Boy Scouts Discriminate but Scouts know better

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    Jul 18, 2012 10:20 PM GMT
    I was saddened to see the Boys Scouts of America announce that they will continue to discriminate against gay men in America.

    The BSA's goal is "to train youth in responsible citizenship, character development, and self-reliance through participation in a wide range of outdoor activities, educational programs, and, at older age levels, career-oriented programs in partnership with community organizations."

    How does the BSA's decision prepare a young man to join the armed services, where gays are required to be treated equally?

    How does the BSA's decision prepare a young man to become a productive member of the workforce or start a business, without an understanding of unacceptable and illegal discriminatory behavior?

    How does the BSA's decision prepare a young man to become a community leader, when to be elected, he must demonstrate a fundamental respect for a broad cross-section of Americans?

    BSA leadership has completely missed how to go about preparing youth for adulthood. BSA leadership has completely missed the difference between being gay and being a pedophile.

    As a gay police officer, I'm sworn to protect children I cannot mentor as a Boy Scout leader. As a gay police officer, I'm called upon daily to intervene in man's inhumanity to man.

    In my work on the streets, I can tell you that we need more respect for others, not less.

    The good news is that American youth are way ahead of BSA leadership in understanding what counts in life. Some of these boy scouts have gay cousins, uncles, brothers and fathers that serve as their mentors. The problem the BSA now faces is that it just became less relevant to the American experience.BOLD TEXT GOES HERE
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    Jul 18, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    What is the age range of the boy scouts? Are they really old enough to know whether or not they would understand they are gay or not? Couldn't there already be members that are BS but don't yet know they are gay? What is the point here? I was never a BS so all I know about them is that they go camping and do stuff to make awards or badges of honors. How exactly does the BSA discriminate against Gay's?
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:55 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidWhat is the age range of the boy scouts? Are they really old enough to know whether or not they would understand they are gay or not? Couldn't there already be members that are BS but don't yet know they are gay? What is the point here? I was never a BS so all I know about them is that they go camping and do stuff to make awards or badges of honors. How exactly does the BSA discriminate against Gay's?
    It wants them purged.
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:56 PM GMT
    MasculineMuslJoc saidI was saddened to see the Boys Scouts of America announce that they will continue to discriminate against gay men in America.

    The BSA's goal is "to train youth in responsible citizenship, character development, and self-reliance through participation in a wide range of outdoor activities, educational programs, and, at older age levels, career-oriented programs in partnership with community organizations."

    How does the BSA's decision prepare a young man to join the armed services, where gays are required to be treated equally?

    How does the BSA's decision prepare a young man to become a productive member of the workforce or start a business, without an understanding of unacceptable and illegal discriminatory behavior?

    How does the BSA's decision prepare a young man to become a community leader, when to be elected, he must demonstrate a fundamental respect for a broad cross-section of Americans?

    BSA leadership has completely missed how to go about preparing youth for adulthood. BSA leadership has completely missed the difference between being gay and being a pedophile.

    As a gay police officer, I'm sworn to protect children I cannot mentor as a Boy Scout leader. As a gay police officer, I'm called upon daily to intervene in man's inhumanity to man.

    In my work on the streets, I can tell you that we need more respect for others, not less.

    The good news is that American youth are way ahead of BSA leadership in understanding what counts in life. Some of these boy scouts have gay cousins, uncles, brothers and fathers that serve as their mentors. The problem the BSA now faces is that it just became less relevant to the American experience.
    Aint THAT the truth!
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:57 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidWhat is the age range of the boy scouts? Are they really old enough to know whether or not they would understand they are gay or not? Couldn't there already be members that are BS but don't yet know they are gay? What is the point here? I was never a BS so all I know about them is that they go camping and do stuff to make awards or badges of honors. How exactly does the BSA discriminate against Gay's?


    Gay men are strictly forbidden from joining (BSA goes til age 1icon_cool.gif and strictly forbidden from being pact leaders as it sends the inappropriate message that the gay lifestyle choice is an acceptable alternative to straight.

