Job Creation

  • conservativej...

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    Jul 17, 2012 4:43 PM GMT
    I'm curious as to how our usually rather combative liberals on RJ see the issue of job creation. If it is within one's ability to create jobs, why would you do so in today's economy?

    Having said that, let's assume job creation requires a willful act to establish a business that will employ people -- I am not suggesting jobs are created solely by demand in this thread. Furthermore, with today's rising illiteracy in America, should one be required to employ unskilled labor that is typically illiterate?
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    Jul 17, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
    Great question. At breakfast this morning a friend and I watched some parents hand a dumb child an iPad to keep it quiet so they could play with their iPhones and we commented that this child, who is probably always raising itself with electronics, will be stupid beyond comprehension, and will be part of a generation that is both unemployable and will find an economy that has no jobs available for completely unskilled idiots.

    Creating jobs for the mostly retarded generation will be a key for the success of the future of the country.
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    Jul 17, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
    wut duz iliterit meen?
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    Jul 17, 2012 5:12 PM GMT
    Jobs are created by the 'Job Creators' who mostly are among the top 2% of income in the US and of course we must add in the corporations, we are told by the repubs.

    Hense the 'Job Creators' were granted huge tax breaks by 'Bush' who promised 'Jobs' from the 'Job Creators' who would now have the money to expand and hire workers.

    TEN YEARS OUT AND WHERE THE HELL ARE THE JOBS ?


    OH !!!! OH MY GOD !!!!! THE BUSHIES FORGOT SOMETHING !!!!

    THEY TOTALLY LEFT OUT THE FACT THAT 'JOBS ARE CREATED" BY

    DEMAND, ORDERS, THE NEED FOR GOODS AND SERVICES. !!!!



    What a tragedy !!! THE BUSHIES TRANSFERRED BILLIONS TO THE WRONG "JOB CREATORS", so the masses whose spending "CREATES DEMAND" were squeezed even more by the BUSHIES and even now with all the proof they need that their theories didn't work, are still pushing that money in the wrong direction. So republicans keep the masses poor, uneducated and dumb as coal buckets, But as long as it works to slow down any Obama induced /facilitated "JOB CREATION", all is good as far as the republicans are concerned.




    Above is probably more reality based facts than the conservaposse can stand and too many caps at that !!! (using reality, facts and CAPS is the ultimate sin to our partisan repubs) SO LET THE ATTACKS BEGIN !!! LOL



    When are you repubs going to finally get it ? ITS A "FACT" and it is "REALISTIC" that DEMAND is for all intents and purposes, the "JOB CREATOR". If the masses have no money and cannot educate themselves to be employed to make money to spend, you can throw all the money at the wealthy that your policies can rake up and if the masses don't have money to spend, there will be "NO DEMAND" and in the end "NO JOB CREATION".
  • conservativej...

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    Jul 17, 2012 5:15 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidwut duz iliterit meen?


    The best example of illiteracy that I can think of was the riot that occurred some eighteen-months ago in College Park, Georgia when 'Housing Choice Vouchers' were distributed. What was one of several causes of the riot? The idiots could not read and fill out forms.
  • conservativej...

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    Jul 17, 2012 5:18 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]realifedad said[/cite]Jobs are created by the 'Job Creators' who mostly are among the top 2% of income in the US and of course we must add in the corporations, we are told by the repubs.

    Hense the 'Job Creators' were granted huge tax breaks by 'Bush' who promised 'Jobs' from the 'Job Creators' who would now have the money to expand and hire workers.

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    /quote]

    You should apply for an honorary Ph.D in Economics from Dufunk College. Thank God you are not running for President.
  • conservativej...

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    Jul 17, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidGreat question. At breakfast this morning a friend and I watched some parents hand a dumb child an iPad to keep it quiet so they could play with their iPhones and we commented that this child, who is probably always raising itself with electronics, will be stupid beyond comprehension, and will be part of a generation that is both unemployable and will find an economy that has no jobs available for completely unskilled idiots.

    Creating jobs for the mostly retarded generation will be a key for the success of the future of the country.


