BelAmi Models Describe Horrors of a Gay Mediterranean Cruise In Their Lawsuit In US Federal Court Against RSVP Cruise Line

  • metta

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    Jul 14, 2012 5:33 AM GMT
    BelAmi Models Describe Horrors of a Gay Mediterranean Cruise In Their Lawsuit In US Federal Court Against RSVP Cruise Line

    http://www.estergoldberg.com/views_from_a_broad/2012/07/eleven-belami-models-describe-horrors-of-a-gay-mediterranean-cruise-in-their-lawsuit-in-us-federal-court-against-rsvp-cruise.html
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    Jul 14, 2012 6:02 AM GMT
    The exact circumstances as to why they forced them off the ship seem really murky and unspecific.
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    Jul 14, 2012 6:17 AM GMT
    I'm dying to know what kind of attention was "too much attention"?
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    Jul 14, 2012 6:25 AM GMT
    The links are in the article:

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/27/47853.htm

    ""Bel Ami models are well known among Bel Ami's viewing audience and easily identifiable," the complaint states. "Many of the ship's passengers recognized the models and rumors quickly circulated that Bel Ami was on board to film a movie. The young men received considerable attention from the other passengers, as one would expect. Passengers asked the models if they were shooting a pornographic film, but when the young men truthfully denied this, the passengers did not believe them."
    BAOL claims RSVP barred its crew from filming on the ship, despite the written agreement, and booted the models in Tunisia.
    The models say RSVP took their passports and threatened to confiscate their belongings and equipment if they did not leave the ship.
    "That evening more rumors circulated, and it became clear that RSVP had informed passengers that they were forcing the Bel Ami models from the ship," the complaint states.
    "Emboldened by RSVP's drastic measures and negative representation of the young men that was now being circulated, some passengers approached the young men and requested that they engage in sex for money. It was clear that the passengers now felt the young men were not worthy of even the most basic of human dignities. The young men of course refused these requests."
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    Jul 14, 2012 8:19 AM GMT
    ^^did i interpret that correctly...?

    it seems like that people did not get what they wanted so they stranded them, am i right?

    seems kind of a stupid reason.
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    Jul 14, 2012 9:55 AM GMT
    Had the passengers no decency? I, by contrast, would have provided shelter in my cabin for at least ONE of the guys! (Whichever one won the audition wouldn't have to face the cold, homophobic, Arabian night.)
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    Jul 14, 2012 10:01 AM GMT
    Era69er said^^did i interpret that correctly...?

    it seems like that people did not get what they wanted so they stranded them, am i right?

    seems kind of a stupid reason.


    That is exactly what I got out of the story.
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    Jul 14, 2012 10:13 AM GMT
    omg,who would doo these kind of shit to these adonis liked pretty boy,so cruel,they should sue these motherfuckers.icon_evil.gificon_evil.gif
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    Jul 14, 2012 10:38 AM GMT
    One of the gay cruise lines was recently forbidden access to Casablanca in Morocco because the landing of a boat load of queers would be an afront to Islam. I wonder if the passengers on that ship received a refund for not being able to make a stop in an obviously unfriendly country?

    Why do these companies that sponsor gay cruises continually plan cruise stops in gay unfriendly cities like St. Petersburg, Russia, where the mayor of that city has passed very strong anti gay legislation?

    Do these companies really give a shit about their gay customers or are they only interested in the additional money they collect from gay customers because they are willing to pay half again as much to go on a cruise that stops at the same ports of call as a non gay cruise?

    When will gay customers wake up and stop taking these outrageously expensive cruises?

    We have taken three non gay cruises, two in the Med and one in the Baltic and in every case the cruises were very gay friendly. On our first cruise, the program director planned several get togethers for the gay customers on board.

    The above story only underlines the lack of concern these gay cruise operators have for their customers and the hired talent.
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    Jul 14, 2012 11:05 AM GMT
    Cooper87 saidomg,who would doo these kind of shit to these adonis liked pretty boy,so cruel,they should sue these motherfuckers.icon_evil.gificon_evil.gif


    You seem to have missed the point of the article....
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    Jul 14, 2012 11:09 AM GMT
    it's yourname's fault cooper missed the pt of the thread. did u really HAVE 2 post this pic?

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    Jul 14, 2012 11:19 AM GMT
    maybe the army "recruited" them?
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    Jul 14, 2012 11:20 AM GMT
    LOL @ them being left in Tunisia. At least it's one of the more liberal Arab countries.

    It sounds like the plot of a bad porno icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 14, 2012 11:46 AM GMT
    metta8 saidBelAmi Models Describe Horrors of a Gay Mediterranean Cruise In Their Lawsuit In US Federal Court Against RSVP Cruise Line

    http://www.estergoldberg.com/views_from_a_broad/2012/07/eleven-belami-models-describe-horrors-of-a-gay-mediterranean-cruise-in-their-lawsuit-in-us-federal-court-against-rsvp-cruise.html


    I think that's horrible to do that to these men. Cause no harm. Put no one in danger.
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    Jul 14, 2012 11:53 AM GMT
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    Cooper87 saidomg,who would doo these kind of shit to these adonis liked pretty boy,so cruel,they should sue these motherfuckers.icon_evil.gificon_evil.gif

    Try to keep up, sweetie. icon_wink.gif

    "BelAmi Models Describe Horrors of a Gay Mediterranean Cruise In Their Lawsuit In US Federal Court Against RSVP Cruise Line"


    Give him the benefit of the doubt: I emphasized should--one way the sentence could have been said.
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    Jul 14, 2012 12:40 PM GMT
    That´s really unkind. RSVP sounds like a really cunty business.
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    Jul 14, 2012 12:43 PM GMT
    1. If someone wants your passport or any other item, simply say "No" and make them come get it.

