the military may soon be in my future...

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    Jul 10, 2012 5:49 PM GMT
    I'm looking into applying for the AFROTC program at the college I attend. Has anyone on here gone the military route to pay for school, or just in general? Any advice?
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    Jul 10, 2012 6:28 PM GMT
    I have!!! And in my case, the military only ended up paying for about 75% of my tuition. If you enlist, don't do it for the money. It really is a lifestyle adjustment so be ready for that. It's not a 9-5 job.

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    Jul 10, 2012 6:32 PM GMT
    75% would be a tremendous help. It's partially because of scholarships, but the lifestyle change is appealing to me. I want to do more with myself than what I'm doing now. I want to get away. Travel. Do something worthwhile with myself and help out a cause bigger than my own. It's adding up.
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    Jul 10, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
    Emesis54 said75% would be a tremendous help. It's partially because of scholarships, but the lifestyle change is appealing to me. I want to do more with myself than what I'm doing now. I want to get away. Travel. Do something worthwhile with myself and help out a cause bigger than my own. It's adding up.


    Well then it looks like you are in the right mind set. Just don't be disillusioned by the romantisied version of the military. It is a lot of work, will little praise.
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 said
    Emesis54 said75% would be a tremendous help. It's partially because of scholarships, but the lifestyle change is appealing to me. I want to do more with myself than what I'm doing now. I want to get away. Travel. Do something worthwhile with myself and help out a cause bigger than my own. It's adding up.


    Well then it looks like you are in the right mind set. Just don't be disillusioned by the romantisied version of the military. It is a lot of work, will little praise.


    Right, right. I think I understand that. I've had some friends in the military tell me about it. It's a hard decision to make, as I enjoy having the freedom I do now... but hard circumstances call for hard choices. So... we'll see.
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:08 PM GMT
    That's really ballsy of you. I feel like it's only for the right people but it sounds like you are ready for anything and willing to take the challenge head on so why not? Do what's best for you man, thanks for serving if you do, and best of luck icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:14 PM GMT
    running11 saidThat's really ballsy of you. I feel like it's only for the right people but it sounds like you are ready for anything and willing to take the challenge head on so why not? Do what's best for you man, thanks for serving if you do, and best of luck icon_smile.gif


    Thanks for the encouragement! It feels rather ballsy.
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:43 PM GMT
    I got into the Air Force through AFROTC. No college payments. If that's what you want to do, all power to you. You will find that the military officer corps (at least the Air Force) is based on a hierarchy of yes men, and original thought is not encouraged. You unquestioningly support your commander, and hope that he is doing well by his commander, no one rocks the boat, and that's how one's career advances. And to get high up, you have to be a pilot, and if there is no war going on, your chances of a career (or even being able to stay in for the 20 years) are really slim if you are not an academy graduate. (If they put you through medical school and you become a doctor, you can stay and have a reasonable career.) If you consider it as a career, be forewarned that DOD has plans afoot to eliminate or drastically cut back on the 20-year pension progarm.
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
    Don't know if I'm too old for the Air Force myself, but its one of my choices on how to get the gfunc out of here! Would love to go back to school and have such a big portion of it paid; aside from more specialized training I can get for in and out of the Air Force.
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    Jul 10, 2012 8:16 PM GMT
    JR_RJ saidDon't know if I'm too old for the Air Force myself, but its one of my choices on how to get the gfunc out of here! Would love to go back to school and have such a big portion of it paid; aside from more specialized training I can get for in and out of the Air Force.


    I think you may still be able to join. It won't hurt to talk to a recruiter...
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    Jul 10, 2012 9:11 PM GMT
    Suetonius saidI got into the Air Force through AFROTC. No college payments. If that's what you want to do, all power to you. You will find that the military officer corps (at least the Air Force) is based on a hierarchy of yes men, and original thought is not encouraged. You unquestioningly support your commander, and hope that he is doing well by his commander, no one rocks the boat, and that's how one's career advances. And to get high up, you have to be a pilot, and if there is no war going on, your chances of a career (or even being able to stay in for the 20 years) are really slim if you are not an academy graduate. (If they put you through medical school and you become a doctor, you can stay and have a reasonable career.) If you consider it as a career, be forewarned that DOD has plans afoot to eliminate or drastically cut back on the 20-year pension progarm.


    I was a Naval Officer.. largely similar but I did get to 20 years, was not a yes man and managed to stay my 20. It was a VERY satisfying career and I would do it again. You do have to be the right kind of person to enjoy and excel in a military environment. From what you have said, I think you can definitely do it (its not hard). Like already mentioned it is A LOT of long days, hard days and many many of them spent away from those you love. GOOD LUCK! I say GO FOR IT!
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    Jul 10, 2012 9:16 PM GMT
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    Jul 10, 2012 9:27 PM GMT
    I decided to go through the AF to pay for school. I can tell you now that if you are hoping to attend classes in your off time, good luck with that. Your recruiter will tell you its easy to go to classes, however its actually the opposite. After you get done with tech school or what ever route you through any class will have to wait until AFTER any upgrade training. I my self was a flight line guy so my hours were 12 hours sometimes more, and the last thing I wanted to do was to go to a class where I was most likely going to fall asleep.

    after about a year of service it opens you up to use the GI Bill, and legislation was just granted that you can use that benefit while you are active duty. However it will be at a reduced rate.

