Transgender Son, Stephen Ira, of Warren Beatty, Annette Bening Answers Questions

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    Jul 21, 2012 5:58 PM GMT
    WATCH: Transgender Son of Warren Beatty, Annette Bening Answers Questions


    http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2012/07/18/watch-transgender-son-warren-beatty-annette-bening-answers-questions

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    Jul 21, 2012 10:07 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?


    Correction, your an a**hole.
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    Jul 21, 2012 10:10 PM GMT
    Which way is Ira transing? I dont know how he/she began. Maybe I should watch the video....altho i am not all that interested. Ok, sounds like he was born a girl and is transing to a male.

    So let's see. He was born female and likes males. Which would make him straight. But doesnt like his female body, so he's transing to male. But he still likes boys. So he is now gay.

    He really really wants to rack up points on the persecution scale. Good thing his parents are rich.
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    Jul 21, 2012 10:15 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?




    So she is trying to become a he but enjoys acting Fem. The wonders of Drugs!
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    Jul 21, 2012 10:34 PM GMT
    I found him infectiously likable, while exhausting to listen to all
    at the same time. I hope he learns to slow it down because he is a really bright kid with much to share
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    Jul 21, 2012 10:43 PM GMT
    InsatiableBloom said
    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?


    Correction, your an a**hole.


    Then you must be an ankle 3 ft lower.
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    Jul 21, 2012 10:49 PM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    InsatiableBloom said
    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?


    Correction, your an a**hole.


    Then you must be an ankle 3 ft lower.


    It amazes me that gay people fight for their rights, but when someone else is different than them they are shunned. Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.
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    Jul 21, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
    InsatiableBloom said
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    InsatiableBloom said
    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?


    Correction, your an a**hole.


    Then you must be an ankle 3 ft lower.


    It amazes me that gay people fight for their rights, but when someone else is different than them they are shunned. Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    You're talking to two people who couldn't care less about gay rights. they're self-hating gay conservatives. Tru_blu_auzzie himself said he doesn't support gay marriage.

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    Jul 21, 2012 11:05 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said
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    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?




    So she is trying to become a he but enjoys acting Fem. The wonders of Drugs!


    And the whole world is supposed to stop, and marvel.


    Seriously!!! I mean REALLY!!!!!

    After all, YOU are a Gay Man with a HUGE vagina yet we don't all flock to the Jersey Turnpike to marvel!!!!

    If we ever really wanna marvel at you all we have to do is read yer grade-school level, dime-store posts on RJ.

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    Jul 21, 2012 11:10 PM GMT
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    Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    Someone sounds bitter and resentful...
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    Jul 21, 2012 11:14 PM GMT
    Dagomir said
    InsatiableBloom said
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    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?


    Correction, your an a**hole.


    Then you must be an ankle 3 ft lower.


    It amazes me that gay people fight for their rights, but when someone else is different than them they are shunned. Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    You're talking to two people who couldn't care less about gay rights. they're self-hating gay conservatives. Tru_blu_auzzie himself said he doesn't support gay marriage.



    Gender Identity and Sexual Orientation can be two VERY seperate issues.

    Many of the members of RJ are very identified with their masculinity and most (though clearly not all) are quite comfortable with their physical, emotional, and spiritual attraction to other Men.

    Now immagine if we had been born with a woman's body. But STILL felt that We were essentially Men. It is NOT the same as being a Straight Female - although it is easily percieved that way.

    Our attractions would not change.

    And none of us (for the most part) wants to be a Straight Woman who likes Men.

    We are MEN who like/love Men.

    It is merely the difference between Identity and Orientation.

    The only thing Tru_blu_auzzie supports is a bottle of Scotch directly into his mouth beginning around 8:30AM.
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    Jul 21, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
    Also, gay and transgender are VERY different and shouldn't be lumped together. Transgender people have a whole set of different challenges and a different identity than gay people. Gay = sexual attraction, trans = what gender you see yourself as.
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    Jul 21, 2012 11:29 PM GMT
    Firebrand said
    InsatiableBloom said
    Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    Someone sounds bitter and resentful...


    Is that a bad thing?

    I know people who have killed themselves because the world didn't love them for who they naturally are. If people in the gay community can't sympathize with someone who is "different", then I don't know who can.
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    Jul 21, 2012 11:35 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI found him infectiously likable, while exhausting to listen to all
    at the same time. I hope he learns to slow it down because he is a really bright kid with much to share
    He's a Californian.. we all talk that way!
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    Jul 21, 2012 11:37 PM GMT
    Cash said
    Dagomir said
    InsatiableBloom said
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    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?


    Correction, your an a**hole.


    Then you must be an ankle 3 ft lower.


    It amazes me that gay people fight for their rights, but when someone else is different than them they are shunned. Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    You're talking to two people who couldn't care less about gay rights. they're self-hating gay conservatives. Tru_blu_auzzie himself said he doesn't support gay marriage.



    Gender Identity and Sexual Orientation can be two VERY seperate issues.

    Many of the members of RJ are very identified with their masculinity and most (though clearly not all) are quite comfortable with their physical, emotional, and spiritual attraction to other Men.

    Now immagine if we had been born with a woman's body. But STILL felt that We were essentially Men. It is NOT the same as being a Straight Female - although it is easily percieved that way.

    Our attractions would not change.

    And none of us (for the most part) wants to be a Straight Woman who likes Men.

    We are MEN who like/love Men.

    It is merely the difference between Identity and Orientation.

    The only thing Tru_blu_auzzie supports is a bottle of Scotch directly into his mouth beginning around 8:30AM.


    you misunderstood. of course they are separate issues. I wasn't implying transgender rights was the same thing as gay rights. Although since Stephen Ira is a male-identified FTM who is attracted to the same sex and can pass as male, he will have to deal with homophobia like other gay men.

