Health or vanity?

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    Jul 11, 2012 10:50 AM GMT
    I understand that cardio exercise is an important part of staying healthy, but what about gaining muscle? Does that actually help your health or is it simply useful for being strong and vain? If it is helpful to your health, is there not a point at which you reach peak health and don't need to gain more muscle to be healthier?

    I'm just wondering because I want to know if I can just be skinny & fabulous or if it's more beneficial to be a meathead.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 11, 2012 1:28 PM GMT
    I throw up when I feel fat.




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    Jul 11, 2012 1:39 PM GMT
    Anduru, some men are into fitness and the body beautiful just as you are into fashion.

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    Jul 11, 2012 1:39 PM GMT
    I'm no longer talking to the man in the mirror.icon_cry.gificon_cry.gif
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    Jul 11, 2012 1:40 PM GMT
    Weight training helps improve bone density .
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    Jul 11, 2012 2:03 PM GMT
    meninlove saidAnduru, some men are into fitness and the body beautiful just as you are into fashion.

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    Exactly. I don't think of myself as vain for pursuing perfect definition. I'm an artwork in progress... Plus if you focus only fashion you won't look good naked.icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 11, 2012 2:08 PM GMT
    It isn't just about packing on size. Weight training can be very beneficial. I do it to improve and keep the balance in my lower body so that I can run. Also building muscles in my legs helps for those long runs or on hills. There are definitely the vanity muscles that guys seem to go crazy on, but weight training definitely translates into having a healthy active life.
  • Jasonblue

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    Jul 11, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
    Good for bone density and your metabolism. The more muscle mass you have, the more calories you burn, even while resting.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 11, 2012 2:16 PM GMT
    Every guy has to admit that having muscles makes them look good and feel better about themselves

    BUT there is factual evidence that having more muscle mass will not only help in raising your metabolism ..... a pound of muscle needs more energy than a pound of fat
    Thus making it easier to lose weight
    and also protects your bones and organs in future years

    So the answer to your question is it's both
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    Jul 11, 2012 2:18 PM GMT
    Both, Anduru. And of course there is a point when you don't "need" more muscle. Maybe you should be lightly muscled and fabulous.icon_wink.gif
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 11, 2012 2:21 PM GMT
    A good combination of weight-training and cardio exercise is best. What works for me is an hour at the gym working out --- 40 minutes weight-training, 20 minutes intense cardio.
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    Jul 11, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
    It's both for me. I like the way it looks in me and I love the health benefits. A routine of heavy lifting and circuit lifting has made my heart and vines stronger. Plus I like the fact that if I get some horrible disease that I will have an extra 30 to 50 pounds of padded protection.

    My ex just went into the hospital. Lost 5 pounds yesterday, which would happen to any of us because of dehydration but for him it dropped his weight to 140. I pray to God he gets better soon because his body is just too weak to sustain much more loss. Over the past decade he has become an anti-lifter, but I think he now realizes the importance of it and how it can help extend time.


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    Jul 11, 2012 2:40 PM GMT
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:06 PM GMT
    It is more beneficial to be a muscle meathead. Good points made above. weight training improves muscle mass and bone density among other benefits. A proper weight training does have an aerobic component. All this will serve you better in the long run.

    Your body is developed by around 25. From 25-50 is slow muscle decline. After 50 is rapid muscle decline with loss of bone density, motor skills.. etc. Working out helps develop and maintain those functions in addition to other benefits.

    You cant reverse the clock but you can slow it down. But if you do nothing then don't expect anything in return. The older you get the harder it gets especially if you are a sedentary person.

    Keep in mind not every one will turn into a muscle meathead. Different people have different goals. You can be gym-fit skinny, if thats your goal. This still takes a lot of dedication and consistent diet & training to get there. Then once you are there you need to work to stay there. You cant simply work out for a year or two and then give up for whatever reason. De-condition starts to set in with a couple of weeks.

    The question you need to ask yourself is 'How can I stay fabulous with an aging unhealthy body that wont cooperate with me and doesn't look fabulous'
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 11, 2012 3:10 PM GMT
    ^^^^

    Pretty good advice actually.
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
    meninlove saidAnduru, some men are into fitness and the body beautiful just as you are into fashion. icon_wink.gif
    Fashion isn't about vanity unless you make it about vanity. That's why I'm asking if fitness is the same.
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:40 PM GMT
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    meninlove saidAnduru, some men are into fitness and the body beautiful just as you are into fashion. icon_wink.gif
    Fashion isn't about vanity unless you make it about vanity. That's why I'm asking if fitness is the same.


    I never said a word about vanity.
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:41 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidA good combination of weight-training and cardio exercise is best. What works for me is an hour at the gym working out --- 40 minutes weight-training, 20 minutes intense cardio.
    How many times per week?
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:41 PM GMT
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    meninlove saidAnduru, some men are into fitness and the body beautiful just as you are into fashion. icon_wink.gif
    Fashion isn't about vanity unless you make it about vanity. That's why I'm asking if fitness is the same.
    I never said a word about vanity.
    The question is about vanity.
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    Jul 11, 2012 3:49 PM GMT
    MA3000 saidI say having your head over the toilet is 10x healthier than being obese.
    Obesity isn't on the table for discussion.
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    Jul 11, 2012 4:02 PM GMT
    MA3000 saidI say having your head over the toilet is 10x healthier than being obese.


    Well you would be very wrong. Anorexia kills many people very young while obesity usually takes decades to do its work. Both of them suffer terrible quality of life in the mean time. I'm not even sure why I'm bothering to respond to such a stupid comment except I really think you believe it.
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    Jul 11, 2012 4:04 PM GMT
    Anduru said
    MA3000 saidI say having your head over the toilet is 10x healthier than being obese.
    Obesity isn't on the table for discussion.


    That's too bad, because there are many guys here that got into fitness specifically to address being very overweight, and the health hazards and social ostracism that goes along with being obese. icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 11, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
    Have red numerous articles and books over the years to say that strength training is extremely important to good health.
    * It is the ONLY form of exercise that maintains bone density, muscle mass, tendon strength, and hormone levels (especially testosterone and growth hormone) as we age. All the cardio, swimming, soccer, or anything else for that matter will not do this.
    * A heavy cardio routine is not necessary, and potentially detrimental. Some cardio intensive exercise, like endurance and competitive biking, result in brittle bones that fracture easily. Many forms of cardio damage joints, especially in the lower body.
    * Moreover, weight lifters who do little or no cardio have significantly stronger hearts than those who never exercise.
    * As far as gaining too much muscle, everyone seems to have their limit. Its just a matter of learning to be satisfied at a certain point.
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    Jul 11, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    Let me see if I get this right? You want to be a man with skinny arms and legs and chest with no muscle .... so you would need someone with muscle in your life so they can do all your heavy lifting for you ... like lifting up a heavy glass of wine to your lips ... and what exactly would you do in life with a skinny body that can do no sort of heavy lifting (otherwise you might throw your back out, trip and fall and break a hip ... etc.) I think there is a lot of reasons to have well built muscles for a healthy life.