Why do gay females have their own title, "lesbian", but gay men do not?

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    Jul 17, 2012 8:10 PM GMT
    You always see the phrase, "gays and lesbians". Technically, "gays" can define gay women or lesbians as well. Why don't gay men have our own little pet name?
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    Jul 17, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
    Because we never had our own island like ancient lesbians did on Lesbos?
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 17, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
    Fag, queer, fairy, pansy, ass pirate....
    Shall I go on?
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    Jul 17, 2012 8:13 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidBecause we never had our own island like ancient lesbians did on Lesbos?


    That is correct.
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    Jul 17, 2012 8:19 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidBecause we never had our own island like ancient lesbians did on Lesbos?


    Sure we do, it's called Ibiza :-)
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    Jul 17, 2012 8:19 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidBecause we never had our own island like ancient lesbians did on Lesbos?


    and it didn't sound right to be known as "Key Westers".
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    Jul 17, 2012 8:20 PM GMT
    ECnAZ said
    pocketnico saidBecause we never had our own island like ancient lesbians did on Lesbos?


    Sure we do, it's called Ibiza :-)


    So in that case, a gay man should be an ibicenco (Spanish) or eivissenc (Catalan)?
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    Jul 17, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
    Hothouse said
    pocketnico saidBecause we never had our own island like ancient lesbians did on Lesbos?


    and it didn't sound right to be known as "Key Westers".
    Now ya know why we call ourselves cocks.. er Conchs!
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    Jul 17, 2012 8:51 PM GMT
    yourname2000 saidIn b4 TBA! hahaha. icon_biggrin.gif

    I have a feeling a dissertation on the differences between pure and impure homosexuals is coming shortly...with renewed demands for the pure "gold card gays" to have their own moniker. icon_wink.gif
    Did you HAVE to 'remind' her?icon_evil.gif
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 17, 2012 8:57 PM GMT
    Actually, the term gay does refer to men only, however, just like women like to shop in the men's department, they also like to take anything else that belongs to men.
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    Jul 17, 2012 9:22 PM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidYeah, I think we are the "G" in the GLBT label.


    I read that as "GBLT" and instantly wanted a guacamole BLT.... mmmmmmm
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    Jul 17, 2012 9:25 PM GMT
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    TheGuyNextDoor saidYeah, I think we are the "G" in the GLBT label.


    I read that as "GBLT" and instantly wanted a guacamole BLT.... mmmmmmm


    mmmmm I could watch you eat bacon all day babe
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    Jul 17, 2012 9:27 PM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidYeah, I think we are the "G" in the GLBT label.


    Although nowadays it's switched to LGBT more often icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 17, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    pocketnico said
    TheGuyNextDoor saidYeah, I think we are the "G" in the GLBT label.


    Although nowadays it's switched to LGBT more often icon_rolleyes.gif
    what? No guac? Im pissed!
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    Jul 17, 2012 9:31 PM GMT
    "Before the late 19th century, the word "Lesbian" referred to any derivative or aspect of Lesbos, including a type of wine. In 1890, the term was used in a medical dictionary as an adjective to describe tribadism (as "Lesbian love"): sexual gratification of two women by simulating intercourse. "Lesbianism" to describe erotic relationships between women had been documented in 1870. The terms were interchangeable with "Sapphist" and "Sapphism" around the turn of the 20th century. The use of "Lesbian" in medical literature became prominent; by 1925, the word was recorded as a noun to mean the female equivalent of a sodomite."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian#Origin_and_transformation_of_the_term

    "LGBT is an initialism that collectively refers to the "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender" community. In use since the 1990s, the term "LGBT" is an adaptation of the initialism "LGB", which itself started replacing the phrase "gay community" beginning in the mid-to-late 1980s, which many within the community in question felt did not accurately represent all those to whom it referred."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT

    In other words, the women felt like the "movement" was being run by men and pushed for their own term to be used more commonly as well.

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    Jul 17, 2012 9:32 PM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidYeah, I think we are the "G" in the GLBT label.


    ^^ Feel the same way here, I thought Gay - more male inclusive, Lesbians - homo females, Queer - more inclusive of everyone, Bi - bi people, Transgendered - transgendered folks ! maybe the word Gay been used so many times, that's why it's not so special anymore?
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    Jul 17, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
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    Jul 17, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
    I know 'Lesbian' comes from the name of a Geek island called Lesbos where a famous female poet wrote in a romantic way about other women...Actually all people who are from this island are still called "Lesbians" just like we're called "Americans" etc. How all homosexual women got this title is up to history to explain lol
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    Jul 17, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
    There we have it: Sodomites. icon_eek.gif
    And Yes, you are right... GLB became LGB then LGBT and today LGBTQ icon_sad.gif