Gay Movies vs. Mainstream Movies

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    Jul 19, 2012 9:09 AM GMT
    I've noticed that I have a large Gay movie collection that I've accumulated over the years. To name a few: Jeffrey; Torchsong Trilogy; Philadelphia; Priscilla Queen of the Desert...

    Anyways, I was wondering why I had purchased some of them (about 150 movies now), as a lot were crappy, and the acting was really bad. There was a period where I just wanted to buy these movies to help support Gay causes, movies/filmmakers; help spread awareness, etc... And since I had started collecting these movies nearly a decade ago, I was wondering if I should keep them or just get rid of them, for a lot were so bad that I'll probably never watch them again.

    So, you tell me, should I keep them, or donate them to the local library or something? What would you do? And while you're at it, tell me how you feel regarding Gay movies vs. Mainstream movies?
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    Jul 19, 2012 9:18 AM GMT
    OK, I think you would keep em for when you're with your man on a day when the cable or satelite is out, its raining outside, the internet is down and there is nothing to watch. This is one case where hoarding is a good thing.

    I also have a small collection, and yes so many are bad B films with bad acting, but sometimes its all we had at the time. I went through a period of desparately looking for gay cinema. When Netflix first came out I ordered all the gay films, usually ones about love, and hopefull happy endings. I hated the ones that awlays ended with aids/death or some woman messing up the program. lol Anyways if I were you I would keep them all. or give them to me..LOL Two of my favorites are "Latter Days" & "Beautiful Thing."..

    PS :I forgot to ask, are they VHS? LOL
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    Jul 19, 2012 9:24 AM GMT
    Nope, they are all DVD's... and I, too, like those two movies you mentioned. "Latter Days" is the one about the Mormon boy, right? Have you ever seen "Ma vie en rose" or "Get Real?" Those are two that I'd recommend...especially the French one (if you don't mind reading subtitles)!
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    Jul 19, 2012 9:42 AM GMT
    JulesVerne saidNope, they are all DVD's... and I, too, like those two movies you mentioned. "Latter Days" is the one about the Mormon boy, right? Have you ever seen "Ma vie en rose" or "Get Real?" Those are two that I'd recommend...especially the French one (if you don't mind reading subtitles)!



    OO yeah I love, "GET REALl" ..Great film!

    Yup the whole daymn movie! icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 19, 2012 11:40 AM GMT
    I just watched Prayers for Bobby. OMG it made me cry.. AnimatedGIF-CryingSmiley.gif
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    Jul 19, 2012 12:07 PM GMT
    Although it's foreign a really great film to watch is the love of siam.. 3 hours long and the beginning is a bit of a drag but it's worth it. So many facets of love explored in the movie.
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    Jul 19, 2012 12:21 PM GMT
    Unfortunately due to the very nature of it being for a niche market, the vast majority of queer cinema is very low budget and that obviously has the knock-on effect of not having very high production values, and not being able to attract actors of a particularly high standard (and a lot of the time they are chosen more for their looks).

    However I do like watching gay films, we have a DVD rental service called LoveFilm in the UK and a lot of the films on my list are the gay ones, since they aren't going to show at my local cinemas so it's my only opportunity to see them.

    Many of them are utter shit but there are some gems in amongst the muck. I have to say though, I think a lot of the best gay films (I agree with you about Jeffrey, Torch Song Trilogy for example) are somewhat old-school now (or seen as it) so are not being seen by the youth of today perhaps which is a shame.

    I would love to see a huge action blockbuster where the main character was gay and it was totally coincidental to the plot, or a cool edgy horror flick with a non-stereotypical gay character who doesn't get killed off before the opening credits roll, but I think that's a long way off. And I understand it - studios want to make money, they are not going to risk alienating a large chunk of their audience just to appeal to a few.
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    Jul 19, 2012 12:22 PM GMT
    Most gay movies are crap. Keep the gems. Donate the rest to a library.
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    Jul 19, 2012 1:26 PM GMT
    Thanks for posting "Prayers for Bobby". I've never heard of it, but when I find the time, I will watch it and tell you what I think. Thanks for the suggestion!
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    Jul 19, 2012 2:01 PM GMT
    Weekend is a great gay film, really subtle. Saw that at the cinema - so I still need to get the dvd.
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    Jul 19, 2012 2:17 PM GMT
    guyathome74 saidI just watched Prayers for Bobby. OMG it made me cry.. AnimatedGIF-CryingSmiley.gif
    Very sad story. Bobby was from a town about 5 miles from where I live. What's even sadder is to think that this could still happen in many places today.
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    Jul 19, 2012 2:22 PM GMT
    JulesVerne saidI've noticed that I have a large Gay movie collection that I've accumulated over the years. To name a few: Jeffrey; Torchsong Trilogy; Philadelphia; Priscilla Queen of the Desert...

