and that it is enforced.

    You want to be on my site? Fine, you'll have to be nice to the gays, and they'll have to be nice to you.

    Obviously there's an inference that the straights will want to bash n troll the gays. Oops; banned. icon_lol.gif

    Except, in the US the trolls would claim they had a right to their "opinion". And that they were expressing their religious belief, in hating gays.

    The fact that it's a privately owned site, the users essentially "guests", might not stand up in court. It's similar to the argument that restaurants, though privately owned, are "public places of accommodation" and so cannot discriminate. Is a gay website open to the public, like a restaurant or retail store, and does that restrain gay site owners from "discrimination" against straights? And if the straights are disruptive, aren't they just exercising their Constitutional rights of free speech and religious belief?

    This has yet to find its way into US courts yet. On the other hand, if a straight website owner banned gays, would that be discrimination? According to most States with Republican legislatures, the answer is NO. Gays have been excluded from discrimination protection, so it becomes legal & permissible, as State courts have ruled. And most of the gay discrimination protections in the Federal government were removed during the most recent Bush Administration, with Obama's efforts to reinstate them opposed by Congressional Republicans.
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    Jul 15, 2012 1:55 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    If it was my site this would be a bit of a no-brainer.

    Let 'em come. An interesting lesson to them when they discover my TOS and that it is enforced.

    You want to be on my site? Fine, you'll have to be nice to the gays, and they'll have to be nice to you.

    Obviously there's an inference that the straights will want to bash n troll the gays. Oops; banned. icon_lol.gif





    There is this gay website that attacks gay men for being possible right wing plants and then they get accused of not being gay. It is very accepting. They are nice to everyone.
    You should talk, you were part of that attack maninlove!
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    Jul 15, 2012 2:02 PM GMT

    Don't lie Dean_ it will catch up with you. I have never said the guys on the right side of politics here are not gay and are plants.

    Some of them are my friends outside of Realjock.

    You're mad because I took a stand against the harrassment of Art. Get over it.



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    Jul 15, 2012 2:06 PM GMT

    Art, this, for example, is a privately owned website. Free speech rules are at the sole discretion of admin.

    Each site has its own TOS.


    A more accurate title to this topic would be 'Gay Site Forced to Become Mixed'
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    Jul 15, 2012 2:22 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Don't lie Dean_ it will catch up with you. I have never said the guys on the right side of politics here are not gay and are plants.

    Some of them are my friends outside of Realjock.

    You're mad because I took a stand against the harrassment of Art. Get over it.







    Catch up to me? You taking a stand for Deco's harassment of me? He was wrong and he will be called out on this. Me attacking Deco? He attacked me first and you know it.
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    Jul 15, 2012 2:25 PM GMT
    This is not my site, Dean. If you have a problem, take it up with admin.
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    Jul 15, 2012 3:25 PM GMT
    meninlove said This is not my site, Dean. If you have a problem, take it up with admin.


    Admin is well aware of what is going on and if they had a problem w/ it they would have taken care of it. And btw--your brought up ART. I was responding to the fact that there are a lot of gay men who are not accepting of others--

    And thanks for not responding to Arts attack on me icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 15, 2012 4:22 PM GMT

    lol, you're only on this topic because Art posted on it. Many know that you stalk him about the forums, and others have pointed that out to you.

    Now you did state that I was a part of an attack.

    " There is this gay website that attacks gay men for being possible right wing plants and then they get accused of not being gay"

    "You should talk, you were part of that attack maninlove!"

    So again, I have not attacked right wing guys here saying they are plants and not gay.

    Capiche?

    Back to topic.
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    Jul 15, 2012 4:48 PM GMT
    I was on topic and I was talking about you-

    No people don't all know, but they are starting to understand--

    Stalking? You responded to my post which had nothing to do w/ Deco--had to do w/ you bashing me ---Stupidly, you brought that up. And I was typing this up when Deco posted--his was at 0654 and mine at 0655--- I'm not that quick-- icon_lol.gif

    Forstå? You really are an arrogant SOB just like your friend--

    So please, keep defending yourself, him and responding to this post-
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    Jul 15, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
    *sighs* If it makes you feel better, Dean, knock yourself out.