Chick Fil A and gays. Are we about to miss an opportunity?

  • silverfox

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    Jul 26, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
    So these haters are going to have a special "day" on August 1rst to celebrate life and values....the way that THEY would like them to be defined.

    And here we are talking about boycotting Chick Fil A.

    Really?

    Is that the answer?

    Word up. If every gay American boycotted this chain I don't think it would make a dent in their business....quite the opposite. I think it would solidify as a "hater's hangout" and thrive.

    But what if every gay American and gay friendly person showed up to these establishments on August 1rst to celebrate......what we are. Imagine gay boyfriends arm and arm? Or gay couples with children?

    What are they going to do?

    I think most think that staying away is the answer but I think just the opposite. We don't have to go there every day....but on August 1rst? Are we going to turn our backs and let them hate us? Or do we shove their waffle fries right back in their face and make them choke on them?

    During the civil rights movement in the south did blacks NOT ride the buses where they were forced to sit in the back? Did they run from water fountains designated for "whites" only?

    IMHO I think we will miss an opportunity here.

    Your thoughts?
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    Jul 26, 2012 1:49 PM GMT
    I think we should flood the chicks fer dicks stores and suck face with each other.. dont buy anything just make their 'eating experience' dis-pleasurable!
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    Jul 26, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidI think we should flood the chicks fer dicks stores and suck face with each other.. dont buy anything just make their 'eating experience' dis-pleasurable!


    That is kind of what I am thinking. Not even picket outside. Go INSIDE. Make ourselves right at home! Buy one lemonade and share with 12 people! icon_biggrin.gif
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 26, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
    silverfox said
    TropicalMark saidI think we should flood the chicks fer dicks stores and suck face with each other.. dont buy anything just make their 'eating experience' dis-pleasurable!


    That is kind of what I am thinking. Not even picket outside. Go INSIDE. Make ourselves right at home! Buy one lemonade and share with 12 people! icon_biggrin.gif



    Yes, because making an ass and a nuisance of yourself in public always changes minds to your way of thinking. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 26, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
    I wouldn't consider eating there or even using their bathroom. I don't understand why any gay person would yet I have people on fb who like them, that I'm about to delete.
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:01 PM GMT

    I think the idea has merit, but I also think that it should be classy rather than overtly disruptive. Makes for negative press about gays, which chickF would love. icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    pf008 saidI wouldn't consider eating there or even using their bathroom. I don't understand why any gay person would yet I have people on fb who like them, that I'm about to delete.



    Aahhhh, so not only are gays expected to boycott Chick-Fil-A, if they don't they could be defriended by fellow gays on Facebook --- Ohhh the horrors! Have some of you lost your flippin' minds? It's a chicken sandwich for God's sake!
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:08 PM GMT
    Unfortunately we treat it like it's THE Chicken Sandwich, when it's not.

    I do like the idea of testing the "We welcome EVERYBODY!" myth in their stores, but I wouldn't buy much more than a salt packet from them to do it.
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:09 PM GMT
    I think the whole notion of doing anything is ridiculous. Why is everybody surprised by their stance on 'traditional' marriage? It was no secret that Chic-Fil-A was a 'Christian' company. They even closed on Sunday's for Heaven sakes. Somebody saw an opportunity to cause a stir and asked if they (the company, ceo) supports gay marriage. Well hell no they don't. And now they are being condemned and scolded by all of you? Gimme a freakin' break. It's no worse than Perez Hilton asking Miss California about her stance. It's nobody's damn business. Questions like that shouldn't be allowed because it is a trigger for so many people.

    They are a private company---family owned. Wake up, people---it is their RIGHT to feel that way. I didn't say it was right. I didn't say that it was appropriate. But I'm not going to stop eating there because they exercised their right to run a business that THEY built (contrary to the Messiah of the United States) the way they want. If I were to boycott every company that did something I did not approve of, I'd have nowhere to shop. No go order a chicken sandwich. icon_smile.gif
  • kuroshiro

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    Jul 26, 2012 2:10 PM GMT
    In all honesty, who gives a rats ass whether they hate on gays or not? In a perfect world all would be fine and dandy, but guess what: this world is far from perfect. Boycotting an organization over something like this is pointless and won't accomplish anything in the long run. If they're anti-gay let them be anti-gay. They have the right to believe in or preach whatever they want (so long as it isn't slander or defamatory). Suck it up and move on, cupcakes.
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:11 PM GMT
    dayumm saidUnfortunately we treat it like it's THE Chicken Sandwich, when it's not.

    I do like the idea of testing the "We welcome EVERYBODY!" myth in their stores, but I wouldn't buy much more than a salt packet from them to do it.


