New York Times - Conservatives happier than Liberals

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    Jul 09, 2012 5:36 AM GMT
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/opinion/sunday/conservatives-are-happier-and-extremists-are-happiest-of-all.html?_r=1
  • creature

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    Jul 09, 2012 6:13 AM GMT
    An explanation for the happiness gap more congenial to liberals is that conservatives are simply inattentive to the misery of others. If they recognized the injustice in the world, they wouldn’t be so cheerful.
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    Jul 09, 2012 6:24 AM GMT
    creature saidAn explanation for the happiness gap more congenial to liberals is that conservatives are simply inattentive to the misery of others. If they recognized the injustice in the world, they wouldn’t be so cheerful.


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  • nanidesukedo

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    Jul 09, 2012 6:26 AM GMT
    So, let's summarize:
    Extremists, conservatives, and those who are really religious are the happiest.

    That makes the tea party people the happiest.

    I could have told you that based off an old saying:

    Ignorance is bliss.
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    Jul 09, 2012 6:28 AM GMT
    David4985 said
    creature saidAn explanation for the happiness gap more congenial to liberals is that conservatives are simply inattentive to the misery of others. If they recognized the injustice in the world, they wouldn’t be so cheerful.


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    Jul 09, 2012 8:06 AM GMT
    1) Religious people are probably happier because they think religion makes them happy and they act accordingly. Religion also serves as a distraction from real-world problems.

    2) Members of privileged social groups (like white heterosexual Christians) have never had to deal with much adversity. Which is not to say there aren't impoverished Republicans, but they're too brainwashed by the rich to realize it.

    3) When you ignore problems such as inequality, war and poverty, then you might find the world less depressing.
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    Jul 09, 2012 8:25 AM GMT
    Well it would not be hard for one to conclude, I am more happier in life than many of the liberals here at RJ, as for one I am not so angry.as many of them clearly are. Nor do I need gay marriage to feel whole and complete as I already am, as well am much loved, and am not in need of some piece of paper to confirm that; albeit I support the concept of Civil Unions.. I have an inner piece and security many of the liberals here seek.
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    Jul 09, 2012 10:00 AM GMT
    Funny the liberals take one sentence out of context and high five each other. Read a bit further and see this sentence, geniuses:

    So conservatives are ignorant, and ignorance is bliss, right? Not so fast, according to a study from the University of Florida psychologists Barry Schlenker and John Chambers and the University of Toronto psychologist Bonnie Le in the Journal of Research in Personality.
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    Jul 09, 2012 10:23 AM GMT
    Genius, the article is going back and forth with different researchers. If we go further than what you quoted, you will see that it's dependent on what problem is being defined. This can go either way.
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    Jul 09, 2012 10:40 AM GMT
    creature saidGenius, the article is going back and forth with different researchers. If we go further than what you quoted, you will see that it's dependent on what problem is being defined. This can go either way.

    Yes, I know quite well. My point was your extract suggested that was the main conclusion, which your fellow geniuses bought into. So if you were able to read and comprehend the entire article the first time through, you were dishonest. Imagine that, what a shocker. icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 09, 2012 10:58 AM GMT
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    creature saidGenius, the article is going back and forth with different researchers. If we go further than what you quoted, you will see that it's dependent on what problem is being defined. This can go either way.

    Yes, I know quite well. My point was your extract suggested that was the main conclusion, which your fellow geniuses bought into. So if you were able to read and comprehend the entire article the first time through, you were dishonest. Imagine that, what a shocker. icon_lol.gif


    I did read and understand the entire article. I was highlighting what I thought to be an interesting point.

    Let's not get started on dishonesty, which is what your record here on RealJock is based on.
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    Jul 09, 2012 11:10 AM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    creature saidGenius, the article is going back and forth with different researchers. If we go further than what you quoted, you will see that it's dependent on what problem is being defined. This can go either way.

    Yes, I know quite well. My point was your extract suggested that was the main conclusion, which your fellow geniuses bought into. So if you were able to read and comprehend the entire article the first time through, you were dishonest. Imagine that, what a shocker. icon_lol.gif


    I did read and understand the entire article. I was highlighting what I thought to be an interesting point.

    Let's not get started on dishonesty, which is what your record here on RealJock is based on.

    LOL. Your extract was meant to suggest to others that it was the point. Regarding dishonesty, only need to go back a couple of days when you claimed I referred to RJ members as communists. You liberals try anything to make your points, and the truth is only an inconvenience, something easily ignored.
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    Jul 09, 2012 11:16 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    creature said
    socalfitness said
    creature saidGenius, the article is going back and forth with different researchers. If we go further than what you quoted, you will see that it's dependent on what problem is being defined. This can go either way.

