STRAIGHT Women in GAY Clubs

  • Paradigm_Shif...

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    Aug 08, 2008 10:43 PM GMT
    How do you feel about seeing straight women in gay clubs?

    Last week I was hanging in a gay club with some gay friends and we saw not One, but TWO obnoxious bachelorette parties (complete with a full entourage a bride's maids and a bride to be with a Tiara). One of my friends got really angry at them and made a comment that I thought rang really true.

    "Its like they're going to a Zoo!!"

    A few days later two straight female co-workers came over to my desk all excited. The asked "Hey, we need you to take us to a gay club!!! We need an in!!".

    I personally find it kind of annoying that so many straight women think "Hey it would be SOOOO FUNN!! to go to a gay club!!!" In my opinion I want to go to a gay club to hang with GAY MEN!!! lol.

    So do you agree or do you think gay clubs should be more open?


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    Aug 08, 2008 10:50 PM GMT
    Man, I dont think theres something wrong with that...

    you said "Its like they're going to a Zoo!!"

    Does that mean that you think the same when you go to a straight club?

    I live in Montreal and theres a whole gay village here, full of gay, lesbian and straight people, you can find anything there, and suddenly straight people rather to go to gay clubs cause its more fun, they sense freedom and whatever you do will look good and no one will care.

    So why not all be together? I think is nice, Ive danced with women at gay clubs and many other guys do the same, you are there to have fun no sex.

    All this PLUS the fact that many women as many men find really hot two guys/girls together, where else can they go?
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    Aug 08, 2008 10:52 PM GMT
    Also, there's probably something to be said about straight women wanting to be in a bar/club environment where they aren't getting hit on, and they can still check out guys.

    So, let them have at it.
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    Aug 08, 2008 10:54 PM GMT
    I've had the best times at clubs with a mix of gay and straight people. I think it just makes for a more interesting mix and vibe. I can't imagine ever wanting to exlude women or straight guys. That is just discrimination as far as I'm concerned and we should all be more inclusive and less exclusive.
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    Aug 08, 2008 10:58 PM GMT
    This thread just got me thinking about a recent experience at a club. This hot girl was there - even I, a gay man, thought she was hot. She was going around from guy to guy posing all sexy with them and having her friends take pictures. I was pretty flatered when she asked if she could have her picture taken with me. I was sitting at the bar and she straddled me. Anyhow, it added to the night for me so I say YES - let the straight girls in.
  • Paradigm_Shif...

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    Aug 08, 2008 11:17 PM GMT
    Im not saying that there should be a bouncer blocking every single women at the door. I've had fun hanging with straight women at clubs, and there is nothing wrong with a women coming to a gay bar to just have a good time. Hell, that same night I danced several times with this straight chick who was next to me. But she was there to dance and have a good time.

    I get annoyed when these large GROUPS of women come into the club and act all obnoxious, like they are surprised none of the guys want to talk to them... lol. They keep traveling around the club kinda gawking and laughing....

    I do think some women view gay clubs almost like a Zoo, and thats just really disrespectful.
  • GQjock

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    Aug 08, 2008 11:37 PM GMT
    It's ok....
    But Charlitos is right
    It is like they're at the zoo!

    A couple of months ago I was dancing at a club
    with a friend of mine
    and this sorority sister sauntered over and said...
    Oooh, can I touch?
    and began petting my Chest!!!

    My friend started laughing hysterically
    because he knows how much I hate unwanted groping
    and says ... You don't know how much trouble you're in

    But I was in a fun mood and started dirty dancing with her icon_rolleyes.gif

    But dam... you go to a gay club to meet guys and you get GIRLS???
    That Sux icon_confused.gif
  • VinBaltimore

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    Aug 08, 2008 11:40 PM GMT
    Greg0201 saidAlso, there's probably something to be said about straight women wanting to be in a bar/club environment where they aren't getting hit on, and they can still check out guys.

    So, let them have at it.


    That and, atleast here, if you want good dance music the gay club is definitely your best bet.
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    Aug 08, 2008 11:40 PM GMT
    It's cool, as long as they don't try to "occupy" the men's room. I mean, I don't care if they go in there to take a leak, but they shouldn't close the outer door (if any)and cause a line to form.