    So, you tell me, should I keep them, or donate them to the local library or something? What would you do? And while you're at it, tell me how you feel regarding Gay movies vs. Mainstream movies?
    You should start a trading or donating service here on RJ. The local library might keep them but any place else might just toss them depending on where you live.

    I wish there were more quality gay movies but I guess the market isn't big enough for them. It takes a Brokeback Mountain to really generate the revenues I guess. Even gay porn could contain some sort of story line outside of the first 2 1/2 minutes, but it doesn't.
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    Jul 19, 2012 2:55 PM GMT
    JulesVerne saidI've noticed that I have a large Gay movie collection that I've accumulated over the years. To name a few: Jeffrey; Torchsong Trilogy; Philadelphia; Priscilla Queen of the Desert...

    Anyways, I was wondering why I had purchased some of them (about 150 movies now), as a lot were crappy, and the acting was really bad. There was a period where I just wanted to buy these movies to help support Gay causes, movies/filmmakers; help spread awareness, etc... And since I had started collecting these movies nearly a decade ago, I was wondering if I should keep them or just get rid of them, for a lot were so bad that I'll probably never watch them again.

    I am hoping you are not including Torch Song Trilogy among those as a crappy movie. Anne Bancroft is brilliant as the mother in that movie.
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    Jul 19, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
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    JulesVerne saidI've noticed that I have a large Gay movie collection that I've accumulated over the years. To name a few: Jeffrey; Torchsong Trilogy; Philadelphia; Priscilla Queen of the Desert...

    Anyways, I was wondering why I had purchased some of them (about 150 movies now), as a lot were crappy, and the acting was really bad. There was a period where I just wanted to buy these movies to help support Gay causes, movies/filmmakers; help spread awareness, etc... And since I had started collecting these movies nearly a decade ago, I was wondering if I should keep them or just get rid of them, for a lot were so bad that I'll probably never watch them again.

    I am hoping you are not including Torch Song Trilogy among those as a crappy movie. Anne Bancroft is brilliant as the mother in that movie.



    +100 Bancroft is beautiful in the film. There's a thing she does in the scene where she's fought with her son and is storming from the apartment, suit cases in hand: she stops short at the door and all the power in her shoulders breaks. It was so beautiful and I'm sure completely undirected. It came from consummate artistry as an actor. Eudora Welty once wrote, "Every feeling waits upon its gesture." She was talking about writing, but the remark serves as a concise definition of acting as an art, and Bancroft was one who understood this.
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    Jul 19, 2012 3:42 PM GMT
    I say donate all of them to the library. Even bad movies can satisfy that craving to see oneself represented, and for some people, that makes a huge difference.
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    Jul 19, 2012 4:11 PM GMT
    I've watched very few gay movies. And yes they were terrible. Seemed that everything in the movie was taking place in one big gay bubble. I know that a lot of guys live their lives in one big gay bubble but it didn't resonate with me.

    Also agree that most actors are chosen for looks and bodies over acting prowess. Makes sense though, when you consider that most gay men are easily distracted by the next good looking guy to cross their line of sight and have the attention span of a toddler in that regard.

    Of the good ones only 2 come to mind right now:
    Brokeback mountain
    Mambo Italiano
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    Jul 19, 2012 5:46 PM GMT
    I agree, the acting in some of the gay movies are really bad. I would toss the ones I don't like. Even if the actors were cute, but keep the classics.

