Supporter can't be openly gay for McCain

  • swimbikerun

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    Aug 08, 2008 5:48 PM GMT
    Democrat is gay, for McCain, but can't get a sign to prove it

    by PageOneQ

    A donation to the presidential campaign of GOP Senator John McCain is not enough for full creative control over one's signs supporting him, reported Examiner.com on Wednesday.

    The McCain campaign store, for $250, will customize a 3-by-6 foot outdoor banner, but as gay Democrat and McCain supporter Craig Brownstein of Washington's Edelman PR learned, what goes on the banner is subject to "content approval" by the campaign. Brownstein was told that his selection, "A Proud Gay Democrat for John McCain," was rejected. The representative told him over the phone that the banner "could only be personalized with names."

    According to the McCain campaign store,"Demeaning or derogatory names or phrases are not acceptable."


    http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/gaymccain080708.html
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    Aug 08, 2008 7:41 PM GMT
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    Why doesn't it surprise me.

    Demeaning or derogatory names or phrases are not acceptable.

    Dayum... so are the Gay Republicans here still voting for him?
  • Buddha

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    Aug 08, 2008 8:27 PM GMT
    I still don't see why you wouldn't vote for McCain. It's like a Jew voting for Hitler, don't see anything wrong with that.
  • GQjock

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    Aug 08, 2008 10:03 PM GMT
    But .... STILL ....

    Given that...... and...icon_rolleyes.gif

    Given that his energy policy is for SH*T to put mildly

    Given that he's voted against the Veterans at every given opportunity

    Given that he's flipped on every given policy and is in lock step with the Bush Admin on EVERYTHING

    .......... people are still gonna vote for him

  • auryn

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    Aug 08, 2008 10:16 PM GMT
    Must be a slow news day.

    The person mentioned in the article should have known better. I mean, come on... has he not been paying attention?

    Serves him right for being an idiot, so he can stop his bitchin'.

    Whaaaaaaaa. I gave you money and you still won't let me play in your reindeer games. Whaaaaaaa. dork
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    Aug 08, 2008 10:36 PM GMT
    buddha_the_go said; "I still don't see why you wouldn't vote for McCain. It's like a Jew voting for Hitler, don't see anything wrong with that."
    Quit being such a drama queen. No one is putting us in concentration camps.

    Voting for Barack Obama is like voting for Neville Chamberlan.

    Speaking of early Nazi expansion, I hope president Bush sends American fighters over to Georgia to run those damn Russians out. It's an opportunity to see what our DU darts do to their new tanks.

    If you want an example of modern day Nazi expansion, it's going on right now in Georgia.





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    Aug 08, 2008 10:48 PM GMT
    Sorry...but umm did he expect otherwise?
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    Aug 08, 2008 10:54 PM GMT
    LOL! There is a McCain advertisement here. No Lie! Matter of fact...look!

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    So he can advertise on here, but no one can advertise openly in public? LOL!
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    Aug 08, 2008 10:59 PM GMT
    In2Lectual saidLOL! There is a McCain advertisement here. No Lie! Matter of fact...look!

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    So he can advertise on here, but no one can advertise openly in public? LOL!


    His ads are all over the site... kinda like barking up the wrong tree. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 08, 2008 11:06 PM GMT
    John43620 saidbuddha_the_go said; "I still don't see why you wouldn't vote for McCain. It's like a Jew voting for Hitler, don't see anything wrong with that."
    Quit being such a drama queen. No one is putting us in concentration camps.

    Voting for Barack Obama is like voting for Neville Chamberlan.

    Speaking of early Nazi expansion, I hope president Bush sends American fighters over to Georgia to run those damn Russians out. It's an opportunity to see what our DU darts do to their new tanks.

    If you want an example of modern day Nazi expansion, it's going on right now in Georgia.






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    Great...you should lead a unit over there. I'll write a letter to the Secretary of Defense highlighting your committment to obliterating those commi's once and for all!!!!!!!

    God Bless America......AND ONLY AMERICA!icon_rolleyes.gifuhno.gif


    Oh crap...I forgot we are already in Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh well...I guess I should put away my special John Hancock Pensmackhim.gif
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    Aug 08, 2008 11:28 PM GMT
    I am glad you bring this up. Although I have already decided to vote for Barack, in other forums the issue of discrimination against Gays has come up (http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/254098/). I know Barack supports ENDA (to provide work place protection for Gays) but McCain says nothing about it that I can find.

