Sources: Romney Wouldn't Have Run If He Had Foreseen Tax Controversy

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    Jul 18, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
    "A variety of possible explanations for Romney's refusal to release the returns have flowed into the information vacuum. The Obama campaign has floated the notion that maybe he paid no taxes at all in some years. Others have wondered if he was part of the Swiss tax evasion scandal of 2009. Underlying the resistance, sources close to him say, is Romney's belief that voters simply don't have a right to see what should be private financial information.

    If the scrutiny that Romney's 2010 taxes have already undergone is any indication, his fears are well placed. The filing indicated a Swiss bank account -- unprecedented for a presidential candidate -- which added to the image of a wealthy man unfamiliar with ordinary people's limitations. Bain filings show that several of its companies set up shop in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands, places known as tax havens."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/mitt-romney-tax-returns_n_1682539.html
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 18, 2012 10:38 PM GMT
    Caslon20000 said The Obama campaign has floated the notion that maybe he paid no taxes at all in some years.


    Of course they have. One of many false notions they have been "floating around".
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    Jul 18, 2012 10:59 PM GMT
    Unnamed Current and former Bain sources.......?

    All speculative.

    Given the number of people with overseas bank accounts, including prominent Democrats, what is the basis for saying a Swiss bank account is unprecedented for a Presidential candidate? Has anyone reviewed the financial filings of the candidates for the past, say, 20 years to make such a statement? Smells like sloppy journalism from a partisan. Surprise, surprise.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 18, 2012 11:07 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidUnnamed Current and former Bain sources.......?

    All speculative.

    Given the number of people with overseas bank accounts, including prominent Democrats, what is the basis for saying a Swiss bank account is unprecedented for a Presidential candidate? Has anyone reviewed the financial filings of the candidates for the past, say, 20 years to make such a statement? Smells like sloppy journalism from a partisan. Surprise, surprise.


    Prominent Democrats?

    LOL ... but dude ... they Aren't runnin for President are they? icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    LOL ... but dude ... they Aren't runnin for President are they? icon_biggrin.gif



    There is nothing illegal about overseas bank accounts, so what's your point? Also, not illegal to be filthly rich and/or extremely successful.
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    GQjock said
    LOL ... but dude ... they Aren't runnin for President are they? icon_biggrin.gif



    There is nothing illegal about overseas bank accounts, so what's your point? Also, not illegal to be filthly rich and/or extremely successful.


    Nope ... not illegal
    also not illegal to be a lot of things ... but they don't help in getting you elected
    Why on earth should someone elect a man who takes his money and places it OUTSIDE of the country he is set on RUNNING ?
    It's also not illegal to run companies that outsource jobs....
    It's also not illegal to have stakes in companies that force bankruptcies and take away retirement plans either

    Just sayin ....
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
    "ONLY
    the little people
    PAY TAXES."

    famously said by Leona Helmsley......

    and put into practice by Mitt Romney
  • Webster666

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    Jul 18, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Caslon20000 said The Obama campaign has floated the notion that maybe he paid no taxes at all in some years.


    Of course they have. One of many false notions they have been "floating around".



    A) You don't know that it's false.
    B) I strongly suspect that there's stuff that's a HELL of a lot more incriminating in his tax returns than merely not having to pay any taxes.
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
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  • Webster666

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    Jul 18, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidUnnamed Current and former Bain sources.......?

    All speculative.

    Given the number of people with overseas bank accounts, including prominent Democrats, what is the basis for saying a Swiss bank account is unprecedented for a Presidential candidate? Has anyone reviewed the financial filings of the candidates for the past, say, 20 years to make such a statement? Smells like sloppy journalism from a partisan. Surprise, surprise.



    There are only two men with any chance of winning the Presidential election.
    The "Prominent Democrat" has no overseas bank accounts.
    The Prominent Republican has numerous overseas accounts, where he's hiding a good portion of his wealth so that he doesn't have to pay taxes in America.
    How do you think that sounds to the average American ?
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    Jul 19, 2012 5:31 AM GMT
    GQjock said582080_10150917579715493_22883478_n.jpg




    Precisely.
    There must be some BAD BAD THINGS in them tax returns.

    There were a few days there when many prominent Repubs spoke out and urged Romney to stop the bleeding and to release the returns - but the Romney camp has spread the word to the Repub elites that there are so many bad bad things in the tax returns - that the tax returns MUST not be released.

    Now that Romney's fellow Repubs have gotten the heads up that "it is what it is" and releasing the tax returns is NOT an option - there won't be much more heard from Romney's fellow Repubs about the necessity of releasing the returns.