    I was responding to the implication that the quoted trolls fight for their own rights as gay men, but they shun others who are different from them. But they don't actually fight for their own rights.

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    Jul 21, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
    Dagomir said
    InsatiableBloom said
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    InsatiableBloom said
    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?


    Correction, your an a**hole.


    Then you must be an ankle 3 ft lower.


    It amazes me that gay people fight for their rights, but when someone else is different than them they are shunned. Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    You're talking to two people who couldn't care less about gay rights. they're self-hating gay conservatives. Tru_blu_auzzie himself said he doesn't support gay marriage.



    But you also omitted that one has stated many time, I support 100% Civil Unions; because I feel with will see the advancement of progress if we move away from the term gay marriage, after all, it's no longer marriage anyways is it.

    Being out before the age of 10 in the 1960s in the Aussie bush and refusing to step down, no matter what they had done to me; self loathing hardly. But we can not support all things either now can we.
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    Jul 21, 2012 11:50 PM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie said

    But you
    No, patty.. he described you to a 'tea'...... a long island one!

    Go have another.icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 21, 2012 11:52 PM GMT
    Dagomir said
    Cash said
    Dagomir said
    InsatiableBloom said
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    InsatiableBloom said
    JackBlair69 saidSo it has a vagina, and lives as a gay man. So it's a straight woman who acts like a man, then. Correct?


    Correction, your an a**hole.


    Then you must be an ankle 3 ft lower.


    It amazes me that gay people fight for their rights, but when someone else is different than them they are shunned. Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    You're talking to two people who couldn't care less about gay rights. they're self-hating gay conservatives. Tru_blu_auzzie himself said he doesn't support gay marriage.



    Gender Identity and Sexual Orientation can be two VERY seperate issues.

    Many of the members of RJ are very identified with their masculinity and most (though clearly not all) are quite comfortable with their physical, emotional, and spiritual attraction to other Men.

    Now immagine if we had been born with a woman's body. But STILL felt that We were essentially Men. It is NOT the same as being a Straight Female - although it is easily percieved that way.

    Our attractions would not change.

    And none of us (for the most part) wants to be a Straight Woman who likes Men.

    We are MEN who like/love Men.

    It is merely the difference between Identity and Orientation.

    The only thing Tru_blu_auzzie supports is a bottle of Scotch directly into his mouth beginning around 8:30AM.


    you misunderstood. of course they are separate issues. I wasn't implying transgender rights was the same thing as gay rights. Although since Stephen Ira is a male-identified FTM who is attracted to the same sex and can pass as male, he will have to deal with homophobia like other gay men.

    I was responding to the implication that the quoted trolls fight for their own rights as gay men, but they shun others who are different from them. But they don't actually fight for their own rights.



    Oh but when homosexuality was still illegal and classed as a mental health issue, one did stand up and fight, and also helped bring about a change, where in my state it's now decriminalised, and no longer classed as a mental health issue. But as a homosexual male I also do not relate to a women who thinks she is a man, as I know there is more to being a man than whats between your ears.

    Oh It's now 9:45am Sunday, and i get a day off, and about to go out into the garden, and just had a pot of tea. cashless bastardisations do not hurt one, as the people who matter know the truth, Oh I also do night shifts and 8:30 in the morning can be = to 8:30 PMicon_wink.gif

    But if you want to talk about bitter go to cash.icon_idea.gif
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    Jul 21, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
    InsatiableBloom said
    Firebrand said
    InsatiableBloom said
    Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    Someone sounds bitter and resentful...


    Is that a bad thing?

    I know people who have killed themselves because the world didn't love them for who they naturally are. If people in the gay community can't sympathize with someone who is "different", then I don't know who can.


    Many gay people who scream acceptance are the least accepting. Now many of these people here at RJ are also liberals who have also promoted the conservatives at RJ to self harm; go figure.
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    tru_blu_auzzie said But as a homosexual male I also do not relate to a women who thinks she is a man, as I know there is more to being a man than whats between your ears.

    How can you know that? There isnt anything between yours! You really must be that woman we all think you are!
    Have another cocktail, patty.

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    Jul 22, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    InsatiableBloom said
    Firebrand said
    InsatiableBloom said
    Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    Someone sounds bitter and resentful...


    Is that a bad thing?

    I know people who have killed themselves because the world didn't love them for who they naturally are. If people in the gay community can't sympathize with someone who is "different", then I don't know who can.
    he gay people who scream acceptance are the least accepting. Now many of these people here at RJ are also liberals who have also promoted the conservatives at RJ to self harm; go figure.



    How have I in any way indicated for others to self harm??
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    Jul 22, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    InsatiableBloom said
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    InsatiableBloom said
    Firebrand said
    InsatiableBloom said
    Not everyone can be masc, musc, and ignorant.


    Someone sounds bitter and resentful...


    Is that a bad thing?

    I know people who have killed themselves because the world didn't love them for who they naturally are. If people in the gay community can't sympathize with someone who is "different", then I don't know who can.
    he gay people who scream acceptance are the least accepting. Now many of these people here at RJ are also liberals who have also promoted the conservatives at RJ to self harm; go figure.



    How have I in any way indicated for others to self harm??


    Did one say your name!
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    Jul 23, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    Impressive.

    Confident, smart, funny and very interesting.
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    Nov 16, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
    Warren Beatty and Annette Bening's Transgender Son Stephen Appears in New PSA

    http://www.rainbow411.com/article/news-warren-beatty-and-annette-benings-transgender-son-stephen-appears-in-new-psawatch-the-video.html