    BTW: The Boys and Girls Guide to Getting Down had a funny segment about The Fauxmosexual, who hangs out at gay bars to hit on the unsuspecting women who go there.
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    Aug 08, 2008 11:48 PM GMT
    its not strange @ all i have alot of str8 friends Guys and girls that like to go to a gay club .. beacuse it is more fun.. then str8 clubs all my str8 friends are hating gay clubs .. i'v been seeing alot more of my fstr8 friends doing that latly..

    the tell me that str8 clubs the pll there are mean..and boring so they go to gay clubs..the more the merry to me.. and i'm gay..just let dem party and hang out with your men friends...
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    Aug 09, 2008 4:25 AM GMT
    Back in the 60's and 70's, when whites used to got to black clubs for the experience it was called "slumming". It's inherently insulting to whatever minority's space is being intruded upon.
    You have to ask: why would str8 women at a bridal shower want to go to a gay bar? For a good laugh. Do you enjoy being laughed at by str8 people?
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    Aug 09, 2008 4:37 AM GMT
    Its fine to me, but the club often turns straight soon after they start coming in numbers..back in the 80's Austin had Halls, the "premier" gay bar of the time in all of Texas and it started attracting lots of girls who wanted to dance and party with the fags...eventually they brought their reluctant bf's with them and there ended up being lots of (verbal) bashing and the gays quit showing up and it became a dreadful straight bar, then closed down. Same thing happened to the other gay bar across the street called "The Boat House" - if anyone on this site, in Texas remembers it. Badlands in SF in the Castro now attracts lots of bridge and tunnel straights - when I was there last anyway.
  • Mars

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    Aug 09, 2008 4:55 AM GMT
    chicago_barry saidBack in the 60's and 70's, when whites used to got to black clubs for the experience it was called "slumming". It's inherently insulting to whatever minority's space is being intruded upon.
    You have to ask: why would str8 women at a bridal shower want to go to a gay bar? For a good laugh. Do you enjoy being laughed at by str8 people?


    That seems like a classic example of a very broad generalization. Aren't we trying to gain... What was that word again??... Oh yeah! EQUALITY. To me that isn't the same thing as exclusivity. If we want to be treated as equals, we need to treat as equals.

    As far as the comments about visiting the zoo, there are some people who go the the 'zoo', not only to have a good time, but to learn. And some people do actually learn.

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    Aug 09, 2008 4:59 AM GMT
    I've got NO problems with straight girls in gay clubs. I definately understand/appreciate that it's a place that they can go to have fun and not have to deal with sleazy guys trying to take them home. What I DO have a problem with is when they try to make the club their own (dancing on the bar/stage the ENTIRE night, blatently trying to make themselves the center of attention. etc).
    I try to be pretty open minded about everything, but it really does piss me off when girls come into gay clubs with an attitude of entitlement.
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    Aug 09, 2008 5:02 AM GMT
    VinBaltimore said
    Greg0201 saidAlso, there's probably something to be said about straight women wanting to be in a bar/club environment where they aren't getting hit on, and they can still check out guys.

    So, let them have at it.


    That and, atleast here, if you want good dance music the gay club is definitely your best bet.


    Woah, I disagree with that. Lol. Music at gay clubs (usually) SUCKS.
  • B71115

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    Aug 09, 2008 5:07 AM GMT
    the ONLY gay club we have in my town is being taken over by straight girls and the guys they bring. it makes it tough to know who is straight and who is gay, aside from all the room they take up. it's time we got straight people their own place to hang out. oh, that's right. EVERY OTHER PLACE IS THEIRS. i'm all for equality but it's not like we have much that's our own. when i can walk through the mall in any city in the country and hold a guy's hand without worrying, THEN i'll accept straight people flowing over in our clubs. i personally would like a few places we can have to ourselves. it's not like we can walk through a mall and know for sure who might be a candidate for a date. sure, there's gaydar, but there are plenty of eligible men you might never pick out of a mixed crowd. we have limited places where we can meet potential dates/bfs in person. we need a comfortable place to socialize. the pressure of having to mix is enough for some of us. we don't need YET ANOTHER PRESSURE ADDED ON US (hmmm, is he looking at me? hmmm, oh yeah, and is he GAY?) sorry but this is a touchy subject to me. i lived in the straight world for a long time and it was refreshing when i found a world i could feel like i fit in. now there are too many places where i can't be sure again.
  • MuslDrew