    2. Bel Ami is WAY to Eurotwinky for me. I prefer men in my pornography.

    3. Using "model" to describe a porn "performer" is like using the word "restaurant" to describe McDonald's.

    Kthxbai.
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    Jul 14, 2012 12:55 PM GMT
    Having read the article, I am still none the wiser as to why they were booted off the cruise. Apparently they were brought on board to attract attention and when they attracted attention, they were given the heave ho. Clearly, someone is not telling the truth.

    As for gay cruise lines taking gay people to countries where homosexuality is illegal or basic gay rights are not protected under the law, it is an irresponsible and amoral practice. Atlantis are guilty of the same thing. Do not give these charlatans your business and they will soon get the message.
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    LIEV said1. If someone wants your passport or any other item, simply say "No" and make them come get it.

    2. Bel Ami is WAY to Eurotwinky for me. I prefer men in my pornography.

    3. Using "model" to describe a porn "performer" is like using the word "restaurant" to describe McDonald's.

    Kthxbai.



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    Jul 14, 2012 1:10 PM GMT
    I believe Atlantis acquired RSVP... so technically, same company.

    Strange story. I can't figure out why they were kicked off either! On the 2 gay cruises I've been on, there's always a group of insanely attractive twinks on board that Atlantis brings on board to mix and mingle with the other passengers. I don't think they were ever porn stars though.
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    Jul 14, 2012 1:40 PM GMT
    Um.. who are the guys in the photo? Specifically the one in the middle & the upper right?

    Thanks.
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    Jul 14, 2012 1:44 PM GMT
    endo saidI believe Atlantis acquired RSVP... so technically, same company.

    Strange story. I can't figure out why they were kicked off either! On the 2 gay cruises I've been on, there's always a group of insanely attractive twinks on board that Atlantis brings on board to mix and mingle with the other passengers. I don't think they were ever porn stars though.


    I didn't know that.


    http://www.towleroad.com/2007/10/planetout-sells.html


    Last year's issue:
    2 Arrested: Why Did Atlantis Events Cruise to a Homophobic Country?
    http://www.bilerico.com/2012/03/2_arrested_why_did_atlantis_events_cruise_to_a_hom.php
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    Jul 14, 2012 1:49 PM GMT
    alexander7 saidOne of the gay cruise lines was recently forbidden access to Casablanca in Morocco because the landing of a boat load of queers would be an afront to Islam. I wonder if the passengers on that ship received a refund for not being able to make a stop in an obviously unfriendly country?

    Why do these companies that sponsor gay cruises continually plan cruise stops in gay unfriendly cities like St. Petersburg, Russia, where the mayor of that city has passed very strong anti gay legislation?

    Do these companies really give a shit about their gay customers or are they only interested in the additional money they collect from gay customers because they are willing to pay half again as much to go on a cruise that stops at the same ports of call as a non gay cruise?

    When will gay customers wake up and stop taking these outrageously expensive cruises?

    We have taken three non gay cruises, two in the Med and one in the Baltic and in every case the cruises were very gay friendly. On our first cruise, the program director planned several get togethers for the gay customers on board.

    The above story only underlines the lack of concern these gay cruise operators have for their customers and the hired talent.


    While this is a bit off this thread, I felt compelled to reply. First, I have been on 4 Atlantis cruises, all in the Caribbean and had a great time on them and believe that Atlantis provides an incredible experience and good value for the money. Second, on my first one, we stopped in Greneda and I did hear some anti-gay comments as we disembarked.

    But, and to my point, I think that visiting some destinations that aren't necessarily gay friendly is important. I was just in St. Peterburg and talked about their situation with a resident drag queen at one of the clubs there...it's clear that, as in the US, a gay presence is essential for change to happen. So, as long as we remain closeted or avoid places that aren't gay friendly, they're unlikely to change. Witness New York or any other US city prior to Stonewall...change happens because we're present.

    Having said that, to your point, being gay on a straight cruise can be equally liberating...and if that's what you prefer, more power to you!
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    Jul 14, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    bradsmith said
    While this is a bit off this thread, I felt compelled to reply. First, I have been on 4 Atlantis cruises, all in the Caribbean and had a great time on them and believe that Atlantis provides an incredible experience and good value for the money. Second, on my first one, we stopped in Greneda and I did hear some anti-gay comments as we disembarked.

    But, and to my point, I think that visiting some destinations that aren't necessarily gay friendly is important. I was just in St. Peterburg and talked about their situation with a resident drag queen at one of the clubs there...it's clear that, as in the US, a gay presence is essential for change to happen. So, as long as we remain closeted or avoid places that aren't gay friendly, they're unlikely to change. Witness New York or any other US city prior to Stonewall...change happens because we're present.

    Having said that, to your point, being gay on a straight cruise can be equally liberating...and if that's what you prefer, more power to you!


    I take your point, but Atlantis et al are not running gay protest cruises to these places (in which case, they would probably be banned), they are bringing frivolous gay party cruises. Unfortunately, you are using the same argument that certain countries and individuals used in order to ignore the boycott of South Africa during the apartheid era.

    Atlantis and co could send a clear signal to these governments and local authorities (and demonstrate their concern for gay rights), by writing to the tourist boards of these places, stating they are withdrawing their business, until these countries improve the rights of LGBT people.
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    Jul 14, 2012 2:06 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said"The young men of course refused these requests." Uh-huh.


    These boys get paid thousands to have sex with other hot boys, I can definitely see them refusing certain offers.