    Myth? My gay friends and I went to Chic-Fil-A yesterday and ate. Partly because non of us give a shit about their stance. We like the food. We were treated with dignity and respect just like everybody else. This notion that they're gonna kick you out and scold you is delusional.
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:11 PM GMT
    kuroshiro saidIn all honesty, who gives a rats ass whether they hate on gays or not? In a perfect world all would be fine and dandy, but guess what: this world is far from perfect. Boycotting an organization over something like this is pointless and won't accomplish anything in the long run. If they're anti-gay let them be anti-gay. They have the right to believe in or preach whatever they want (so long as it isn't slander or defamatory). Suck it up and move on, cupcakes.


    BINGO
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:12 PM GMT
    For those of us woefully ignorant types who live outside of the US... what the fuck is Chick Fil A??

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    Jul 26, 2012 2:13 PM GMT
    speedobuddy saidFor those of us woefully ignorant types who live outside of the US... what the fuck is Chick Fil A??



    Some nasty chicken that lies to consumers about inventing the original chicken sandwich.
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:24 PM GMT
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    pf008 saidI wouldn't consider eating there or even using their bathroom. I don't understand why any gay person would yet I have people on fb who like them, that I'm about to delete.



    Aahhhh, so not only are gays expected to boycott Chick-Fil-A, if they don't they could be defriended by fellow gays on Facebook --- Ohhh the horrors! Have some of you lost your flippin' minds? It's a chicken sandwich for God's sake!

    Meh, its no different than the AFA's boycott of Home Depot, IMO...
  • silverfox

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    Jul 26, 2012 2:27 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    silverfox said
    TropicalMark saidI think we should flood the chicks fer dicks stores and suck face with each other.. dont buy anything just make their 'eating experience' dis-pleasurable!


    That is kind of what I am thinking. Not even picket outside. Go INSIDE. Make ourselves right at home! Buy one lemonade and share with 12 people! icon_biggrin.gif



    Yes, because making an ass and a nuisance of yourself in public always changes minds to your way of thinking. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Note from the OP:
    Actually, I was not talking about making an "ass and a nuisance" of myself. However, if I decided to go to this restaurant holding hands with someone I cared about and it made someone uncomfortable so be it. I am not really concerned about it.

    My bigger point is.....gays boycotting this chain to prove a point is misguided IF the goal is to ....make a point....or to impact their corporate bottom line.

    It is not going to close down Chick Fil A. They will survive and thrive in spite of a boycott supported by gays.


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    Jul 26, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
    hou2jax saidI think the whole notion of doing anything is ridiculous. Why is everybody surprised by their stance on 'traditional' marriage? It was no secret that Chic-Fil-A was a 'Christian' company. They even closed on Sunday's for Heaven sakes. Somebody saw an opportunity to cause a stir and asked if they (the company, ceo) supports gay marriage. Well hell no they don't. And now they are being condemned and scolded by all of you? Gimme a freakin' break. It's no worse than Perez Hilton asking Miss California about her stance. It's nobody's damn business. Questions like that shouldn't be allowed because it is a trigger for so many people.

    They are a private company---family owned. Wake up, people---it is their RIGHT to feel that way. I didn't say it was right. I didn't say that it was appropriate. But I'm not going to stop eating there because they exercised their right to run a business that THEY built (contrary to the Messiah of the United States) the way they want. If I were to boycott every company that did something I did not approve of, I'd have nowhere to shop. No go order a chicken sandwich. icon_smile.gif


    You couldn't be more misinformed if you pressed a newspaper to your forehead and tried to absorb the contents via osmosis.

    Somebody didn't just ask Chick-fil-a management what they think of gay marriage like Pereze Hilton interviewing a ditzy blonde in a beauty pageant... although the recent interview certainly skyrocketed the negative PR into the mainstream. They don't just "feel that way."

    Chick-fil-a has been directly funding organizations like the Focus on the Family and Family Research Council that initiate and support anti-gay legislation like Proposition 8. Every time you buy something at Chick-fil-a, you are putting money into the hands of organizations fighting against your rights.

    This is not new. This has been going on for years and has been tracked by gay activists... the mainstream press is only just now catching up because of the COO's recent comments.

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    Jul 26, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
    silverfox said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    silverfox said
    TropicalMark saidI think we should flood the chicks fer dicks stores and suck face with each other.. dont buy anything just make their 'eating experience' dis-pleasurable!


    That is kind of what I am thinking. Not even picket outside. Go INSIDE. Make ourselves right at home! Buy one lemonade and share with 12 people! icon_biggrin.gif



    Yes, because making an ass and a nuisance of yourself in public always changes minds to your way of thinking. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Note from the OP:
    Actually, I was not talking about making an "ass and a nuisance" of myself. However, if I decided to go to this restaurant holding hands with someone I cared about and it made someone uncomfortable so be it. I am not really concerned about it.

