More Canadian gays identify as Conservative than Liberal - 5% self-identify as LGBT - 10% under 30s self-identify as LGBT

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    Jul 10, 2012 4:01 PM GMT
    http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/06/the-true-north-lgbt-new-poll-reveals-landscape-of-gay-canada/#anchor


    The Forum Research poll, commissioned by the National Post and taken twice in June to confirm its accuracy, found that 5% of Canadians identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. And contrary to the popular wisdom that the same-sex marriage rate is surprisingly low, the poll found that a third of LGBT people say they are in a same-sex marriage.

    “Social scientists have never been able to pin down how many Canadians are LGBT, but we believe this is the best estimate to date,” said Lorne Bozinoff, president of the polling firm. “This is something people want to know; they’re curious. And now is the time to measure it: people are less reluctant to answer the question, so we can actually ask it.”


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    Three pioneering openly gay politicians: Kyle Rae, Scott Brison and Svend Robinson. “I can’t, for the life of me, understand why a gay politician today wouldn’t come out,” Brison says.
    ..Statistics Canada says on its website it “has neither the definitive number of people whose sexual orientation is lesbian, gay, bisexual, nor the number of people who are transgender.” The statistical agency asked the question in 2009, but sociologists cautioned the rate is likely under-reported because some gays are suspicious of how the government will use the data or are offended Ottawa would even ask.

    That 2009 survey found 2% of Canadians aged 18-59 said they are gay, lesbian, or bisexual — a full 8% lower than the “one in 10” truism that has circulated since 1948, when American biologist Alfred Kinsey pronounced that 10% of all men are gay. Gary Kinsman, a Laurentian University sociologist and leading Canadian expert on sexuality issues, said the new Forum poll will undoubtedly provoke contestation from both the gay community, which will say the rate is under-reported and far too low, and social conservatives, ‘‘who will argue the results are somehow bogus and too high.”

    But Forum’s 5% figure jibes with the latest number out of the United States, where a University of California Los Angeles think-tank last year found 4% of Americans are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. University of British Columbia professor Amin Ghaziani said it is “terrific” that Canada has joined the U.S. in producing a more comprehensive snapshot of its gay community.

    “I think this survey will prove useful for demographers and anyone who is tracking public opinion on sexuality — on the relationship between knowing someone who is LGBT-identified and support for LGBT issues,” said Mr. Ghaziani, an expert in the sociology of sexuality who is working on a book about gay neighbourhoods.

    My generation didn’t come out until at least university. Today, people are coming out in high school, if not grade schoolThe results emerge in the same week that CNN personality Anderson Cooper revealed he is gay, prompting media pundits and journalists to ask an unprecedented question: Does it even matter anymore? With 74% of Canadians saying they know someone who is lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, 28% saying someone in their family is LGBT, and two-thirds saying they support gay marriage, Mr. Ghaziani said we seem to be entering a “post-gay” era where gays are less likely to identify themselves by their sexuality and where so-called gaybourhoods are unraveling because the community is increasingly intermingling with the straight population.

    Still, he cautioned that while gays are “disentangling gayness from militancy and struggle,” it would be a mistake to say Canada is void of discrimination. Scott Brison, the Liberal Party’s only gay MP, said in an interview he recently encountered a “young guy who was demonstrating bravado by making anti-gay comments to me in front of his friends.”

    But the new Forum poll reveals much about Canada’s gay community and how the community interacts with straight Canadians, at times confirming what was widely believed true and other times offering fresh insight on how age, gender, income and region can affect a person’s experience with the gay community.

    Younger Canadians are far more likely to say they are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender than older Canadians, with 10% of those aged 18 to 34 answering the question with a “yes,” compared to 2% or 3% in the four older age categories.

    “My generation didn’t come out until at least university,” said Mr. Rae, 58. “Today, people are coming out in high school, if not grade school.”



    Go to town guys.


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  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 10, 2012 4:58 PM GMT
    I think that all the first world and wealthier developing countries should join together in a snapshot of their GLBT communities.
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    Jul 10, 2012 6:07 PM GMT
    Upper Canadian, I'm seeing a discrepancy in the title and the stats.

    Correct me here...

    The title says more Canadian gays identify as Conservative than Liberal, but there are 5 main parties, with Conservative and Liberal being the smallest percentages. icon_wink.gif

    VERY interesting stats.
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    Jul 10, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    Interesting that the older brackets have a 10% rate of identifying LGBT... that is better than before, when it was only 5, but I often heard at least 20% have had a "gay experience" .. I know lots of straight people who have at least tried, which is nothing unusual, most gay people have tried straight too
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
    GreenHopper saidInteresting that the older brackets have a 10% rate of identifying LGBT... that is better than before, when it was only 5, but I often heard at least 20% have had a "gay experience" .. I know lots of straight people who have at least tried, which is nothing unusual, most gay people have tried straight too


    Not so sure about that, because why would straight want to try gay, as it's just not in them to do so, and why would a Bona Fide homosexual try straight, we would not as it also just not in us to do so; we know. But then there is alot of confusion that comes with bi, that should not be confused with either straight or gay.
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    Jul 10, 2012 9:52 PM GMT
    Ok the first chart shows only 2% of 65+ year olds identifying as LGBT but then the one below shows 2.4% saying they are in a same sex marriage.

    ...I wonder what those confused 0.4% of 65+ year olds are doing in a gay marriage.
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    Jul 10, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
    I don't know any gay person in Canada who support Conservative party. From my experience NDP is hands down the most popular among gays (the ones i know) followed by Liberals.
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    Jul 11, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
    WhyWhySee saidTBA, Please stop using the term "Bona fide" when referring to gay people - it suggests that gays who have experimented or were not always sure of their sexuality are somehow fakes.


    Sorry one cannot and will not. Because us Bona Fide Homosexuals have had our identity lost with the term gay becoming so generic where every Tom, Dick and Harriet, now stand under gay, even shoved under it. Where gay once meant homosexual, it's also now confused with bisexual, and a Bona Fide Homosexual is not and never has been a bisexual, just as straight men do not experiment with other males a Bona Fide Homosexual never has and never will experiment with the opposite sex; but it seems a gay will now. Also it's not taking anything away from our half brothers the bisexuals as they still get straight, gay and even bi to stand under, and now us Bona Fide Homosexuals have an identity of our own too.

    Pluse it's a term that has now sprouted and started to grow too; it's birth has come to pass.icon_wink.gif