    Gay vs mainstream movies are uncomparable. The budgets are so much bigger. Only one gay movie can compete with the maistream quality are the classiec, one of them being Maurice.
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    Jul 19, 2012 7:37 PM GMT
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    guyathome74 saidI just watched Prayers for Bobby. OMG it made me cry.. AnimatedGIF-CryingSmiley.gif
    Very sad story. Bobby was from a town about 5 miles from where I live. What's even sadder is to think that this could still happen in many places today.


    No it can't... that's why they put up suicide fences on every overpass in the state. Specifically because of that guy. It seemed like overreaction at the time. /hijack
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    Jul 19, 2012 7:56 PM GMT
    If I were closer I'd take all you gay movies! I love a good B-Rated movie once in a while... if its gay, then so what! Sometimes its good to remember why blockbusters sell out in the first place.
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    Jul 19, 2012 8:54 PM GMT
    Blueavenger saidMost gay movies are crap. Keep the gems. Donate the rest to a library.


    Now that I think about it more, this guy is kind of right. So many of them are crappy. So I guess you can keep the gems and donate the rest. But If I were you, I'd just have movie nights and keep the crappy ones for comedy laughs. But if you just have too many and its burden to stock them all..., well,...I'll be over later with a truck. icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 20, 2012 12:15 AM GMT
    welshmonkey saidWeekend is a great gay film, really subtle. Saw that at the cinema - so I still need to get the dvd.


    I'm being told by a bunch of people that "Weekend" is a GREAT GAY movie... I'll definitely look into it. Thanks for the movie recommendation & for responding.
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    Jul 20, 2012 12:22 AM GMT
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    You should start a trading or donating service here on RJ. The local library might keep them but any place else might just toss them depending on where you live.

    I wish there were more quality gay movies but I guess the market isn't big enough for them. It takes a Brokeback Mountain to really generate the revenues I guess. Even gay porn could contain some sort of story line outside of the first 2 1/2 minutes, but it doesn't.





    That trading idea is a pretty cool concept for RJ... Except people might feel weird about giving a P.O. Box or address to make the exchange. And, unfortunately, I do not have digital copies of any of them... And I live in the Palm Springs area, so if I took the videos to a library in Palm Springs...with the size of the Gay Community there, I'm sure they's have no problems taking the movies.
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    Jul 20, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
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    JulesVerne saidI've noticed that I have a large Gay movie collection that I've accumulated over the years. To name a few: Jeffrey; Torchsong Trilogy; Philadelphia; Priscilla Queen of the Desert...

    I am hoping you are not including Torch Song Trilogy among those as a crappy movie. Anne Bancroft is brilliant as the mother in that movie.



    NOO!!! Not at all. I love Torchsong Trilogy. The ones that I had mentioned above were some that I liked. But some others...YIKES! A video store by where I used to live was having a "going out of business" sale, and I thought, "Hmm... I'll buy ALL their Gay movies for cheap!" They only had about twenty five Gay movies, but that was 25 more than I had.
    After watching all of them, I felt that at least 75% of them were duds, and most of my friends that I hang out with don't like ANY GAY MOVIES (even though they're gay). Go figure!
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    Jul 20, 2012 12:53 AM GMT
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    welshmonkey saidWeekend is a great gay film, really subtle. Saw that at the cinema - so I still need to get the dvd.


    I'm being told by a bunch of people that "Weekend" is a GREAT GAY movie... I'll definitely look into it. Thanks for the movie recommendation & for responding.


    I did enjoy Weekend. My top three and the best to me are:

    Shelter
    Coffee Date (starring the beautiful Wilson Cruz)
    Dare (bisexual but the gay scene with Zach Gilford was hot)

    Honorable Mention:
    Hellbent (gay horror movie, one of a kind)
    Mambo Italiano
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    Jul 20, 2012 10:33 AM GMT
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    I did enjoy Weekend. My top three and the best to me are:

    Shelter
    Coffee Date (starring the beautiful Wilson Cruz)
    Dare (bisexual but the gay scene with Zach Gilford was hot)

    Honorable Mention:
    Hellbent (gay horror movie, one of a kind)
    Mambo Italiano


    I'll have to check those out. From your list, I've only seen Mambo Italiano.