    Apparently there are Americans who believe touching an iPad or PC is going to infuse their children with genius. Fact is, those children will never comprehend this:

    PPROC cmsearch
    xor AX,AX
    cmp AX,readstate
    jne cmsearch_02
    mov searchstate,AX
    mov AL,fsflag
    push AX
    call cmsearchidd
    or AX,AX
    jz cmsearch_02
    mov fsflag,DL
    mov EAX,sector
    and DL,IO_SEARCHSET
    jz cmsearch_00
    xor EAX,EAX
    cmsearch_00: mov search_offset,EAX
    cmsearch_01: call continue_search
    cmsearch_02: mov AX,_C_NORMAL
    ret
    PEND cmsearch

    (And the formatting is screwed guys.)
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    Jul 17, 2012 5:42 PM GMT
    conservativejock said[quote][cite]realifedad said[/cite]Jobs are created by the 'Job Creators' who mostly are among the top 2% of income in the US and of course we must add in the corporations, we are told by the repubs.

    Hense the 'Job Creators' were granted huge tax breaks by 'Bush' who promised 'Jobs' from the 'Job Creators' who would now have the money to expand and hire workers.

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    /quote]

    You should apply for an honorary Ph.D in Economics from Dufunk College. Thank God you are not running for President.






    LOL !!! interesting that you only picked out your beliefs to quote. you thereby missed the whole point.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 17, 2012 5:58 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidI'm curious as to how our usually rather combative liberals on RJ see the issue of job creation. If it is within one's ability to create jobs, why would you do so in today's economy?

    Having said that, let's assume job creation requires a willful act to establish a business that will employ people -- I am not suggesting jobs are created solely by demand in this thread. Furthermore, with today's rising illiteracy in America, should one be required to employ unskilled labor that is typically illiterate?


    1. You would create jobs, because creating jobs creates spenders, which generates more revenue for your business, which creates jobs, which creates spenders... Economics 101.

    2. The US has a literacy rate of almost 99%+, meaning that just about everybody in America currently looking for employment is literate.

    Is this the kind of easily-debunked, factless, misinformed nonsense that passes for debate in "conservative" circles?
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    Jul 17, 2012 6:25 PM GMT
    It is not whether a conservative or a liberal can create jobs. Neither can or will without the govt. tax breaks they get. Libertarians can't get elected because those who say they are conservative and want the govt. out of their lives really don't.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 17, 2012 8:18 PM GMT
    You wanna know how to create jobs?

    Ask John Boehner He was the one who said he was going to be single minded in his relentless atttempt to create jobs

    But Who Knew that he was gonna get there through a Woman's Vagina icon_biggrin.gif

    Republican Job creation .... a Reality In India and Indonesia
    Here in America? Not so Hot icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 18, 2012 12:51 AM GMT
    conservativejock saidI'm curious as to how our usually rather combative liberals on RJ see the issue of job creation. If it is within one's ability to create jobs, why would you do so in today's economy?

    Having said that, let's assume job creation requires a willful act to establish a business that will employ people -- I am not suggesting jobs are created solely by demand in this thread. Furthermore, with today's rising illiteracy in America, should one be required to employ unskilled labor that is typically illiterate?


    There is no reason to create jobs for the sake of creating jobs. It would be ruinous and in the long term bankrupt a company (assuming there is no demand for the products of the company and hence no actual reason for the positions). However, we still need our skilled workers to be employed and ready to give skills to others. Things need to still get done in any nation.

    Hence part of the reason why we have a public sector. Sometimes some things need to get done. Building roads, having a police force, teaching, etc. A public sector can employ people regardless of market conditions (we always need roads, fire safety, teachers, etc.)

    This means that during down economic times, we won't go into oblivion trying to rely on the for profit sector to create jobs despite of a lack of demand. Also, it makes sure that we have skilled, safe, and (if we were like other industrialized nations) healthy workforce that would be competitive once demand ticks up and employers start hiring again.

    Obviously an overzealous public sector is not good either. China is a prime example with ghost cities. The government created jobs for the sake of creating jobs and now it is facing a huge housing bubble. Obviously there are constraints to how much influence the government should have in a market based economy.

