I'm better if I'm white.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:01 PM GMT
    Okay, before I begin, I should state, that this is not a pity party post for black men who want white men. My opinion of "attractiveness" applies to all ethnicity.

    That being said, I've been performing an experiment, for my own shits and giggles, for about a month or so.

    I changed my profile picture to a picture of my friend Corey & I. I then proceeded to send messages to specific guys of varies races and backgrounds. I found that the majority if not all the guys saw my messages, went further to check out my page, and then never responded. After, seeing I was not Corey.

    In normal instances with just a picture of myself alone, almost no one even checked my page, just no response, at all.

    Also, since the change in pictures, it has been a major overall rise in the visitation of my page. If I had to make an estimate, it would be as high as 60% more than my usual visits.

    This leads me to believe that there is a correlation between my latest profile picture and these results. Furthermore, people either one: think/hope that the profile is indeed Corey's or that we are indeed are a couple, so therefore a message from myself isn't as threatening, because it is assumed I'm dating someone, and just want to be friends. However, it does say on my page that I'm single and that we are indeed friends.

    Also, I don't know whether racial preferences is the focus conscientiously or unconsciously or rather just overall attractiveness is the key. I mean, I think Corey and I are on the same level in the looks department? But, then again, how can one judge himself fairly to someone else?

    Last, but not least. I could just have a shitty profile/personality? I've never had anyone who has met me ever feel that way about me, but it is a possibility.

    Alright, I've exuded every variable and possibility, but I truly think it is an interesting finding, Obviously this has no scientific bearing, as there is not a clear control group etc. But, it does give food for thought to the idea: Maybe to the gay or overall world, I'm better [more attractive] if I'm white. hmm icon_rolleyes.gif



  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:05 PM GMT
    "Obviously this has no scientific bearing."

    This.
  • AMoonHawk

    Posts: 11406

    Jul 25, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
    What exactly was in your email .... were you sending to verified profiles or just anyone .... I didn't get one, so I must assume you exluded me because I was older or maybe because of my race... hmmm ... maybe I need to do a little testing of my own icon_mad.gif

    .... ehhh ... naaaa ... I could care less
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidWhat exactly was in your email .... were you sending to verified profiles or just anyone .... I didn't get one, so I must assume you exluded me because I was older or maybe because of my race... hmmm ... maybe I need to do a little testing of my own icon_mad.gif


    We're probly too old, lol.

    Anyway, I just looked at the OP's profile and both he and his friend are really adorable, though the profile could use a little more interesting content to set him apart. So there's another data point.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:13 PM GMT
    Sidney12 said...people either one: think/hope that the profile is indeed Corey's or that we are indeed are a couple, so therefore a message from myself isn't as threatening,...Also, I don't know whether racial preferences is the focus conscientiously or unconsciously or rather just overall attractiveness is the key. ...Alright, I've exuded (examined) every variable and possibility,...,I'm better [more attractive] if I'm white. hmm


    Wow, just look at the picture of that handsome black man. And, oh look, he's with an average looking white man. Maybe there's a chance for me. Signed, Pale-faced shy guy.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:15 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidWhat exactly was in your email .... were you sending to verified profiles or just anyone .... I didn't get one, so I must assume you exluded me because I was older or maybe because of my race... hmmm ... maybe I need to do a little testing of my own icon_mad.gif


    It varied from person to person, but it was a lot more than "Hey" or "how are you", and yes, it was specifically guys who were closer to my age bracket, and guys that "I" found either intellectually, emotionally, or physically attractive, most times not all in one person. And no, I said at the beginning I am completely open to attractiveness to all races. Asian, Black, White, Middle Eastern..etc. They all are hot! icon_smile.gif
  • Import

    Posts: 7190

    Jul 25, 2012 6:16 PM GMT
    oh boo fucking hoo.....
    cry me a river.... wah wah waaaaaahh..

    get a life. Your experiment is some dumbass hodge-podge scheme u dreamed up while being incredibly bored one night.

    fuck you
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:20 PM GMT
    It is clear that there are a not insignificant number of guys here who don't find black guys attractive, and others who are completely intolerant of any real discussions about race, prejudice, cultural differences, etc.

