Drudge - Condi the front runner !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    "ROMNEY NARROWS VP CHOICES; CONDI EMERGES AS FRONTRUNNER
    Thu Jul 12 2012 19:30:01 ET

    **Exclusive**

    Late Thursday evening, Mitt Romney's presidential campaign launched a new fundraising drive, 'Meet The VP' -- just as Romney himself has narrowed the field of candidates to a handful, sources reveal.

    And a surprise name is now near the top of the list: Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice!

    The timing of the announcement is now set for 'coming weeks'.

    MORE

    It was Condi who received two standing ovations at Romney's Utah retreat a few weeks ago, and everyone left with her name on their lips.

    Rice made an extended argument for American leadership in the world.

    In recent days, she emailed supporters:

    "2012 is perhaps a turning point for the United States."

    "The upcoming elections loom as one of the most important in my lifetime," she warned. "I'm very often asked to speak about our current foreign policy and the challenges that lie before us. However, we, as a country, are not going to be able to address any of those international challenges unless we first get our domestic house in order."

    Developing...
    "
  • creature

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    Jul 13, 2012 5:19 AM GMT
    That Romney is getting dumber by the minute. Condi may energize the conservative base, but not the moderates.

    If she is picked, Romney will no doubt hand President Obama his election.

    I guess you can't fix stupid.
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    Jul 13, 2012 12:58 PM GMT
    Does Miss MushroomCloud support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage as Willard does?
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    What happened John?
    The 'smuggness' comment you used get you?
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    Jul 13, 2012 1:22 PM GMT
    creature saidThat Romney is getting dumber by the minute. Condi may energize the conservative base, but not the moderates.

    If she is picked, Romney will no doubt hand President Obama his election.

    I guess you can't fix stupid.


    I could not disagree more. Condi could very well be the one V.P. choice that could clinch the election for Romney. I do not expect her to be the choice, but what a brilliant one she would be --- not to mention an incredible Vice President. One of the reasons I don't think Condi will likely be the pick (besides the fact that I don't think she really wants the job) is that she would so outshine Romney on many levels that it could become a distraction. It's too bad she isn't the Presidential nominee. Regardless, the Condi / Biden debate would be fun to watch.
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    Jul 13, 2012 1:24 PM GMT
    Well after all, it is the republican way to recirculate the Neo Con war crowd because we didn't learn a god damn thing from the IRAQ FAILURE enabled in part by Rice.

    The Israeli far right and the Israeli Firster Neo Cons over here are pushing hard for a repeat of that performance, this time against Iran, so we certainly would do well to get another LOBBY LAP DOG LIKE ROMNEY TO DO THE BIDDING OF THOSE WHO ARE PAYING THE HIGHEST BID. LOL !!
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    Jul 13, 2012 1:26 PM GMT
    realifedad said Well after all, it is the republican way to recirculate the Neo Con war crowd because we didn't learn a god damn thing from the IRAQ FAILURE enabled in part by Rice.

    The Israeli far right and the Israeli Firster Neo Cons over here are pushing hard for a repeat of that performance, this time against Iran, so we certainly would do well to get another LOBBY LAP DOG LIKE ROMNEY TO DO THE BIDDING OF THOSE WHO ARE PAYING THE HIGHEST BID. LOL !!




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    Jul 13, 2012 1:31 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    creature saidThat Romney is getting dumber by the minute. Condi may energize the conservative base, but not the moderates.

    If she is picked, Romney will no doubt hand President Obama his election.

    I guess you can't fix stupid.


    I could not disagree more. Condi could very well be the one V.P. choice that could clinch the election for Romney. I do not expect her to be the choice, but what a brilliant one she would be --- not to mention an incredible Vice President. One of the reasons I don't think Condi will likely be the pick (besides the fact that I don't think she really wants the job) is that she would so outshine Romney on many levels that it could become a distraction. It's too bad she isn't the Presidential nominee. Regardless, the Condi / Biden debate would be fun to watch.




    Does Miss MushroomCloud support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage as Willard does?
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    realifedad said Well after all, it is the republican way to recirculate the Neo Con war crowd because we didn't learn a god damn thing from the IRAQ FAILURE enabled in part by Rice.

    The Israeli far right and the Israeli Firster Neo Cons over here are pushing hard for a repeat of that performance, this time against Iran, so we certainly would do well to get another LOBBY LAP DOG LIKE ROMNEY TO DO THE BIDDING OF THOSE WHO ARE PAYING THE HIGHEST BID. LOL !!




