Drag Culture...Is it helping or hurting societies opinions and perceptions of gays???

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    Jul 10, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
    I'm on the fence, but wanting some opinions?
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 10, 2012 5:03 PM GMT
    We would probably all still be in the closet if it weren't for drag queens paving the way.
  • easterndude69

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    Jul 10, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
    Somewhere in between
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    Jul 10, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
    Well, no one has talked about this here in at least a day or two. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Who cares. Everyone has the right to be whomever they want to be.
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:38 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidI think it may hurt a bit because straight society does not know the differences ... not all drag queens are gay, some are female impersonators and some are transvestites and transexuals and transgenders and some are crossdressers ... none of which are actually gay ... and may actually be straight in some cases


    You can't tell people how to live just because straight society won't understand. Where's your Gay Pride, man?

    Also I've never met a straight queen.icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:45 PM GMT
    Drag culture hurts society's perception of gays about as much as titty bars hurt society's perception of women during the women's rights movement.
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:48 PM GMT
    Drag has existed for centuries. The new Masculine Gays ONLY mentality is hurting the Freedom to express sexuality, by taking the same Gun/Stance as straights had against us for so many years. In reality, that mentality is the seed of the enemy turning you against your own. But don't get your knickers in a bunch, noone cares enough be led against the same guys they desire to fuck.
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
    if it hurts the perception then it is because of the ignorant fucks who love to judge others for no good reason (fellow gays included).
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    HottJoe said
    AMoonHawk saidI think it may hurt a bit because straight society does not know the differences ... not all drag queens are gay, some are female impersonators and some are transvestites and transexuals and transgenders and some are crossdressers ... none of which are actually gay ... and may actually be straight in some cases


    You can't tell people how to live just because straight society won't understand. Where's your Gay Pride, man?

    Also I've never met a straight queen.icon_confused.gif


    Um the question was do you think it hurts the perception of gays ... my answer was yes I think it did and why ... no where did I indicate anyone needs to change who they are .... You never heard of J. Edgar Hoover?


    Very unflattering example.

    I always stand up for drag queens whenever I hear people disparaging them. I've known a bunch.
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    Jul 10, 2012 8:03 PM GMT
    I don't care if someone wants to dress in drag or not. I'm secure enough in my own sexuality, and how I express it, to know I represent myself strongly enough in the area I'm in; if people know I'm gay or not.
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    Jul 10, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
    It's much too hot this summer for drag, but see us after the summer in Stanton, MI., 9-13 to 9-15

    http://www.purestockdrags.com/

    be there for the best drag ever

    http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStockDrags

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    Jul 10, 2012 8:30 PM GMT
    I don't see any evidence it is hurting anything so who cares?
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    Jul 10, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
    I doubt that this is hurting us. If a man likes being in drag, then it is his right to be able to do it freely! Plus, what would we do without Drag Bingo? SCARY thought, I know!
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    Jul 10, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
    Some people are terrified of drag queens, I mean they're big, loud personalities that love to make you uncomfortable! Some people can't handle it, others think it's hilarious.
  • acdarkly

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    Jul 10, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
    i appreciated the human aspect of drag more after watching RuPauls drag race [ it was funny but the stories the guys share is far more intriguing than than humor ]
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 10, 2012 8:39 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    JR_RJ saidI don't care if someone wants to dress in drag or not. I'm secure enough in my own sexuality, and how I express it, to know I represent myself strongly enough in the area I'm in; if people know I'm gay or not.


    Did you read the question ... it is not about whether your care or not

    The question is
    Do you think the opinion and perception of gay people is hurt by drag culture?
    If you don't think that society in general perceives gay people negatively by the drag culture, then the answer would be no. You might elaborate as to why you would believe that, but the question as posted has nothing to do with your feelings.


    If anything society prefers drag queens. I think there's a thread around here about femmy guys on TV.

    When I think of drag queens they are usually just gay men with a stage persona.
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    Jul 10, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
    drag .... and the older more mature 1958 Monterey beats the younger buffer 1970 SS 396.

    Go drag


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    Jul 10, 2012 9:39 PM GMT
    This thread is off the charts...

    It's time....

    TO LIP-SYNC FOR YOUR LIVES!
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    Jul 10, 2012 10:03 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidWe would probably all still be in the closet if it weren't for drag queens paving the way.


    I agree with this statement, after all doesn't the documentary on Stonewall gives the credit mostly to the drag queens for resisting discrimination. They are the birth mothers of cultural assimilation to the bourgeois. Acceptance of gay.

    I know a few Queens in New York all are the most fearless people I know. The courage it takes to be and do what they do is commendable. It is just important to understand like any social group there are differences which make us us; straight or gay. Not all straights are homophobic, so homophobia is not the ugly monster that categorizes all straight people. Queens are just one aspect of our culture not the defining one.

    Raise your glass to those that are Queens and respect their fearlessness to be who they are in a society that still challenges the acceptance of gay.
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    Jul 10, 2012 10:06 PM GMT
    7Famark saidThis thread is off the charts...

    It's time....

    TO LIP-SYNC FOR YOUR LIVES!
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    Hell yes!
  • jim_sf

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    Jul 10, 2012 10:14 PM GMT
    Can I please generalize this topic?

    Q: Does X help or hurt society's opinions and perceptions of gays?
    A: No, because the people who like us like us, and the people who dislike us dislike us, regardless of the presence or absence of X.

    I can't think of any values of X which make this false.
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    Jul 10, 2012 10:23 PM GMT
    Personally, I hate American drag.
    British drag is hysterical though, they have been doing it for years.



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    Jul 10, 2012 10:23 PM GMT
    Bustamante said
    7Famark saidThis thread is off the charts...

    It's time....

    TO LIP-SYNC FOR YOUR LIVES!
    RuPaul_clap.gif


    Hell yes!


    Ru-Paul commercially capitalized and probably has done more to mainstream GAY then anyone. The culture needs to show that there is more diversity within. Men like Barney Frank as a public figure has added to that showing cultural quality and again the feel of bourgeois.

    We are as middle class as the next American.

    Does Snooki represent all American women? No! Drag Culture is one aspect not a defining one.
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    Jul 10, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
    WhyWhySee said
    freedomisntfree saiddrag .... and the older more mature 1958 Monterey beats the younger buffer 1970 SS 396.

    Go drag



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    That was great

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  • gymguy81

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    Jul 10, 2012 11:00 PM GMT
    well drag queens can go alittle over the edge so im kinda on the fence