    Flame war in 3,2,1....
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:22 PM GMT
    Photobucket
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:25 PM GMT
    Import saidoh boo fucking hoo.....
    cry me a river.... wah wah waaaaaahh..

    get a life. Your experiment is some dumbass hodge-podge scheme u dreamed up while being incredibly bored one night.

    fuck you


    Whoa. (why, are you so angry) it actually wasn't a scheme, it was more like a mistake. In all honesty I originally put the picture up just because I thought it looked nice. But, then started noticing the increasing attention I was receiving and then thought it would be an interesting thing to make note of.

    Please, don't perceive to "know" me or what I do, on my free time. I have a pretty good life, and I don't need to "cry [you] a river", I'm not sad or affected by what I said, it is just fucking interesting.

    --And frankly, fuck you, asshole.
  • Karl

    Posts: 5787

    Jul 25, 2012 6:33 PM GMT
    you said it right , but just a small part.
    why do you care/worry so much about ethnicity ?

    Attractiveness is important , but important for what ?
    for sex ? for hook up ?

    If you want the true relationship or more , just be proud of being who you are .
    You was born this way (omg I dont like Lady Gaga much lol ).
    I prefer personality than attractiveness.

    Im Asian , Im not white , Im short , Im not rich , so what ?
    At least I love all the things of my own , I dont let those silly thoughts bother me.
    So Im always happy and I barely have a sad.

    So why you feel bad about that , I just viewed your profile , you look handsome , you have a nice body and the height of my dream.

    What you want more ????
    Being sad about this , does it worth ?you cant change anything.
    Just enjoy the life with the real you and everybody loves you icon_smile.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
    Oh, I've been here a while. The only black guy I know of, who was man of the day was.....jrs1: John, but that was forever ago.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    TheBizMan and Corvin have both been MotD recently.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:42 PM GMT
    I'm not passing judgement or anything, but has it occurred to you that people are not attracted to you because they don't find you physically appealing, regardless of your skin color? I find a lot of black men attractive, and I find a lot of them unattractive as well. It's no different than it is with whites, Asians or hispanics. If Taye Diggs or Shemar Moore had profiles on here, I bet they'd be getting messages and MoTD all the time.

    It bothers me when people automatically assume race is to blame for all the problems in their life when it could realistically be a whole number of factors.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:42 PM GMT
    Karl saidyou said it right , but just a small part.
    why do you care/worry so much about ethnicity ?

    Attractiveness is important , but important for what ?
    for sex ? for hook up ?

    If you want the true relationship or more , just be proud of being who you are .
    You was born this way (omg I dont like Lady Gaga much lol ).
    I prefer personality than attractiveness.

    Im Asian , Im not white , Im short , Im not rich , so what ?
    At least I love all the things of my own , I dont let those silly thoughts bother me.
    So Im always happy and I barely have a sad.

    So why you feel bad about that , I just viewd your profile , you look handsome , you have a nice body and the height of my dream.

    What you want more ????
    Being sad about this , does it worth because you cant change anything.
    Just enjoy the life with the real you and everybody loves you icon_smile.gif


    Karl you're so sweet! And you're very handsome as well. I feel like everyone is getting the wrong impression of how I feel about whatever I found.

    1. I'm not sad, hurt, or feel any animosity towards anyone.
    2. I don't think I'm ugly, because I'm black
    3. I'm not looking for validation.
    4. I have not concluded ANYTHING, these are merely thoughts on what I noticed.
    5. There are great people on RJ and I can attest to them. But, there is a present ideal of what men find attractive in other men, and for some guys, race happens to be a factor. It is what it is?
    6. I love everyone. *Throws glitter over everyone!* Enjoy the herpes of Arts and crafts bitches! lol icon_twisted.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:45 PM GMT
    BareMusculine said
    7Famark saidTheBizMan and Corvin have both been MotD recently.