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    But you have to admit there definately is some truth behind the cynicism, well actually quite a bit of truth.
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    Jul 13, 2012 1:51 PM GMT
    DalTX said
    Does Miss MushroomCloud support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage as Willard does?


    You've asked the question twice now...are you too dense to know how to use a simple Google search?
    To answer your question, she supports Gay civil unions, not gay marriage. In her own words:

    Rice: I have lots of respect for people on both sides of this divide, because there are really hard issues. I don’t ever want anybody to be denied rights within our country. I happen to think marriage is between a man and a woman. That’s tradition, and I believe that that’s the right answer. But perhaps we will decide that there needs to be some way for people to express their desire to live together through civil union. I think the country, if we can keep the volume down, will come to good answers.
  • DalTX

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    Jul 13, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DalTX said
    Does Miss MushroomCloud support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage as Willard does?


    You've asked the question twice now...are you too dense to know how to use a simple Google search?
    To answer your question, she supports Gay civil unions, not gay marriage. In her own words:

    Rice: I have lots of respect for people on both sides of this divide, because there are really hard issues. I don’t ever want anybody to be denied rights within our country. I happen to think marriage is between a man and a woman. That’s tradition, and I believe that that’s the right answer. But perhaps we will decide that there needs to be some way for people to express their desire to live together through civil union. I think the country, if we can keep the volume down, will come to good answers.


    Woops, must have hit a nerve.
    Sorry Mr "We love Jan" - I know you're a big fan of MushroomCloud and
    I thought you might want to share your knowledge.
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    Jul 13, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
    DalTX said
    I know you're a big fan of MushroomCloud and I thought you might want to share your knowledge.



    Since clearly you have none of your own icon_rolleyes.gif
  • DalTX

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    Jul 13, 2012 2:11 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DalTX said
    I know you're a big fan of MushroomCloud and I thought you might want to share your knowledge.



    Since clearly you have none of your own icon_rolleyes.gif



    We're depending on you WeLoveJan, keep up the good work!!
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    Jul 13, 2012 2:13 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DalTX said
    Does Miss MushroomCloud support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage as Willard does?


    You've asked the question twice now...are you too dense to know how to use a simple Google search?
    To answer your question, she supports Gay civil unions, not gay marriage. In her own words:

    Rice: I have lots of respect for people on both sides of this divide, because there are really hard issues. I don’t ever want anybody to be denied rights within our country. I happen to think marriage is between a man and a woman. That’s tradition, and I believe that that’s the right answer. But perhaps we will decide that there needs to be some way for people to express their desire to live together through civil union. I think the country, if we can keep the volume down, will come to good answers.






    We just wanted to hear you spell it out !!


    Are you really pleased with recirculating the War Mongers who brought us the travesty of the Iraq War ? Are these your best choice for representing the US on the World stage ? I THINK NOT !!!!

    The republican party only see's what fits into their ideology and wants to believe.
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    Jul 13, 2012 2:24 PM GMT
    realifedad said
    Are you really pleased with recirculating the War Mongers who brought us the travesty of the Iraq War ? Are these your best choice for representing the US on the World stage ? I THINK NOT !!!!

    The republican party only see's what fits into their ideology and wants to believe.


    RLD, you certainly are entitled to your opinion, I just don't happen to agree --- not even a little bit. Judging by the numerous threads you start that very few people respond to, I suspect you are preaching to an audience of 2 or 3. As for Conde Rice, I think she was a superb Secretary of State, with enormous respect around the world, who represented the USA with integrity, dignity, and class. It is my opinion that the USA would be lucky to have this woman serve our country in any capacity she is willing to. As I said before, if Mitt Romney actually makes a brave and brilliant choice like Condi, the Democrats will have a whole lot to worry about regarding this election.
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    creature saidThat Romney is getting dumber by the minute. Condi may energize the conservative base, but not the moderates.

    If she is picked, Romney will no doubt hand President Obama his election.

    I guess you can't fix stupid.


    I could not disagree more. Condi could very well be the one V.P. choice that could clinch the election for Romney. I do not expect her to be the choice, but what a brilliant one she would be --- not to mention an incredible Vice President. One of the reasons I don't think Condi will likely be the pick (besides the fact that I don't think she really wants the job) is that she would so outshine Romney on many levels that it could become a distraction. It's too bad she isn't the Presidential nominee. Regardless, the Condi / Biden debate would be fun to watch.