    In short there are several ways to pay for school through the military, however your time will be very limited, and any thing that is military related has priority that means any TDY's, Deployment etc...

    Good luck on your decision.


    EDIT: if you do go into the military for school take into account your yearly EPR or OPR, has a section for education and in order for you to get above a 3 (average) you have to have had some education with in that year. SO my suggestion is to do CLEP and DANTES tests so you can get credit with out the class. They are free for all service members, just be warned that not all accredited Universities and colleges accept these as legit credits.
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    Jul 10, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    I got two siblings that were enlistee's and one that went in as a officer.

    My brother that went in as a Air Force Officer (he is also gay); he is very satisfied with his career choice. In hindsight, If I had the life choice to make I would do the ROTC program and would prefer entering the military as a commissioned officer than a enlistee. My siblings that were enlistee's though they don't regret their decisions to enlist had a hard time overall. Besides, the Officer Training Corps will be geared toward your chosen academic goals (or where they need you within those academic goals).

    Do the ROTC route if you can even if they only pay 75%, I believe it would be more rewarding then getting stuck cleaning toilets or getting stuck with some mediocre task you may end regretting only performed by membership of lower ranks.

    Best of Luck!!!icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 10, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    rondan saidI decided to go through the AF to pay for school. I can tell you now that if you are hoping to attend classes in your off time, good luck with that. Your recruiter will tell you its easy to go to classes, however its actually the opposite. After you get done with tech school or what ever route you through any class will have to wait until AFTER any upgrade training. I my self was a flight line guy so my hours were 12 hours sometimes more, and the last thing I wanted to do was to go to a class where I was most likely going to fall asleep.

    after about a year of service it opens you up to use the GI Bill, and legislation was just granted that you can use that benefit while you are active duty. However it will be at a reduced rate.

    In short there are several ways to pay for school through the military, however your time will be very limited, and any thing that is military related has priority that means any TDY's, Deployment etc...

    Good luck on your decision.

    Everything he said was accurate. Going to school while active duty will be very hard though not impossible.
  • MisterT

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    Jul 10, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
    JR_RJ saidDon't know if I'm too old for the Air Force myself, but its one of my choices on how to get the gfunc out of here! Would love to go back to school and have such a big portion of it paid; aside from more specialized training I can get for in and out of the Air Force.


    It depends on branch and whether reserve or active duty. I think AF you you have to enter by 28 to be active duty, but can be up to 34 to enter reserves.

    I think you can get into army active as old as 42, and possibly navy.

    Best way to get current info is to talk to a recruiter.

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    Jul 11, 2012 3:53 PM GMT
    Thanks for all the responses. I'll keep you guys' comments in mind as I gather more info and come to a final decision.
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:54 PM GMT
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    Jul 11, 2012 7:17 PM GMT
    MisterT said
    JR_RJ saidDon't know if I'm too old for the Air Force myself, but its one of my choices on how to get the gfunc out of here! Would love to go back to school and have such a big portion of it paid; aside from more specialized training I can get for in and out of the Air Force.


    It depends on branch and whether reserve or active duty. I think AF you you have to enter by 28 to be active duty, but can be up to 34 to enter reserves.

    I think you can get into army active as old as 42, and possibly navy.

    Best way to get current info is to talk to a recruiter.

    Thanks for the info! Will do. Got all them in one centralized location. If not, maybe Crab Fishing is in my future... yeah, I'm not cut out for the calm back woods for more than a vacation... I need adventure and something out of my comfort zone to compensate! icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 19, 2012 8:18 PM GMT
    Thank you guys for all the responses whenever I first posted this.

    Looks like it's not going to work out.
    Kinda depressed right now.

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  • Borski1992

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    Jul 19, 2012 8:27 PM GMT
    Why not?
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    Jul 19, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidI have!!! And in my case, the military only ended up paying for about 75% of my tuition. If you enlist, don't do it for the money. It really is a lifestyle adjustment so be ready for that. It's not a 9-5 job.

    Thank you! I'm glad someone beat me to saying that!
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    Jul 19, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
    Emesis54 saidI'm looking into applying for the AFROTC program at the college I attend. Has anyone on here gone the military route to pay for school, or just in general? Any advice?


    depending on the detachment you are going into, it can be somewhat of a popularity contest, or a merit achievement board.. I'd say scout the detachment, and look for "areas of interest" this means what is the current cadre looking for in their cadets. From there make your assessment to either be a subtle suck-up or an eager volunteer. Main thing all detachments are looking for is "leadership" so when you are doing group efforts be sure to shine in your own accord. This means

    Help you peers (Great supporter)
    Lead you peers (Great leader)

    to them leadership isn't measured by much you show off, but rather how well you perform under pressure, from your environment and peers. They will also see how well you follow orders (this is were the supportive side comes out).

    hope this helps
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    Jul 19, 2012 8:34 PM GMT
    JR_RJ saidDon't know if I'm too old for the Air Force myself, but its one of my choices on how to get the gfunc out of here! Would love to go back to school and have such a big portion of it paid; aside from more specialized training I can get for in and out of the Air Force.
    Nope you aint too old.. I am though!icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 19, 2012 8:35 PM GMT
    Borski1992 saidWhy not?


    Long story. Stupid things of the past. I feel like throwing a computer across the room like in the animated gif from my last comment.