    Yes, I know quite well. My point was your extract suggested that was the main conclusion, which your fellow geniuses bought into. So if you were able to read and comprehend the entire article the first time through, you were dishonest. Imagine that, what a shocker. icon_lol.gif


    I did read and understand the entire article. I was highlighting what I thought to be an interesting point.

    Let's not get started on dishonesty, which is what your record here on RealJock is based on.

    LOL. Your extract was meant to suggest to others that it was the point. Regarding dishonesty, only need to go back a couple of days when you claimed I referred to RJ members as communists. You liberals try anything to make your points, and the truth is only an inconvenience, something easily ignored.


    The point of the article is in its title, and is what freedomisntfree used as the title for this thread. So obviously, what I quoted happened to be one of the points, not the main argument.

    If you never called RJ members communists I'll apologize for the accusation. I, unlike yourself, have no problem admitting my mistake.

    "try anything to make your points, and the truth is only an inconvenience, something easily ignored"

    That suits you, buddy.
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    Jul 09, 2012 11:21 AM GMT
    nanidesukedo: So, let's summarize:Extremists, conservatives, and those who are really religious are the happiest.That makes the tea party people the happiest.I could have told you that based off an old saying:Ignorance is bliss.

    jockfever: When your belief system is based on lies, e.g.,

    Nothing created Everything,

    growing government creates utopia, and

    everyone who disagrees with the above two lies must be crazy, stupid, and/or racist,

    you're bound to be uneasy.

    Studies show that that those who do not complete high school are about 90 percent more likely to identify themselves as Democrats.

    The least educated are the electoral strength of the Statist Democrat Party. (Source: The Irrational Atheist by Vox Day)


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    Jul 09, 2012 1:06 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    creature said
    socalfitness said
    creature saidGenius, the article is going back and forth with different researchers. If we go further than what you quoted, you will see that it's dependent on what problem is being defined. This can go either way.

    Yes, I know quite well. My point was your extract suggested that was the main conclusion, which your fellow geniuses bought into. So if you were able to read and comprehend the entire article the first time through, you were dishonest. Imagine that, what a shocker. icon_lol.gif


    I did read and understand the entire article. I was highlighting what I thought to be an interesting point.

    Let's not get started on dishonesty, which is what your record here on RealJock is based on.

    LOL. Your extract was meant to suggest to others that it was the point. Regarding dishonesty, only need to go back a couple of days when you claimed I referred to RJ members as communists. You liberals try anything to make your points, and the truth is only an inconvenience, something easily ignored.


    Why does discussion like this simply turn into a tacky opportunity to slap the other side. Stick with facts on what has been presented and leave out the
    side bullshit... geez.
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    Jul 09, 2012 1:12 PM GMT
    Interesting points for me:

    1. So this is why they don't want gay marriage...
    OPMany conservatives favor an explanation focusing on lifestyle differences, such as marriage and faith. They note that most conservatives are married; most liberals are not. (The percentages are 53 percent to 33 percent, according to my calculations using data from the 2004 General Social Survey, and almost none of the gap is due to the fact that liberals tend to be younger than conservatives.) Marriage and happiness go together. If two people are demographically the same but one is married and the other is not, the married person will be 18 percentage points more likely to say he or she is very happy than the unmarried person.


    2. Explains why I'm so unhappy icon_biggrin.gif
    OPBut it turns out that’s wrong. People at the extremes are happier than political moderates. Correcting for income, education, age, race, family situation and religion, the happiest Americans are those who say they are either “extremely conservative” (48 percent very happy) or “extremely liberal” (35 percent). Everyone else is less happy, with the nadir at dead-center “moderate” (26 percent).

    What explains this odd pattern? One possibility is that extremists have the whole world figured out, and sorted into good guys and bad guys. They have the security of knowing what’s wrong, and whom to fight. They are the happy warriors.
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    Jul 09, 2012 1:16 PM GMT


    From what I've seen here on RJ, neither side is very happy.

    As for conservatives in these topics, if so happy then why the constant barrage about how awful things are?

    As for outside here, if so happy then why the outrage over equal rights for gays, for example?

    I think the idea that members of one political party are happier than the other is rather bad science.


    intrigued....
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    Jul 09, 2012 1:21 PM GMT
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    As for conservatives in these topics, if so happy then why the constant barrage about how awful things are? ....
    intrigued....

    Intrigue can be very simpy answered. How awful things are reflect on the incumbent and his performance. He wants to change the subject and deflect, but the other side won't let him.
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    Jul 09, 2012 1:42 PM GMT

    O I C.

    So those outraged Republicans who as soon as they get in a position of power waste taxpayer monies and gov't time shafting gays are happy people.

    Interesting.