    I truly don't think she wants to do it just like Dick Cheney didn't want to do it, but to effectively govern, there's your best type. Condi on the ticket would give Romney enough of a bump that it would almost insure that he would have it and ‘have it’ with someone who would be a huge help to Romney with international affairs .... Romney’s weakness and any governors’ weakness.
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    creature saidThat Romney is getting dumber by the minute. Condi may energize the conservative base, but not the moderates.

    If she is picked, Romney will no doubt hand President Obama his election.

    I guess you can't fix stupid.


    I could not disagree more. Condi could very well be the one V.P. choice that could clinch the election for Romney. I do not expect her to be the choice, but what a brilliant one she would be --- not to mention an incredible Vice President. One of the reasons I don't think Condi will likely be the pick (besides the fact that I don't think she really wants the job) is that she would so outshine Romney on many levels that it could become a distraction. It's too bad she isn't the Presidential nominee. Regardless, the Condi / Biden debate would be fun to watch.


    I truly don't think she wants to do it just like Dick Cheney didn't want to do it, but to effectively govern, there's your best type. Condi on the ticket would give Romney enough of a bump that it would almost insure that he would have it and ‘have it’ with someone who would be a huge help to Romney with international affairs .... Romney’s weakness and any governors’ weakness.




    My god have you two ever gotten 'drunk on the tea', you'd both gladly repeat the mistakes of the Bush war years, You must not let anything but FALSE new sink into your brains. You're both 'impermiable' by facts that make your choices the worst possible. Carry on though !!! All is well in the world of republican blindness
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    realifedad said
    freedomisntfree said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    creature saidThat Romney is getting dumber by the minute. Condi may energize the conservative base, but not the moderates.

    If she is picked, Romney will no doubt hand President Obama his election.

    I guess you can't fix stupid.


    I could not disagree more. Condi could very well be the one V.P. choice that could clinch the election for Romney. I do not expect her to be the choice, but what a brilliant one she would be --- not to mention an incredible Vice President. One of the reasons I don't think Condi will likely be the pick (besides the fact that I don't think she really wants the job) is that she would so outshine Romney on many levels that it could become a distraction. It's too bad she isn't the Presidential nominee. Regardless, the Condi / Biden debate would be fun to watch.


    I truly don't think she wants to do it just like Dick Cheney didn't want to do it, but to effectively govern, there's your best type. Condi on the ticket would give Romney enough of a bump that it would almost insure that he would have it and ‘have it’ with someone who would be a huge help to Romney with international affairs .... Romney’s weakness and any governors’ weakness.




    My god have you two ever gotten 'drunk on the tea', you'd both gladly repeat the mistakes of the Bush war years, You must not let anything but FALSE new sink into your brains. You're both 'impermiable' by facts that make your choices the worst possible. Carry on though !!! All is well in the world of republican blindness


    "impermiable" huh? Kewl ! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Go Bibi
    bomb Iran
    Go AIPAC
    yeah 41 of 54

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    Jul 13, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
    I believe that selecting anyone who served in the Bush administration would be pure political poison. It would allow Obama and his operatives to run against the Bush administration (again) rather than on Obama's record.

    I also believe that the selection of any female as candidate for VP would bring up comparisons with Sarah Palin and the same sort of personal smears. We all know how well that went for the Republicans...

    In Romney's position, I'd go for a strong economically conservative congressman, or a governor of a state that's doing well economically. To keep the independents on board, I'd avoid the religious fundies.
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    Jul 13, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
    rkyjockdn saidI believe that selecting anyone who served in the Bush administration would be pure political poison. It would allow Obama and his operatives to run against the Bush administration (again) rather than on Obama's record.


    I understand your thinking. However, I don't happen to agree because taking out virtually EVERYBODY who served in the Bush administration in any capacity removes some very qualified good potential candidates. As specifically relating to Conde´ Rice, I suspect there are many in the GOP and among independents who, regardless of how they may now feel about Bush, still have enormous respect for Conde Rice. That being said, you can be sure that IF (and I'd agree it is a BIG if) Romney were to choose Conde Rice, they would have thoroughly gauged what the reaction might be to her as a choice prior to it happening.


    rkyjockdn saidI also believe that the selection of any female as candidate for VP would bring up comparisons with Sarah Palin and the same sort of personal smears. We all know how well that went for the Republicans...

    I would agree with you here on virtually ANY female choice other than Conde Rice. Her credentials pretty much run circles around any other female that could possibly be considered --- not to mention most men.
    rkyjockdn saidcongressman, or a governor of a state that's doing well economically. To keep the independents on board, I'd avoid the religious fundies.