    Job creation should not solely be focused on the private sector. Otherwise we would truly have a Darwinian society.
  • Webster666

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    Jul 18, 2012 1:06 AM GMT
    I am a screaming liberal San Francisco Democrat.
    But, I am disgusted that my President failed to follow the path of President Franklin Roosevelt, who started countless programs to employ the millions of out of work Americans, during the first Great Depression.

    Our government spent $700 BILLION to bail out the crooked banks, whose executives are STILL allowed to participate in the same type of gambling that caused the George W. Bush Great Depression.

    That money should have been used to create temporary jobs, and pay out of work Americans to do those jobs. It would have easily turned the economy around, in just a few years.

    If I have a job, I'm going to spend money, not just on food and my mortgage, but on all kinds of extra things. And, that creates a need for more people to perform the jobs that produce those extra things.

    So, in a relatively short time, we would no longer need those temporary jobs, created by the government.
  • Webster666

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    Jul 18, 2012 1:10 AM GMT
    conservativejock saidI'm curious as to how our usually rather combative liberals on RJ see the issue of job creation. If it is within one's ability to create jobs, why would you do so in today's economy?

    Having said that, let's assume job creation requires a willful act to establish a business that will employ people -- I am not suggesting jobs are created solely by demand in this thread. Furthermore, with today's rising illiteracy in America, should one be required to employ unskilled labor that is typically illiterate?



    I believe that you are mistaken when you say that unskilled labor is typically illiterate. Nevertheless, our country used to have all kinds of factory jobs for unskilled people who were willing to learn the job and willing to work. Those were the jobs that made our economy flourish and our middle class expand.
  • Webster666

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    Jul 18, 2012 1:13 AM GMT
    conservativejock said[quote][cite]realifedad said[/cite]Jobs are created by the 'Job Creators' who mostly are among the top 2% of income in the US and of course we must add in the corporations, we are told by the repubs.

    Hense the 'Job Creators' were granted huge tax breaks by 'Bush' who promised 'Jobs' from the 'Job Creators' who would now have the money to expand and hire workers.

    ******************************* *******************

    /quote]

    You should apply for an honorary Ph.D in Economics from Dufunk College. Thank God you are not running for President.




    So, answer his question.
    WHERE THE HELL ARE THE JOBS ?
  • Webster666

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    Jul 18, 2012 1:16 AM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    conservativejock saidI'm curious as to how our usually rather combative liberals on RJ see the issue of job creation. If it is within one's ability to create jobs, why would you do so in today's economy?

    Having said that, let's assume job creation requires a willful act to establish a business that will employ people -- I am not suggesting jobs are created solely by demand in this thread. Furthermore, with today's rising illiteracy in America, should one be required to employ unskilled labor that is typically illiterate?


    1. You would create jobs, because creating jobs creates spenders, which generates more revenue for your business, which creates jobs, which creates spenders... Economics 101.

    2. The US has a literacy rate of almost 99%+, meaning that just about everybody in America currently looking for employment is literate.

    Is this the kind of easily-debunked, factless, misinformed nonsense that passes for debate in "conservative" circles?




    Excellent post, and simple enough to understand, that even the OP might get it.
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    Jul 18, 2012 8:01 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidI am a screaming liberal San Francisco Democrat.
    But, I am disgusted that my President failed to follow the path of President Franklin Roosevelt, who started countless programs to employ the millions of out of work Americans, during the first Great Depression.

    Our government spent $700 BILLION to bail out the crooked banks, whose executives are STILL allowed to participate in the same type of gambling that caused the George W. Bush Great Depression.

    That money should have been used to create temporary jobs, and pay out of work Americans to do those jobs. It would have easily turned the economy around, in just a few years.

    If I have a job, I'm going to spend money, not just on food and my mortgage, but on all kinds of extra things. And, that creates a need for more people to perform the jobs that produce those extra things.

    So, in a relatively short time, we would no longer need those temporary jobs, created by the government.


    I agree except that we did need to bail out the banks...to an extent. We should have had better oversight as to where the money was going. We should not have simply allowed the same laissez faire legislation that we had prior to the financial crisis. Possibly the total was too much, I truly don't know. However, without stabilizing the banks and freeing up credit we would be facing catastrophe. Without stabilizing the banks, we would not be in the position to be hiring. So there is something to be said about the bailout.

    Again the problem is not with the bailout, but rather where the money went.