Poor fellow in Ottawa! What's up with this?

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    Aug 08, 2008 12:49 AM GMT
    This message was sent out on the online gay prostate cancer support group that I belong to. The fellow may just be hysterical...but definitely he doesnt think he is getting care he needs. Is this a failing of the Canadian health system?


    Subject: [Prostate Cancer and Gay Men] Ottawa

    I Been Told The Cancer Has Moved Into My Liver And Theres No Hope
    Now I Cant Get Anyone At The Hospital To Call Me Back To Set Up The Treatment Plan

    Told I Only Have Weeks Left And Then Nothing

    HELP , ANYONE

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    Aug 08, 2008 2:06 AM GMT

    My brother-in-law is a well known oncologist.

    Where is this person living in Canada and what website were you on?
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    Aug 08, 2008 5:09 AM GMT
    I hope this is not one of those things where someone asks for money to save their life or weasels someone out of money. From what I have seen there are some pretty low people that would do something like this believe it or not.
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    Aug 08, 2008 5:13 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    My brother-in-law is a well known oncologist.

    Where is this person living in Canada and what website were you on?


    He's in Ottawa.


    activeandfitI hope this is not one of those things where someone asks for money to save their life or weasels someone out of money.


    I copied his full email above. You can see he isnt asking for money.
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    Aug 08, 2008 5:14 AM GMT
    Here is something to look at in case it is a scam ..

    http://www.scambusters.org/cancerfraud.html
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    Aug 08, 2008 5:16 AM GMT


    "I copied his full email above. You can see he isnt asking for money"


    ...you did?
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    Aug 08, 2008 5:20 AM GMT
    Caslon6000 saidI copied his full email above. You can see he isnt asking for money.
    Well it could be real, but it seems suspicious to me. If he was diagnosed with 2 weeks to live, do they just put them on the street? Also why would he ask for help .. what would he expect someone to do? Sometimes scam artists go fishing this way. Draw people in and then ask for money. You could respond to it and then see what happens.
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    Aug 08, 2008 5:25 AM GMT


    I'll admit to being a tad confused.

    Neither of us have ever heard of this happening anywhere in Canada.

    The cancer has spread from the prostate into the liver, which is invariably fatal, so what is the treatment he's being denied? A transplant?

    ...email address Caslon 'copied in'? Can't see it.

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    Aug 08, 2008 6:18 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    I'll admit to being a tad confused.

    Neither of us have ever heard of this happening anywhere in Canada.

    The cancer has spread from the prostate into the liver, which is invariably fatal, so what is the treatment he's being denied? A transplant?

    ...email address Caslon 'copied in'? Can't see it.



    I'm pretty sure that Caslon meant the body of the email message, not the person's email address. (I'd hope we all have enough common sense not to post others' email addresses on a public forum.)

    I hope this gentlemen gets the help that he needs.


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    Aug 08, 2008 6:30 AM GMT
    AH! Gotcha! Thanks 'ruck us'. I was confused because I'd originally asked specifically for a website, to read about the guy and what had happened that the Canadian health care system was possibly failing him, but if that's all the info there is, that caslon posted originally, then it's all twiddle and wild conjecture.

    No, I wouldn't want his email address.

    ...still curious as to what treatment he was being denied.
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    Aug 08, 2008 2:14 PM GMT
    I am not sure why this individual is having issues but I know for a fact that the Canadian Health Care system is straining at the seams. Overcrowded emergency rooms, lack of doctors in rural areas and small cities, a lack of nurses, long waiting lists for getting important tests done, or for surgery, etc..

    The quality of care you receive depends partially on where you live. Provinces are responsible for funding the health care system. Part of the costs are borne by the Federal government through transfer payments to the provinces, but not all. Therefore, a very rich province like Alberta (huge budget surpluses due to the oil industry) can afford better health care services then a poorer province like New Brunswick. Furthermore, provinces are raiding each other for scarce doctors and nurses.

    The health care system is also bureaucratic and there are some unfortunate built-in incentives for doctors to boost their incomes through unnecessary surgery or by ordering unnecessary tests. A lack of doctors also creates a bottleneck in the Emergency wards. People will go there to receive treatment when in the past they would go to a general physician.

    Finally with baby boomers aging, and the advances in medical care, people are living longer. Old people use the health care system a lot more than others. So I don't see the system improving anytime soon.

    I am presently related to four doctors so I quite often hear about the problems the system is having whether I want to or not!
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    Aug 08, 2008 3:11 PM GMT
    I live in Ottawa, ON, Canada and I find the post puzzling and certainly somewhat suspect. icon_neutral.gif

    For the past 2 years, my family has had lots of exposure to the cancer services here as both our parents were diagnosed, and provided treatment in a caring and compassionate manner.

    The message posted to the gay support site doesn't provide any context as ActiveAndFit denotes in his post.

    If a diagnosis has been made then the fellow must have an oncologist who can provide information on what the next steps are.

    What would be terribly sad is if the fellow is going through this experience alone. Without someone there with you at the meetings with the doctors, oncologists it is easy to miss vital information.



    For more information on the Ottawa Hospital Cancer Centre:

    http://www.ottawahospital.on.ca/sc/cancer/index-e.aspicon_exclaim.gif