    The tax returns cannot be released and the Relub party must just try to minimize the fallout from having a presidential nominee who's obviously hiding a lot of bad bad things from the American people.
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    Jul 19, 2012 5:39 AM GMT
    Webster666 said
    A) You don't know that it's false.
    B) I strongly suspect that there's stuff that's a HELL of a lot more incriminating in his tax returns than merely not having to pay any taxes.



    A) You have no idea what, if anything, is true.

    B) I strongly suspect that Mitt Romney vetted himself pretty carefully before deciding to run for President in the first place, and there is no doubt in my mind that Romney's tax returns will reveal little else than that he is an extremely successful and wealthy man who pays more taxes in a single year than most Americans make in an entire lifetime.
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    Jul 19, 2012 5:43 AM GMT
    RickRick91 saidthe Romney camp has spread the word to the Repub elites that there are so many bad bad things in the tax returns - that the tax returns MUST not be released.



    Ohhhh Lordy...you and the things you pull out of your ASS. You're so full of shit no wonder your eyes are brown icon_eek.gif
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    Jul 19, 2012 6:41 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RickRick91 saidthe Romney camp has spread the word to the Repub elites that there are so many bad bad things in the tax returns - that the tax returns MUST not be released.



    Ohhhh Lordy...you and the things you pull out of your ASS. You're so full of shit no wonder your eyes are brown icon_eek.gif






    Uh-oh - there you go again!

    You're back to your nasty unprovoked personal attacks.
    And after you promised to keep the tone civil on the blogs here too.
    You must be feeling particularly bitter and threatened tonight.
    How sad for you.

    And you're making another of your infamous predictions too.

    Since you're predicting that Romney will release his tax returns - and that they will be completely clean and wholesome - please enlighten us.
    When will the tax returns be released?

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    Jul 19, 2012 6:43 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Webster666 said
    A) You don't know that it's false.
    B) I strongly suspect that there's stuff that's a HELL of a lot more incriminating in his tax returns than merely not having to pay any taxes.



    A) You have no idea what, if anything, is true.

    B) I strongly suspect that Mitt Romney vetted himself pretty carefully before deciding to run for President in the first place, and there is no doubt in my mind that Romney's tax returns will reveal little else than that he is an extremely successful and wealthy man who pays more taxes in a single year than most Americans make in an entire lifetime.





    Take note, world!
    Curiousjock has predicted that Romney WILL release his tax returns - and that they will be squeaky clean!

  • Webster666

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    Jul 19, 2012 7:26 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Webster666 said
    A) You don't know that it's false.
    B) I strongly suspect that there's stuff that's a HELL of a lot more incriminating in his tax returns than merely not having to pay any taxes.



    A) You have no idea what, if anything, is true.

    B) I strongly suspect that Mitt Romney vetted himself pretty carefully before deciding to run for President in the first place, and there is no doubt in my mind that Romney's tax returns will reveal little else than that he is an extremely successful and wealthy man who pays more taxes in a single year than most Americans make in an entire lifetime.




    A) I know that it's true that you're either a Republican suck ass or someone who loathes the idea of having a black President. Which is it ?

    B) "Romney vetted himself ????????"
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
  • Webster666

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    Jul 19, 2012 7:33 AM GMT
    RickRick91 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Webster666 said
    A) You don't know that it's false.
    B) I strongly suspect that there's stuff that's a HELL of a lot more incriminating in his tax returns than merely not having to pay any taxes.



    A) You have no idea what, if anything, is true.

    B) I strongly suspect that Mitt Romney vetted himself pretty carefully before deciding to run for President in the first place, and there is no doubt in my mind that Romney's tax returns will reveal little else than that he is an extremely successful and wealthy man who pays more taxes in a single year than most Americans make in an entire lifetime.





    Take note, world!
    Curiousjock has predicted that Romney WILL release his tax returns - and that they will be squeaky clean!




    I found it pretty suspicious that, for the 2 years of tax returns that Romney IS going to release, he isn't releasing them until his accountants "work on them." I thought that, after you filed your income taxes (including all amendments, etc) , and they were accepted by the IRS, that there was nothing more to do with them.

    Or, does "working on them" mean that he's correcting all the ways he got away with cheating on his taxes, so that they won't look as bad ?
  • Webster666

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    Jul 19, 2012 7:37 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RickRick91 saidthe Romney camp has spread the word to the Repub elites that there are so many bad bad things in the tax returns - that the tax returns MUST not be released.