    He apparently voted no on something like it before in a 49 to 50 vote. (Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996) ) http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/john_mccain.htm

    at http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm He addresses "Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life" Well apparently the dignity of being Gay and being able to have a Job without discrimination is not a Human Dignity issue to him.

    Sure, we can live without marriage, but without jobs? I would hope Gays who are going to vote for McCain would not consider this an issue that does not concern them. I have a feeling that sometimes when people don't directly experience discrimination they don't appreciate it's gravity. Human/Civil rights is what stand between us and the "totalitarian" governments we hate.

    BTW, if McCain and the like really want to protect the "Sanctity of Marriage" why doesn't he move to ban divorce? Hypocrisy abounds, and the words of the right lead to second class citizenship for Gays. Are you second class?


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    Aug 08, 2008 11:34 PM GMT
    Ortho Jock, no, that's a great idea. I'd give a right testicle to get back into the Army. I've been patiently waiting for them to call me back but apparently they have no use for a retired tanker right now.

    Thanks buddy.
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    Aug 08, 2008 11:38 PM GMT
    RyanReBoRn said
    In2Lectual saidLOL! There is a McCain advertisement here. No Lie! Matter of fact...look!

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    So he can advertise on here, but no one can advertise openly in public? LOL!


    His ads are all over the site... kinda like barking up the wrong tree. icon_rolleyes.gif


    lmao
  • SkyMiles

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    Aug 08, 2008 11:46 PM GMT
    McBush will be more than happy to take your vote and your money! No questions asked, um, so to speak.

    But as for marriage, serving openly in the military, being equal under the law, or not being the victim of a hate crime...well, not so much. icon_confused.gif

  • GQjock

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    Aug 09, 2008 12:05 AM GMT
    Ummm...
    John?
    Didya ever think they'd take you even if you were 18

    ...but you told them ya might wanna sleep with a guy now and then?
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    Aug 09, 2008 12:16 AM GMT
    Bush is doing photo ops with his butt buddy Vlad in Beijing. I doubt he will side with the Georgians (who the Russians are calling rebels).

    Georgia has oil.
  • Buddha

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    Aug 09, 2008 12:24 AM GMT
    John43620 said
    Quit being such a drama queen. No one is putting us in concentration camps.


    Rather live in concentration camps than in a world with Cain as the next World President.
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    Aug 09, 2008 2:07 PM GMT
    John43620 saidOrtho Jock, no, that's a great idea. I'd give a right testicle to get back into the Army. I've been patiently waiting for them to call me back but apparently they have no use for a retired tanker right now.

    Thanks buddy.


    You're out of the closet now. They don't want you back. Maybe you can go to one of these countries sometime...they'd allow you to serve openly:

    Australia
    Austria
    Belgium
    Canada
    Czech Republic
    Denmark
    Estonia
    Finland
    France
    Germany
    Ireland
    Israel
    Italy
    Lithuania
    Luxembourg
    The Netherlands
    New Zealand
    Norway
    Slovenia
    South Africa
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland
    the United Kingdom
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 09, 2008 2:19 PM GMT
    Sedative saidicon_lol.gif

    Why doesn't it surprise me.

    Demeaning or derogatory names or phrases are not acceptable.

    Dayum... so are the Gay Republicans here still voting for him?




    Uhhhh, YEAH, being GAY is not an "issue" in my world






    buddha_the_god said
    John43620 said
    Quit being such a drama queen. No one is putting us in concentration camps.


    Rather live in concentration camps than in a world with Cain as the next World President.



    Yep, drama queen! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 09, 2008 2:21 PM GMT
    buddha_the_god said
    John43620 said
    Quit being such a drama queen. No one is putting us in concentration camps.


    Rather live in concentration camps than in a world with Cain as the next World President.


    Yeah, I don't think you should even joke about that one man. Even though things with McCain wouldn't be good in the US, don't undercut the severity of the holocaust. That's a definite slap in the face to many people that have absolutely nothing to do with McCain.
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    Aug 09, 2008 2:41 PM GMT
    MAJOR EDIT! whew


    Are you serious, CuriousJock? Instaed of replying to jokes why don't you give us your opinion on what ActiveAndFit said:



    ActiveAndFit saidI am glad you bring this up. Although I have already decided to vote for Barack, in other forums the issue of discrimination against Gays has come up (http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/254098/). I know Barack supports ENDA (to provide work place protection for Gays) but McCain says nothing about it that I can find.