    But not http://www.realjock.com/E_84?


    Case in point....IMO
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
    BornJuly4th said
    BareMusculine said
    7Famark saidTheBizMan and Corvin have both been MotD recently.


    But not http://www.realjock.com/E_84?


    Case in point....IMO


    I don't get the point?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
    BornJuly4th saidI'm not passing judgement or anything, but has it occurred to you that people are not attracted to you because they don't find you physically appealing, regardless of your skin color? I find a lot of black men attractive, and I find a lot of them unattractive as well. It's no different than it is with whites, Asians or hispanics.

    It bothers me when people automatically assume race is to blame for all the problems in their life when it could realistically be a whole number of factors.


    I'm not even going to....look, just read the post, again, because clearly you skimmed through it. I talk specifically about overall attractiveness.

    "Also, I don't know whether racial preferences is the focus conscientiously or unconsciously or rather just overall attractiveness is the key. I mean, I think Corey and I are on the same level in the looks department? But, then again, how can one judge himself fairly to someone else?"
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:47 PM GMT
    7Famark said
    BornJuly4th said
    BareMusculine said
    7Famark saidTheBizMan and Corvin have both been MotD recently.


    But not http://www.realjock.com/E_84?


    Case in point....IMO


    I don't get the point?


    I don't get the point either? icon_neutral.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:48 PM GMT
    7Famark said
    BornJuly4th said
    BareMusculine said
    7Famark saidTheBizMan and Corvin have both been MotD recently.


    But not http://www.realjock.com/E_84?


    Case in point....IMO


    I don't get the point?


    See my earlier post, Mark. In my opinion, that guy is not attractive. It has nothing to do with his skin color.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:49 PM GMT
    BornJuly4th said
    7Famark said
    BornJuly4th said
    BareMusculine said
    7Famark saidTheBizMan and Corvin have both been MotD recently.


    But not http://www.realjock.com/E_84?


    Case in point....IMO


    I don't get the point?


    See my earlier post, Mark. In my opinion, that guy is not attractive. It has nothing to do with his skin color.
    ''

    I agree, he looks mean and angry - not cute at all.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:49 PM GMT
    BareMusculine said
    BornJuly4th said
    BareMusculine said
    7Famark saidTheBizMan and Corvin have both been MotD recently.


    But not http://www.realjock.com/E_84?


    Case in point....IMO


    So are you saying every vote for previous MOTD was based on face + body? A faceless guy won one time.


    And old, out of shape white guys have won too. Sometimes I wonder why people get voted MOTD at all. Has 7Famark ever won? He's one of the more attractive guys on this site and he's got a great body.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
    Your conclusion isn't really valid for a lot of reasons. It might be more compelling if you had switched out all of your photos for your white friend's, but left everything else in your profile the same, except your race designation. That would have given you a better idea of how much race was a factor. People will react differently to couples or guys they think are a couple. And don't assume that people read all the details of your profile. They may not have bothered to check if you were single. They might have just assumed you weren't based on your pic.

    TheBizMan, JackKash, and Gmack are three black or mixed race guys who get A LOT of compliments on this site, and deservedly so. They are all extremely good looking. Does that mean that there aren't guys on RJ who have a problem with race? Of course not, but making generalizations based on a relatively small sample of questionable data is only good for starting flame wars.

    I also noticed that you've been here since 2009, but your post count is very low. The three hotties I mentioned above are all much more active in the forums. That's one factor in how much they get noticed. They don't rely on just pictures and a profile. Being active in the forums also gives us a glimpse into their personalities.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
    Yeah, I do think there are unattractive black guys, white guys, Asian guys, in my opinion of "good-looking" men. That guy does look a little bit scary, and I don't necessarily go for that amount of muscle. BUT, that does not, discount what I am saying, in my post.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 25, 2012 6:55 PM GMT
    BareMusculine said
    7Famark saidTheBizMan and Corvin have both been MotD recently.


    But not http://www.realjock.com/E_84?


    I think he's won before, just not recently.