    I agree on avoiding the religious fundies, however I think his V.P. choice would serve him better if it were someone that could beef up the foreign relations side of the ticket. I think Romney carries the economics aspect just fine. I also think his V.P. choice needs to be someone who is slightly less conservative on social issues --- Rice is at least "slightly pro choice" and in favor of "civil unions".
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    rkyjockdn saidI believe that selecting anyone who served in the Bush administration would be pure political poison. It would allow Obama and his operatives to run against the Bush administration (again) rather than on Obama's record.


    I understand your thinking. However, I don't happen to agree because taking out virtually EVERYBODY who served in the Bush administration in any capacity removes some very qualified good potential candidates. As specifically relating to Conde´ Rice, I suspect there are many in the GOP and among independents who, regardless of how they may now feel about Bush, still have enormous respect for Conde Rice. That being said, you can be sure that IF (and I'd agree it is a BIG if) Romney were to choose Conde Rice, they would have thoroughly gauged what the reaction might be to her as a choice prior to it happening.


    rkyjockdn saidI also believe that the selection of any female as candidate for VP would bring up comparisons with Sarah Palin and the same sort of personal smears. We all know how well that went for the Republicans...

    I would agree with you here on virtually ANY female choice other than Conde Rice. Her credentials pretty much run circles around any other female that could possibly be considered --- not to mention most men.



    I agree with you here. Other than the fact that she’s never held elective office, which would be considered by most, I think, as a good thing and far from a negative.
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    Jul 13, 2012 3:51 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    I agree with you here. Other than the fact that she’s never held elective office, which would be considered by most, I think, as a good thing and far from a negative.



    Precisely why this COULD be the reason, when asked if she would accept a V.P. nod, that she has consistently made comments like "I never even ran for student council" or "I'm not a politician". This is, in my opinion, one of her strongest selling points. She's NOT a politician, and yet she arguably has more experience on the world stage than most politicians. Her experience and expertise on a variety of fronts could be extremely valuable, and I suspect that Romney would tap into that.
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    freedomisntfree said
    I agree with you here. Other than the fact that she’s never held elective office, which would be considered by most, I think, as a good thing and far from a negative.



    Precisely why this COULD be the reason, when asked if she would accept a V.P. nod, that she has consistently made comments like "I never even ran for student council" or "I'm not a politician". This is, in my opinion, one of her strongest selling points. She's NOT a politician, and yet she arguably has more experience on the world stage than most politicians. Her experience and expertise on a variety of fronts could be extremely valuable, and I suspect that Romney would tap into that.


    This one comment probably more than any other really peaks my suspicion that she is indeed considering it.

    I do have some minor differences with her in that she’s not quite as hawkish as I would prefer plus far to the left of me on the abortion question, but I’d take her ... no question!
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    Jul 13, 2012 5:14 PM GMT
    "My vice presidential nominee will be pro-life," Willard Romney, February 21, 2012.
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    freedomisntfree said
    realifedad said
    freedomisntfree said
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    creature saidThat Romney is getting dumber by the minute. Condi may energize the conservative base, but not the moderates.

    If she is picked, Romney will no doubt hand President Obama his election.

    I guess you can't fix stupid.


    I could not disagree more. Condi could very well be the one V.P. choice that could clinch the election for Romney. I do not expect her to be the choice, but what a brilliant one she would be --- not to mention an incredible Vice President. One of the reasons I don't think Condi will likely be the pick (besides the fact that I don't think she really wants the job) is that she would so outshine Romney on many levels that it could become a distraction. It's too bad she isn't the Presidential nominee. Regardless, the Condi / Biden debate would be fun to watch.


    I truly don't think she wants to do it just like Dick Cheney didn't want to do it, but to effectively govern, there's your best type. Condi on the ticket would give Romney enough of a bump that it would almost insure that he would have it and ‘have it’ with someone who would be a huge help to Romney with international affairs .... Romney’s weakness and any governors’ weakness.




    My god have you two ever gotten 'drunk on the tea', you'd both gladly repeat the mistakes of the Bush war years, You must not let anything but FALSE new sink into your brains. You're both 'impermiable' by facts that make your choices the worst possible. Carry on though !!! All is well in the world of republican blindness


    "impermiable" huh? Kewl ! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Go Bibi
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    HMMM !! Only 'dart' throwing ? no response regarding repeating the Bush Iraq war travesty ?


    So all we get is more Lame "bomb Iran" type darts ? Have you no better reasoning other than willful blindness for who you back ?