How a guy who likes guys should be?

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    Jul 11, 2012 10:21 AM GMT
    So I've watched the Documentary "the butch factor" and unlike lesbians, gay guys seem to have many hang ups. Masculinity in society in general seems to not only be celebrated but worshiped and anything remotely feminine in society is classified a weaker or lesser, what are your thoughts on this issue?
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    Jul 11, 2012 10:40 AM GMT
    It's sexism, plain and simple.
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    Jul 11, 2012 10:42 AM GMT
    I'd like to see dontknowwhy and Anduru get together!icon_cool.gif
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    Jul 11, 2012 10:43 AM GMT
    ozgreenguy saidI'd like to see dontknowwhy and Anduru get together!icon_cool.gif
    I have a boyfriend though.
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    Jul 11, 2012 11:29 AM GMT
    ozgreenguy saidI'd like to see dontknowwhy and Anduru get together!icon_cool.gif


    There's a real combination......icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 11, 2012 11:35 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    ozgreenguy saidI'd like to see dontknowwhy and Anduru get together!icon_cool.gif
    I have a boyfriend though.

    Whoops my bad - do you have a photo together?
  • Bunjamon

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    Jul 11, 2012 11:38 AM GMT
    There is no "right" way to be. There is a place in this world for all gay men, no matter how you feel inside, and the increase in internalized gay homophobia, manifested in the, "I'm super straight acting and only go for the same," nonsense is contributing to gay kids feeling alone just as much as the straight bullies are. The theater kid is no less a man than the football kid, and no less desirable.

    Forget the "should," and be yourself.
  • BmwKid92

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    Jul 11, 2012 12:40 PM GMT
    C'mon be real.... i bet that theater kid has a lot of cloths doesnt know how to change a tire and could care less. while that football player goes hunting with his dad and works on a farm.

    #keepit100#obvious#facepalm#uselesshashtag#imfaketwittering
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    Jul 11, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
    just wait till you see the Adonis factor.
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    Jul 11, 2012 1:33 PM GMT


    The OP said, "So I've watched the Documentary "the butch factor" and unlike lesbians, gay guys seem to have many hang ups."

    I suggest spending time on lesbian sites. Just as many hang-ups, but different. icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 11, 2012 1:43 PM GMT
    Anduru said
    ozgreenguy saidI'd like to see dontknowwhy and Anduru get together!icon_cool.gif
    I have a boyfriend though.
    "though"???
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 11, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
    That's what they all say. But in reality most gays turn into huge flamers the second you get a drink in them, soooo I'd say it's just a projection of a vocal minority within the community.... And they need to lighten up.


    Notably the straight-acting guys have less to say and are more likely to post faceless pics and be the dl. Not really masculine, if you consider bravery a masculine trait.
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    Jul 11, 2012 2:12 PM GMT
    pf008 saidI tend to be at my "straightest" (i know that sounds lame) right after I cum. I don't want any guys near me period and all I can think is " that's never happening again". So I think a lot of the way we act is based on our sexual drive, or at least plays a large part , in my experience anyway. We are so much more ourselves when thats not a factor.


    So you're actually trying to argue your "true self" is this straight dude because you're not interested in sex immediately after you ejaculate?
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    Jul 11, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
    I agree, that's pretty odd. Some issues there could use unpacking....

    Ariodante said
    pf008 saidI tend to be at my "straightest" (i know that sounds lame) right after I cum. I don't want any guys near me period and all I can think is " that's never happening again". So I think a lot of the way we act is based on our sexual drive, or at least plays a large part , in my experience anyway. We are so much more ourselves when thats not a factor.


    So you're actually trying to argue your "true self" is this straight dude because you're not interested in sex immediately after you ejaculate?
  • BardBear

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    Jul 11, 2012 2:50 PM GMT
    pf008 saidshouldn't have to be anything but yourself. If you're faking it, it's obvious.


    Bingo. Why worry about 'how you should be?' Just be yourself. It's a concept many in the world don't seem to get.

    Peace,
    Bardy
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 11, 2012 3:06 PM GMT
    pf008 saidNo I'm trying to say a lot of how we act can be a product of our sex drive, maybe I'm wording it wrong. We tend to put on a front when we want something. You know how they say to masturbate before a date so sex won't be a factor and you'll act more civilized? I think that's true at least for me. I'm definitely not straight but I guess I act more straight when I'm least horny, sorry if that doesn't make sense I'm tired


    Why would you masturbate before a date if after you cum you don't want to be anywhere near men? You should be more of a sex starved ravenous beast on your dates.
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:17 PM GMT
    k1ng saidC'mon be real.... i bet that theater kid has a lot of cloths doesnt know how to change a tire and could care less. while that football player goes hunting with his dad and works on a farm.

    #keepit100#obvious#facepalm#uselesshashtag#imfaketwittering


    fuck that. I know a TON of straight guys who don't know shit about their cars and I have a sister who's practically a lesbian she's so butch and she doesn't even know how to change a tire! The automatic association of so-called "masculine" traits to certain people is a perfect example of what is hurting the younger generation.

    I work at a racetrack and one of my coworkers (a perfect specimen of a man...but i digress) was football captain, was on the wrestling team and is at university studying kinesiology. He grew up on a farm out in the country and guess what? beyond changing a tire he knows NOTHING about cars and has NO DESIRE to know anything more about them than he already does.

    I went hunting when I was younger. I never really got into it so I stopped. But I did it, and I wasn't that bad a shot either.

    There is such a thing as being "multi-faceted" and when society starts putting THAT on a pedestal instead of the baloney its spewing right now, life's going to get a whole lot better icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:50 PM GMT
    ozgreenguy said
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    ozgreenguy saidI'd like to see dontknowwhy and Anduru get together!icon_cool.gif
    I have a boyfriend though.
    Whoops my bad - do you have a photo together?
    Yeah, in my private pics because people were making rude comments towards him and I don't take that shit.
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:52 PM GMT
    JR_RJ said
    Anduru said
    ozgreenguy saidI'd like to see dontknowwhy and Anduru get together!icon_cool.gif
    I have a boyfriend though.
    "though"???
    It would be physically possible for us to go out on a date but I am in a monogamous relationship and therefore choose not to pursue that.
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:52 PM GMT
    be yourself, thats what matters.
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:53 PM GMT
    pf008 saidI can't believe something I said is being taken completely the wrong way yet again. Leave it to the gays to make a mountain.
    Fuck off with that ignorant shit.
    and to think I was going to treat you with dignity because your AIDS story was so inspiring.
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    Jul 11, 2012 7:16 PM GMT
    It really depends on the individual...

    I have more feminine friends but that's just how they are.

    What I can't stand is when people try and act more feminine (or more masculine for that matter) than they actually are to fit a certain mold.

    Just fricken be yourself.
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    Jul 11, 2012 7:17 PM GMT
    calguy456 saidjust wait till you see the Adonis factor.


    I really didn't like the Adonis factor - I feel like it was meant to show the lengths that gay men will go to to fit into a certain box, but it almost glamorized it in a way. The group of guys talking about starvation dieting and all of that...it was sort of depressing to watch.
  • disasterpiece

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    Jul 11, 2012 7:30 PM GMT
    A guy who likes guy should be himself. As everybody else.

    And I also think the masculine VS feminine debate goes way beyond the LGBT community and touches the whole society.