An Alternative Take on Boston vs. Chick-Fil-A...

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    Jul 26, 2012 2:51 AM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-peron/shut-down-chickfila-prope_b_1703781.html

    The author of this article writes that while he agrees with the boycott, is boycotting the place himself, and thinks Chick-Fil-A's donations are bigoted, the mayor of Boston is as equally wrong by making a politically-motivated denial for Chick-Fil-A to set up shop there.

    I like that stance, honestly. Let CFA build a restaurant there and allow for the invisible hand to work its magic.

    Considering its anti-gay stances, not to mention the numerous gaffes the Chick-fil-A people have made this past week, the populace of a liberal city like Boston wouldn't be too kind to the place.
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    Jul 26, 2012 5:16 AM GMT
    Believe me, if a chick-fil-a is built. People WILL eat there. Not necessarily gay people, but people in general will tear that shit up.
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    Jul 26, 2012 12:44 PM GMT
    I believe it was Adam Smith who coined the term "invisible hand."
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    Jul 26, 2012 12:48 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidBelieve me, if a chick-fil-a is built. People WILL eat there. Not necessarily gay people, but people in general will tear that shit up.


    Agreed. This will all blow over soon and be out of peoples mind. Better Chick-fil-a not end up with more profitable locations.


    GuyI believe it was Adam Smith who coined the term "invisible hand."


    Adam Smith is pretty much a saint for Libertarians.
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    Jul 26, 2012 1:23 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidBelieve me, if a chick-fil-a is built. People WILL eat there. Not necessarily gay people, but people in general will tear that shit up.


    absolutely... the "invisible hand" is invisible because it´s not there. Like Jesus.
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    Jul 26, 2012 1:24 PM GMT
    August 1st is National Eat at Chick Fil A to oppose Gay Marriage. Thanks Mike Huckabee. Not only are you discriminating against Americans your encouraging other Americans who are already fat to get fatter.

    Michelle Obama wouldn't be happy.
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    Jul 26, 2012 1:27 PM GMT
    msuNtx saidAugust 1st is National Eat at Chick Fil A to oppose Gay Marriage. Thanks Mike Huckabee. Not only are you discriminating against Americans your encouraging other Americans who are already fat to get fatter.

    Michelle Obama wouldn't be happy.


    It´s all about money and hatred. America - welcome to the GOP.
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    Jul 26, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidBelieve me, if a chick-fil-a is built. People WILL eat there. Not necessarily gay people, but people in general will tear that shit up.


    LOL! I'm with both of you (you and the OP). It might as well be Crack-fil-A for many people.

    I know it pained me to wean myself off of it (going on 9 months and counting). I realized that by simply seeing the name or the logo the flavors from their food products literally reestablish themselves in my taste buds... and eventually I realized just the psychological reanimation of the flavors was enough for me, without having to chow down on the actual stuff. I have more fun now trying to recreate their fast food at home (no dice on the cole slaw so far).

    Some individual shops can sustain themselves on fringe customers, but mass-producing chain stores like CFA cannot. The minute they open up and get that "Pho-bi-A" reputation label from the jump, they'll get a boost of "guilty pleasure" patrons, made up of loyalists and other people wondering what the fuss is all about. But that will die down as the loyalists satisfy their fix and move on, while the others realize it's not worth the trouble.

    Where CFA gets you is in the catering department. As good as McDonald's is to millions, you never walk into an office lunchtime meeting expecting (or wanting) to see platters of Big Mac bites or Chicken McNuggets. They absolutely kill competition in this area of business in the South -- people literally walk into working lunches seeing pizzas and frown. But, if LGBT people and orgs keep the local business community's feet to the proverbial fire in Boston and Chicago, CFA will hardly make a dent in this sector of their business model.

    While I'm not wild about the specific location CFA had in mind for its first Boston store (across the street from the City Hall Plaza where some of the first same sex marriages were held), they already do have a couple outlets in the 'burbs (where same sex marriage is equally equal), so the horse is already out of the barn (chicken already out of the pen?).

    I do suspect, though, the "OMFG they're here!" would not be sustainable if they opened up shop somewhere in the city limits. They would literally have to rely on Xtianist church groups to visit and cater round-the-clock, and they really wouldn't need to pay city taxes on a storefront for that, they could just ship it all out to them from a warehouse somewhere else. Rather than a "You're Not Welcome Here" sign from the City, I'd much more enjoy waiting a few months for the "Going Out of Business" sign.
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    Jul 26, 2012 1:48 PM GMT
    First of all, nothing Menino said was out of line. He made no legal threats, because of course he couldn't! However, many large businesses expect-- and receive-- concessions from the local government when they set up shop in a new city, in return for the job creation they bring. These favors come in the form of tax breaks, easements, infrastructure assistance, etc. Menino is perfectly in his rights to suggest that he personally, and most likely the rest of the city council, will not support giving these concessions to Chick-Fil-A.

    Also, I don't know for certain that Bostonians as a group will love Chick-Fil-A. Regional tastes do vary and I, as a former Bostonian, have always been somewhat mystified by the South's love affair with Chick-Fil-A. I find it to be just okay, and I've ALWAYS been turned off by the overt displays of religion there (even religious New Englanders traditionally tend to avoid public displays of religion, unlike the flamboyant South).

    Anyway, the Boston area is a very large region, most of which is not under the purview of Menino, and if they want to set up shop in a suburban strip, I doubt that any government will actually stop them. However, in a state where gay marriage is legal and sees 80+% approval, a company that overtly embraces the Southern Conservative religious traditions is going to be looked at askance.
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    Jul 27, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    Props to Mayor Menino for, if you want to call it that (I don't), dialing back on threats to keep CFA from opening in downtown Beantown. As noted above, he didn't cross legal lines, but by warning "it will be very difficult" to obtain a restaurant license there, the inference was certainly made. Now, though, if CFA wants to open up shop, feel free! Bostonians will enjoy sitting back to watch them fall flat on their face.