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    Aug 09, 2008 5:15 AM GMT
    I'm glad the gay clubs can be visible to the public and that straight people aren't weorded out by going into one. We want equality, inclusion, acceptance, etc., so we need to do all that in return. But the more gay men there are, the merrier I am.
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    Aug 09, 2008 7:24 AM GMT
    B71115 saidthe ONLY gay club we have in my town is being taken over by straight girls and the guys they bring. it makes it tough to know who is straight and who is gay, aside from all the room they take up. it's time we got straight people their own place to hang out. oh, that's right. EVERY OTHER PLACE IS THEIRS. i'm all for equality but it's not like we have much that's our own. when i can walk through the mall in any city in the country and hold a guy's hand without worrying, THEN i'll accept straight people flowing over in our clubs. i personally would like a few places we can have to ourselves. it's not like we can walk through a mall and know for sure who might be a candidate for a date. sure, there's gaydar, but there are plenty of eligible men you might never pick out of a mixed crowd. we have limited places where we can meet potential dates/bfs in person. we need a comfortable place to socialize. the pressure of having to mix is enough for some of us. we don't need YET ANOTHER PRESSURE ADDED ON US (hmmm, is he looking at me? hmmm, oh yeah, and is he GAY?) sorry but this is a touchy subject to me. i lived in the straight world for a long time and it was refreshing when i found a world i could feel like i fit in. now there are too many places where i can't be sure again.
    THERE WAS A TIME when gay bars and clubs used to be underground; its exclusive and yet, you feel safe and free knowing you can let your hair down(so to speak) and be with your friends. when straight women started coming in, it was because somebody was friends with them and invited them in where they know they wont get harassed by oogling desperate straight guys. but of course some of them brave inside, hoping to catch their prey by even to pretend theyre one of us! and then the owners see that and so, to bring in more money, decide that our cherished hangouts are going to be mixed. Yeah, im all for equality, but there should be certain places we should call our own. if gentlemen's clubs dont permit women in, why should we? i know that sounds sexist, but really, i dont think i shouldnt have to think twice if i happen to come on to some hot guy, then realize to our horrors hes straight and hes there to pick up on some chick that some other queen invited in.
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    Aug 09, 2008 7:43 AM GMT
    This has been going on for ages. I think as long as the gays keep having clubs and bars that are cool enuf to attract the straights, we're doing alright. And I think women (straight and not so) do enhance the atmosphere at some clubs.

    That said, there is a line that can be crossed, IMHO. When there's so many that they dominate (like too many bachlorette parties, say), or when they seem to be in "high school drink to you vomit" mode, then I'm outta there.

    Sadly, it seems the number of straight women in tight leather skirts and "fuck me" heels vomiting on the curbs outside gay bars is on the rise here in SF. Blecch.
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    Aug 09, 2008 7:59 AM GMT
    Sometimes all I want is to go to a club with lots of hot shirtless men, which luckily is always possible here in London. I've found I prefer a men only environment and find it odd to see women in the club. It changes the vibe. Specifically I don't like the boobies rubbing against me on the dance floor! I prefer a nice bare shaved muscled chest icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 09, 2008 8:05 AM GMT
    There were a lot of girls out tonight at SideTrack. they were all very nice, fun and polite. I've run into situations though in the past that have been less than pleasant. Sometime you'll get a load of sorority girls in and they get pissy because the little things they get at a straight bar, holding of doors, guys clearing a path for them to get through the crowd, are not always present at the gay club. Add alcohol and sometimes it gets less than pretty.
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    Aug 09, 2008 11:02 AM GMT
    They come to check out the hottest men they're never gonna get, hoping to watch them make out before heading back to their dumpy boyfriends/husbands.
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    Aug 09, 2008 11:12 AM GMT
    It bothered me a lot when I was new to the scene...mainly because I didnt want a straight women seeing me in a gay club than going back and telling everyone....but im over that now. Its part of the scene. I know girls that would rather go to the gay club than a straight one...

    It can be too much at times though....I was at a club while I was visiting California. This straight couple was just all over the place dancing and kissing. Im hanging with my friends and I feel a hand on my ass and than all on my back. I turn around and it was the same woman giving me a sexual look. I was kind of disgusted.

    Being there is fine, inappropriate touching isnt. I dont like strangers just touching me.

  • Aug 09, 2008 12:05 PM GMT
    I don't mind the occasional fruit fly or fag hag at the gay bar, they are after all, an integral part of our community.

    But I do have a problem with the regular straight girls and their boyfriends coming into our safe space and taking over. I go into a gay bar when I want to be with "my people." I shouldn't have to wonder if I'm going to offend some guy because I hit on him at a gay bar.

    Luckily, I still have the option of going to leather bars. The breeders won't dare set foot in there...
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    Aug 09, 2008 12:11 PM GMT
    UGH! That pisses me off when i see straight women in gay bars..... they are usually a mess(drunk!) and walking all over the place stepping on your shoes rubbing their "tits" on your back as they are squeezing through. UGH! I dont want their "Cooties".

    All honesty im not really for straight women in gay clubs/bars.