    Fuck the mother fuckers. Thats what I say!
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:58 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    AMoonHawk saidWhat is the age range of the boy scouts? Are they really old enough to know whether or not they would understand they are gay or not? Couldn't there already be members that are BS but don't yet know they are gay? What is the point here? I was never a BS so all I know about them is that they go camping and do stuff to make awards or badges of honors. How exactly does the BSA discriminate against Gay's?


    Gay men are strictly forbidden from joining (BSA goes til age 1icon_cool.gif and strictly forbidden from being pact leaders as it sends the inappropriate message that the gay lifestyle choice is an acceptable alternative to straight.

    Fuck the mother fuckers. Thats what I say!
    I thought it was a "pack" leader.
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    Jul 19, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    Chainers said
    AMoonHawk saidWhat is the age range of the boy scouts? Are they really old enough to know whether or not they would understand they are gay or not? Couldn't there already be members that are BS but don't yet know they are gay? What is the point here? I was never a BS so all I know about them is that they go camping and do stuff to make awards or badges of honors. How exactly does the BSA discriminate against Gay's?


    Gay men are strictly forbidden from joining (BSA goes til age 1icon_cool.gif and strictly forbidden from being pact leaders as it sends the inappropriate message that the gay lifestyle choice is an acceptable alternative to straight.

    Fuck the mother fuckers. Thats what I say!
    I thought it was a "pack" leader.


    who the fuck cares.
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    Jul 19, 2012 12:01 AM GMT
    I thought the guy who formed the Scouts, Baden-Powell?, was a closeted gay?
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    Jul 19, 2012 12:01 AM GMT
    So, what happens when the heterosexual pack leader get all priestly on the kids? I mean, child molesters aren't necessarily homosexuals... also, what do they do about the boy scouts who grow up and find that they are gay, and join the military, that has always accepted them? Will they discriminate against him too??
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    Jul 19, 2012 12:01 AM GMT
    All I know is that I am never volunteering or donating money to this organization. I'm gonna use my Eagle Scout to land me jobs.

    Haha a gay man is using the BSA to gain an advantage.
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    Jul 19, 2012 12:11 AM GMT
    msuNtx saidAll I know is that I am never volunteering or donating money to this organization. I'm gonna use my Eagle Scout to land me jobs.

    Haha a gay man is using the BSA to gain an advantage.


    Kudos to you on being an Eagle Scout!
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    Jul 19, 2012 10:00 AM GMT
    swimguychicago saidI thought the guy who formed the Scouts, Baden-Powell?, was a closeted gay?


    No he was just a Pome, and many of them seem to be poofs.icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 23, 2012 9:27 PM GMT
    Does anyone know a link to complain to the National Boy Scout Asso?
    I was an Eagle Scout and am enraged about this.
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    Jul 23, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
    Yes, Baden Powell, the founder of the scouts was indeed a closeted gay. I agree on not letting gay councilers in because of the parents bitching and groping.

    It is very wrong to not admit scouts in because of being gay. How the hell do they even know that they're gay at such a young age?

    Lots of gay scouts have actually turned in their badges because of this
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    Jul 23, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
    braddomo saidDoes anyone know a link to complain to the National Boy Scout Asso?
    I was an Eagle Scout and am enraged about this.
    Google is your friend!icon_wink.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 23, 2012 9:51 PM GMT
    It's always ironic that organisations with an anti-gay culture also have a culture of paedophilia!
  • tazzari

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    Jul 23, 2012 9:52 PM GMT
    Do Scouts from other countries have the same rule? Or are we, as usual, still way behind?
  • Rowing_Ant

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    Jul 23, 2012 9:58 PM GMT
    Alas the US is waaaayyyy behind Europe.

    But then, in a recent paper I read, the US thinks Europe is gong to hell in a hard cart cos its pro gay anti and Jeeeeessuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssss