Thoughts on the Libertarian Party?

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    Jul 13, 2012 3:54 PM GMT
    I know a LOT of people consider it a wasted vote to vote for the libertarian party, but does anyone actually support them? Their viewpoints on politics is like a mashup of conservative and liberal views.

    Any thoughts?

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    Jul 13, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
    I'm a libertarian. When it comes to voting I TEND to vote conservative, but not always. Most libertarians tend to vote conservative when it comes down to it, however, it depends on the individual and the circumstance of the election. Any candidate too extreme one way or the other is not a candidate I can support.
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    Jul 13, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
    I can identify with many libertarian values although I've never officially joined the Libertarian Party. I've given some thought to giving Gary Johnson my vote since he seems to be along the lines of what I'd support on most issues. I don't think it'd be a waste.

    In general I wish there were more interest in third parties such as the Libertarian Party or, hell, even the Green Party. I like to believe there are other systems of thought beyond the status quo. I mean, neither the Republicans nor the Democrats are exactly winning me over.
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    Jul 13, 2012 10:54 PM GMT
    I feel that a third or fourth party would get more involved if they actually allowed them to debate with the Democrats and Republicans. But the fact I do not like conservatives much... I tend to vote with the democrats.

    and HELL YES, my vote is going out to Gary Johnson!

    I would have liked the Ron Paul Revolution, but he is very radical.. and a hypocrate.
  • Webster666

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    Jul 14, 2012 12:09 AM GMT
    Libertarians are unrealistic.
    They don't want the government interfering in their lives.

    You gonna

    ---Pave the street, in front of your house ?
    ---Haul away all of your trash, every week ?
    ---Dig your own cess pool, to get rid of your sewage ?
    ---Dig your own well, so that you can have water ?
    ---Put out the fire, when your house is engulfed in flames ?
    ---Haul your own ass to the hospital when you're injured in a car wreck ?
    ---Die from an epidemic (like HIV/AIDS), rather than except government help from Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security Disability ?
    ---Support yourself, 100%, instead of accepting Social Security income ?
    ---Go after the bad guys, yourself, instead of calling the police ?
    ---Go after corporations, yourself, that pollute your air, water, and land ?
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    Jul 14, 2012 12:17 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidLibertarians are unrealistic.
    They don't want the government interfering in their lives.

    You gonna

    ---Pave the street, in front of your house ?
    ---Haul away all of your trash, every week ?
    ---Dig your own cess pool, to get rid of your sewage ?
    ---Dig your own well, so that you can have water ?
    ---Put out the fire, when your house is engulfed in flames ?
    ---Haul your own ass to the hospital when you're injured in a car wreck ?
    ---Die from an epidemic (like HIV/AIDS), rather than except government help from Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security Disability ?
    ---Support yourself, 100%, instead of accepting Social Security income ?
    ---Go after the bad guys, yourself, instead of calling the police ?
    ---Go after corporations, yourself, that pollute your air, water, and land ?



    A lot of what you say here I already do on the farm, or it is not an issue..

    Pave the streets? - Gravel road icon_biggrin.gif
    Haul trash away?- We have a trash pit in the back of the swamp to incinerate it
    Sewage?- Got it covered
    Well?- yes, we use well water

    As for the others, the libertarian party doesn't want to abolish ALL taxes, just the ones that people seem to be a waste. I can think of a few... Food taxes, cigarette txes, mobile home trailer taxes. They still are for scoial security income.

    The people still get the benefits, jsut without the burden of rediculous taxing.
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    Jul 14, 2012 6:33 AM GMT
    Gary Johnson was in the Denver Gay Pride Parade. Lots of Dem elected officials, not a GOP in sight.
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    Jul 15, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
    Farmjock said
    Webster666 saidLibertarians are unrealistic.
    They don't want the government interfering in their lives.

    You gonna

    ---Pave the street, in front of your house ?
    ---Haul away all of your trash, every week ?
    ---Dig your own cess pool, to get rid of your sewage ?
    ---Dig your own well, so that you can have water ?
    ---Put out the fire, when your house is engulfed in flames ?
    ---Haul your own ass to the hospital when you're injured in a car wreck ?
    ---Die from an epidemic (like HIV/AIDS), rather than except government help from Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security Disability ?
    ---Support yourself, 100%, instead of accepting Social Security income ?
    ---Go after the bad guys, yourself, instead of calling the police ?
    ---Go after corporations, yourself, that pollute your air, water, and land ?



    A lot of what you say here I already do on the farm, or it is not an issue..

    Pave the streets? - Gravel road icon_biggrin.gif
    Haul trash away?- We have a trash pit in the back of the swamp to incinerate it
    Sewage?- Got it covered
    Well?- yes, we use well water

    As for the others, the libertarian party doesn't want to abolish ALL taxes, just the ones that people seem to be a waste. I can think of a few... Food taxes, cigarette txes, mobile home trailer taxes. They still are for scoial security income.

    The people still get the benefits, jsut without the burden of rediculous taxing.


    Libertarians, unrealistic?
    Consider the ridiculous demands of both the Republican and Democratic parties.
    And look how that has got us into this financial mess we have today.
    Yeah, it's time for a Libertarian party to take over, start from scratch.
  • creature

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    Jul 15, 2012 1:29 AM GMT
    Meh.

    The impression I'm getting is that a lot of people are calling themselves Libertarian simply to escape the label of Republican. They typically vote for the same candidates that self-identified Republicans do, so what difference do they expect to see?
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    Jul 15, 2012 1:57 AM GMT
    I particularly liked the Ron Paul foreign Policy and I think has a lot of other good points, But in a lot of ways he goes to far for my liking against big ticket civil safety net matters like social security

    Our country desperately needs at least a 3rd party, the two party's we're stuck with are basically bought off and other than a few major things like civil safety nets, abortion and gay rights, we get the same basic bullshit from both parties. They're going to lean toward their paymasters and sadly over the last 10 years that means wars and interventionist foreign policy.
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    Jul 15, 2012 3:55 AM GMT
    realifedad said I particularly liked the Ron Paul foreign Policy and I think has a lot of other good points, But in a lot of ways he goes to far for my liking against big ticket civil safety net matters like social security

    Our country desperately needs at least a 3rd party, the two party's we're stuck with are basically bought off and other than a few major things like civil safety nets, abortion and gay rights, we get the same basic bullshit from both parties. They're going to lean toward their paymasters and sadly over the last 10 years that means wars and interventionist foreign policy.


    Hehe, I feel the same regarding Ron Paul. I was intrigued by him last year initially. I thought he had some interesting points on a few issues of interest, but as the campaign has gone on, I've just become more turned off by him. He's said some stupid things along the way.

    Gary Johnson has been interesting to follow especially since he switched to the Libertarian ticket. However, a few of his latest ads have been pretty corny and dumb to be completely honest, haha.
  • musclmed

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    Jul 15, 2012 5:01 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidLibertarians are unrealistic.
    They don't want the government interfering in their lives.

    You gonna

    ---Pave the street, in front of your house ?
    ---Haul away all of your trash, every week ?
    ---Dig your own cess pool, to get rid of your sewage ?
    ---Dig your own well, so that you can have water ?
    ---Put out the fire, when your house is engulfed in flames ?
    ---Haul your own ass to the hospital when you're injured in a car wreck ?
    ---Die from an epidemic (like HIV/AIDS), rather than except government help from Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security Disability ?
    ---Support yourself, 100%, instead of accepting Social Security income ?
    ---Go after the bad guys, yourself, instead of calling the police ?
    ---Go after corporations, yourself, that pollute your air, water, and land ?



    that is your definition. Its a very narrow and sophomoric view of libertarian views.