    He apparently voted no on something like it before in a 49 to 50 vote. (Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996) ) http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/john_mccain.htm

    at http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm He addresses "Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life" Well apparently the dignity of being Gay and being able to have a Job without discrimination is not a Human Dignity issue to him.

    Sure, we can live without marriage, but without jobs? I would hope Gays who are going to vote for McCain would not consider this an issue that does not concern them. I have a feeling that sometimes when people don't directly experience discrimination they don't appreciate it's gravity. Human/Civil rights is what stand between us and the "totalitarian" governments we hate.

    BTW, if McCain and the like really want to protect the "Sanctity of Marriage" why doesn't he move to ban divorce? Hypocrisy abounds, and the words of the right lead to second class citizenship for Gays. Are you second class?





    You gay (most likely) and you pprobably also have a job. Ergo, this issue is of importance to you.
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    Aug 09, 2008 3:00 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said

    Uhhhh, YEAH, being GAY is not an "issue" in my world



    icon_rolleyes.gif Why doesn't that surprise me either?
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    Aug 09, 2008 3:14 PM GMT
    I checked into enlisting into the Canadian military. They require Canadian citizenship. I'll sacrifice a lot, but not my American citizenship.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 09, 2008 4:19 PM GMT
    RyanReBoRn said MAJOR EDIT! whew


    Are you serious, CuriousJock? Instaed of replying to jokes why don't you give us your opinion on what ActiveAndFit said:



    ActiveAndFit saidI am glad you bring this up. Although I have already decided to vote for Barack, in other forums the issue of discrimination against Gays has come up (http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/254098/). I know Barack supports ENDA (to provide work place protection for Gays) but McCain says nothing about it that I can find.

    He apparently voted no on something like it before in a 49 to 50 vote. (Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996) ) http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/john_mccain.htm

    at http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm He addresses "Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life" Well apparently the dignity of being Gay and being able to have a Job without discrimination is not a Human Dignity issue to him.

    Sure, we can live without marriage, but without jobs? I would hope Gays who are going to vote for McCain would not consider this an issue that does not concern them. I have a feeling that sometimes when people don't directly experience discrimination they don't appreciate it's gravity. Human/Civil rights is what stand between us and the "totalitarian" governments we hate.

    BTW, if McCain and the like really want to protect the "Sanctity of Marriage" why doesn't he move to ban divorce? Hypocrisy abounds, and the words of the right lead to second class citizenship for Gays. Are you second class?





    You gay (most likely) and you pprobably also have a job. Ergo, this issue is of importance to you.




    I'm just giving my opinion based on my own life in terms of how "Gay" is a part of it. It's not something that really affects my decisions in terms of how I vote. Gay "issues" (and I'm just speaking for myself) simply aren't something that mean all that much to me. I don't feel discriminated against...I don't really even think about gay marriage...Gay issues just aren't really on my radar, sorry, I guess maybe they should be, but they just aren't. If they are important to you, or anyone else, and you want to go march in the streets or shout your opinions from the rooftops -- more power to you -- I simply have other priorities or issues that are more important to me personally. But that's just ME. In terms of specifically what ActiveandFit said, he's entitled to his opinion, but the things he cited only tell part of the story. It's like people waging the argument that McCain doesn't support our Vets because he voted against this bill or that bill. NOT TRUE. If ANYONE supports our Vets, it's John McCain. He voted against the bill because it wasn't a good bill, or a fair bill, and the Vets deserved a better bill.
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    Aug 09, 2008 4:36 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said It's like people waging the argument that McCain doesn't support our Vets because he voted against this bill or that bill. NOT TRUE. If ANYONE supports our Vets, it's John McCain. He voted against the bill because it wasn't a good bill, or a fair bill, and the Vets deserved a better bill.


    And yet. And yet.

    The Republicans had total control of all three branches of government from the time of the invasion until January of 2007. Doing something for the veterans wasn't even on the legislative radar ALL THAT TIME.

    But now, the Democrats come up with a bill, and it's somehow "not a good bill, not a fair bill, and the Vets deserved a better bill."

    That you can't see how twisted this is amazes me, even for you.