NYT: In Vast Effort, F.D.A. Spied on E-Mails of Its Own Scientists.

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    Jul 16, 2012 4:06 PM GMT
    If this had happened under Bush...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/us/fda-surveillance-of-scientists-spread-to-outside-critics.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

    A wide-ranging surveillance operation by the Food and Drug Administration against a group of its own scientists used an enemies list of sorts as it secretly captured thousands of e-mails that the disgruntled scientists sent privately to members of Congress, lawyers, labor officials, journalists and even President Obama, previously undisclosed records show. What began as a narrow investigation into the possible leaking of confidential agency information by five scientists quickly grew in mid-2010 into a much broader campaign to counter outside critics of the agency’s medical review process, according to the cache of more than 80,000 pages of computer documents generated by the surveillance effort. Moving to quell what one memorandum called the “collaboration” of the F.D.A.’s opponents, the surveillance operation identified 21 agency employees, Congressional officials, outside medical researchers and journalists thought to be working together to put out negative and ‘defamatory’ information about the agency.
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    Jul 16, 2012 4:32 PM GMT
    Again, Riddler, your ignorance of the US shows. This is not new and it started under Bush, especially with the EPA.

    If the computers were govt computers, whether used at work or home, the agency has the right to look at emails. No govt. employee should expect to be able to use govt. computers and not have their emails looked at.

    The emails used on govt. computers are for most purposes pubilc and then for that data which is not private, the agency has the right to look at their entire content.

    Riddler, I would be more concerned with what is going on there in the PM's office. After all, what is the status of the court cases involving Harper - i.e. "Harper vs. Canada." .
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    Jul 16, 2012 4:34 PM GMT
    mrrumples saidAgain, Riddler, your ignorance of the US shows. This is not new and it started under Bush, especially with the EPA.

    If the computers were govt computers, the agency has the right to look at emails. No govt. employee should expect to be able to use govt. computers and not have their emails looked at.

    The emails used on govt. computers are for most purposes pubilc - even if it is a personal mater.

    Riddler, I would be more concerned with what is going on there in the PM's office. After all, what is the status of the court cases involving Harper - i.e. "Harper vs. Canada." .


    The powers were available prior to the Obama Administration, but in this case, it was the Obama Administration, which claimed that they would be more transparent, less corrupt, etc, that implemented this program:

    "What began as a narrow investigation into the possible leaking of confidential agency information by five scientists quickly grew in mid-2010 into a much broader campaign to counter outside critics of the agency’s medical review process, according to the cache of more than 80,000 pages of computer documents generated by the surveillance effort."

    I note that when Bush Administration attempted to control communications from government scientists there was a significant backlash of criticism particularly from liberals here. This goes one further.
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    Jul 16, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    WOW! an origional response. Congradulations, perhaps you can think..

    Again, your ignorance of American history shows. Every administration has transparency issues. Even President Washington was complained about.

    The very fact that it is known that these emails are being looked at shows the transparency.

    Again, why so concerned about the US? Nothing else to do? How about addressing PM Harper's administration lack of transparency as related to enforcing anti-bribery laws? You don't see us going after him. Perhaps you don't want to face what is happening in Ottawa.