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    Jul 09, 2012 3:03 PM GMT
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    creature saidGenius, the article is going back and forth with different researchers. If we go further than what you quoted, you will see that it's dependent on what problem is being defined. This can go either way.

    Yes, I know quite well. My point was your extract suggested that was the main conclusion, which your fellow geniuses bought into. So if you were able to read and comprehend the entire article the first time through, you were dishonest. Imagine that, what a shocker. icon_lol.gif


    I did read and understand the entire article. I was highlighting what I thought to be an interesting point.

    Let's not get started on dishonesty, which is what your record here on RealJock is based on.

    LOL. Your extract was meant to suggest to others that it was the point. Regarding dishonesty, only need to go back a couple of days when you claimed I referred to RJ members as communists. You liberals try anything to make your points, and the truth is only an inconvenience, something easily ignored.


    The point of the article is in its title, and is what freedomisntfree used as the title for this thread. So obviously, what I quoted happened to be one of the points, not the main argument.

    If you never called RJ members communists I'll apologize for the accusation. I, unlike yourself, have no problem admitting my mistake.

    "try anything to make your points, and the truth is only an inconvenience, something easily ignored"

    That suits you, buddy.


    I shortened the title a bit from what was in RCP and NYT

    "Why Conservatives Are Happier Than Liberals - Arthur Brooks, NY Times"
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:14 PM GMT
    All you need to know about the credibility of this silly article is in the byline:

    "Arthur C. Brooks is the president of the American Enterprise Institute".

    My friends in sociology and I had a really good laugh about this article this morning.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
    jockfever saidnanidesukedo: So, let's summarize:Extremists, conservatives, and those who are really religious are the happiest.That makes the tea party people the happiest.I could have told you that based off an old saying:Ignorance is bliss.

    jockfever: When your belief system is based on lies, e.g.,

    Nothing created Everything,

    growing government creates utopia, and

    everyone who disagrees with the above two lies must be crazy, stupid, and/or racist,

    you're bound to be uneasy.

    Studies show that that those who do not complete high school are about 90 percent more likely to identify themselves as Democrats.

    The least educated are the electoral strength of the Statist Democrat Party. (Source: The Irrational Atheist by Vox Day)




    So an expensive education makes you superior? Sounds like a typically elitist thing to say.

    I'm afraid your fine education merely brainwashed you into believing you have the right to be inconsiderate toward those less fortunate.

    Anyone who's learned to follow the golden rule is likely the happiest of all.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:28 PM GMT
    Anecdotally, from my many many years on this planet, the article would coincide with my personal observations, for what that’s worth, which frankly isn’t much.

    I don’t know any democrats or homosexuals here in Columbus. I live in a county north of Columbus, which has been ranked as the 11th most conservative county in the country. I find it to be a very happy place with folks that are easy to meet and fun to be around. I'm very outgoing so its real easy for me to meet people.

    I knew a bunch of democrats in my 15 years in Santa Monica because that’s just about all there was and I didn’t find them to be particularly friendly or happy and that’s before they knew what a right winger I am. After they knew, they were simply impossible to be around. Maybe there are some regional difference factored in there too in that folks just aren't very friendly in metro LA.

    I would also say that in my 7 years in Palos Verdes, which is probably the most conservative area in LA County and equal to anything in OC, that it was a much happier place than LA’s west side. Could be my hugely right wing bias that influenced how I perceived my surroundings. I’m rambling here so best to wrap it up and get back to work.

    Anyway, I found the article interesting so I posted it.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:33 PM GMT
    I'm generally a happy person, but it has little to do with my political, religious or tea party views. It's good to be healthy and productive.
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    Jul 09, 2012 3:34 PM GMT
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    jockfever saidnanidesukedo: So, let's summarize:Extremists, conservatives, and those who are really religious are the happiest.That makes the tea party people the happiest.I could have told you that based off an old saying:Ignorance is bliss.

    jockfever: When your belief system is based on lies, e.g.,

    Nothing created Everything,

    growing government creates utopia, and

    everyone who disagrees with the above two lies must be crazy, stupid, and/or racist,

    you're bound to be uneasy.

    Studies show that that those who do not complete high school are about 90 percent more likely to identify themselves as Democrats.

    The least educated are the electoral strength of the Statist Democrat Party. (Source: The Irrational Atheist by Vox Day)




    So an expensive education makes you superior? Sounds like a typically elitist thing to say.

    I'm afraid your fine education merely brainwashed you into believing you have the right to be inconsiderate toward those less fortunate.

    Anyone who's learned to follow the golden rule is likely the happiest of all.


    Given that jock fever is fairly clearly as dumb as fuck, let's just hope he didn't pay too much for his education...