    Ohhhh Lordy...you and the things you pull out of your ASS. You're so full of shit no wonder your eyes are brown icon_eek.gif



    Okay, why is Willard refusing to release his income taxes ?

    The general public is not going to let this just go away.
    The rest of us have to pay our fair share of taxes, so we don't look kindly upon some filthy rich, lying tax cheat who wants to be our president.
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    Jul 19, 2012 7:46 AM GMT
    RickRick91 said
    Take note, world!
    Curiousjock has predicted that Romney WILL release his tax returns - and that they will be squeaky clean!


    Ha. Didn't he also predict that Santorum wouldn't win any primaries, that Huntsman would, that Rick Perry would be a good candidate, that Gingrich would not win South Carolina, and that Romney would be up in the polls by summer? Ha.

    My guess is Romney not only did not pay taxes in some years, he also was involved in the Swiss bank account scandal of 2009. There's now reports that the one return he did release (2010) is incomplete: the missing schedule is related to his Swiss bank account.

    I don't think we'll see the returns. Like George Will said, they must be *really* bad (politically) if he's willing to just let people go to the voting booth assuming he's a tax cheat. Ironic that a standard started by George Romney is going to finish off Mitt Romney.
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    Jul 19, 2012 8:14 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    RickRick91 said
    Take note, world!
    Curiousjock has predicted that Romney WILL release his tax returns - and that they will be squeaky clean!


    Ha. Didn't he also predict that Santorum wouldn't win any primaries, that Huntsman would, that Rick Perry would be a good candidate, that Gingrich would not win South Carolina, and that Romney would be up in the polls by summer? Ha.

    My guess is Romney not only did not pay taxes in some years, he also was involved in the Swiss bank account scandal of 2009. There's now reports that the one return he did release (2010) is incomplete: the missing schedule is related to his Swiss bank account.

    I don't think we'll see the returns. Like George Will said, they must be *really* bad (politically) if he's willing to just let people go to the voting booth assuming he's a tax cheat. Ironic that a standard started by George Romney is going to finish off Mitt Romney.






    Yup.
    CJ's predictions are infamous for ending up being dead wrong.

    CJ was also a big Sarah Palin fan and he predicted that she would have the last laugh on her critics.
    Instead Palin has just become a joke who's a pariah within her own party.

    And now CJ has officially predicted:

    1.) Romney will release his tax returns and his tax returns will be pure as the driven snow.

    2.) Romney will win the election.

    We all need to take note of these latest predictions and remember them - so we can check them for accuracy after the election is over.

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    Jul 19, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidThe general public is not going to let this just go away.

    And Obama is not going to let the public forget it.

    In general, it seems to me that it is best for a politician to come clean early before the suspicion starts. Once there is suspicion, anything discovered during the disclosure is going to resonant so much more. Unless the returns are going to flat out, 100% certainty sink his campaign, he should have released them with as little fuss as possible.....on a Friday. icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 19, 2012 9:56 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said I strongly suspect that Mitt Romney vetted himself pretty carefully before deciding to run for President in the first place, and there is no doubt in my mind that Romney's tax returns will reveal little else than that he is an extremely successful and wealthy man who pays more taxes in a single year than most Americans make in an entire lifetime.


    Oh really? I strongly suspect this financial wheeler dealer thought he would take a chance on keeping his tax returns under wraps. He might have succeeded too, had he not decided to make his business acumen the central plank of his campaign.
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    Jul 19, 2012 10:01 PM GMT
    ColdJock said
    Ex_Mil8 said
    CuriousJockAZ said I strongly suspect that Mitt Romney vetted himself pretty carefully before deciding to run for President in the first place, and there is no doubt in my mind that Romney's tax returns will reveal little else than that he is an extremely successful and wealthy man who pays more taxes in a single year than most Americans make in an entire lifetime.


    Oh really? I strongly suspect this financial wheeler dealer thought he would take a chance on keeping his tax returns under wraps. He might have succeeded too, had he not decided to make his business acumen the central plank of his campaign.


    He's rich you stupid Brit who is so self-loathing to be a Brit that he keeps commenting on American issues.


    How do you feel about canadians who comment on American news? Lamb chop is getting testy.
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    ColdJock said
    He's rich you stupid Brit who is so self-loathing to be a Brit that he keeps commenting on American issues.


    Hi Southbeach.
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    Jul 19, 2012 10:07 PM GMT
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    ColdJock said
    He's rich you stupid Brit who is so self-loathing to be a Brit that he keeps commenting on American issues.


    Hi Southbeach.

    I wondered what sock this might be. You guess SB? He's been spamming the political threads with a flurry of offensive posts since he joined here TODAY.