    My bigger point is.....gays boycotting this chain to prove a point is misguided IF the goal is to ....make a point....or to impact their corporate bottom line.

    It is not going to close down Chick Fil A. They will survive and thrive in spite of a boycott supported by gays.




    And that's assuming all of us would comply with a boycott---which I will not.
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:32 PM GMT
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    hou2jax saidI think the whole notion of doing anything is ridiculous. Why is everybody surprised by their stance on 'traditional' marriage? It was no secret that Chic-Fil-A was a 'Christian' company. They even closed on Sunday's for Heaven sakes. Somebody saw an opportunity to cause a stir and asked if they (the company, ceo) supports gay marriage. Well hell no they don't. And now they are being condemned and scolded by all of you? Gimme a freakin' break. It's no worse than Perez Hilton asking Miss California about her stance. It's nobody's damn business. Questions like that shouldn't be allowed because it is a trigger for so many people.

    They are a private company---family owned. Wake up, people---it is their RIGHT to feel that way. I didn't say it was right. I didn't say that it was appropriate. But I'm not going to stop eating there because they exercised their right to run a business that THEY built (contrary to the Messiah of the United States) the way they want. If I were to boycott every company that did something I did not approve of, I'd have nowhere to shop. No go order a chicken sandwich. icon_smile.gif


    You couldn't be more misinformed if you pressed a newspaper to your forehead and tried to absorb the contents via osmosis.

    Somebody didn't just ask Chick-fil-a management what they think of gay marriage like Pereze Hilton interviewing a ditzy blonde in a beauty pageant... although the recent interview certainly skyrocketed the negative PR into the mainstream. They don't just "feel that way."

    Chick-fil-a has been directly funding organizations like the Focus on the Family and Family Research Council that initiate and support anti-gay legislation like Proposition 8. Every time you buy something at Chick-fil-a, you are putting money into the hands of organizations fighting against your rights.

    This is not new. This has been going on for years and has been tracked by gay activists... the mainstream press is only just now catching up because of the COO's recent comments.



    Who gives a rats ass...
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:33 PM GMT
    I know I forced myself to think, "yeah, they're all Xian and stuff, but they're the good kind, like the Good Witch! Besides, their food is friggin' delicious!" for years. I could probably find an irresistibly good BBQ sandwich at a Klan rally, but it doesn't mean I should pay to eat it.

    I know it's not fair to everybody, but I assume many (okay, I'll admit it, most) corporate enterprises have bigots running things at the top. I don't expect to find much care for LGBT and other minority causes beyond the Marketing and PR departments. But my antennae goes up only when I see their direct actions working against the pittance in hard-earned money that I contribute.

    If anything companies like CFA get boycotted for unilateral philanthropic decisionmaking and ham-handed HR policies influenced by blinding bigotry and bolstered by piss-poor PR. You don't even have to be LGBT to be behind that.
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
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    hou2jax saidI think the whole notion of doing anything is ridiculous. Why is everybody surprised by their stance on 'traditional' marriage? It was no secret that Chic-Fil-A was a 'Christian' company. They even closed on Sunday's for Heaven sakes. Somebody saw an opportunity to cause a stir and asked if they (the company, ceo) supports gay marriage. Well hell no they don't. And now they are being condemned and scolded by all of you? Gimme a freakin' break. It's no worse than Perez Hilton asking Miss California about her stance. It's nobody's damn business. Questions like that shouldn't be allowed because it is a trigger for so many people.

    They are a private company---family owned. Wake up, people---it is their RIGHT to feel that way. I didn't say it was right. I didn't say that it was appropriate. But I'm not going to stop eating there because they exercised their right to run a business that THEY built (contrary to the Messiah of the United States) the way they want. If I were to boycott every company that did something I did not approve of, I'd have nowhere to shop. No go order a chicken sandwich. icon_smile.gif


    You couldn't be more misinformed if you pressed a newspaper to your forehead and tried to absorb the contents via osmosis.

    Somebody didn't just ask Chick-fil-a management what they think of gay marriage like Pereze Hilton interviewing a ditzy blonde in a beauty pageant... although the recent interview certainly skyrocketed the negative PR into the mainstream. They don't just "feel that way."

    Chick-fil-a has been directly funding organizations like the Focus on the Family and Family Research Council that initiate and support anti-gay legislation like Proposition 8. Every time you buy something at Chick-fil-a, you are putting money into the hands of organizations fighting against your rights.

    This is not new. This has been going on for years and has been tracked by gay activists... the mainstream press is only just now catching up because of the COO's recent comments.



    Who gives a rats ass...


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    Jul 26, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
    I have self-worth. I'm very proud of the things that I've accomplished in my life. Being gay isn't something I'm proud of or ashamed of so I don't make a big deal out of it. It's big queens like you who feel it's their duty to go around have everybody feel the way you do. Typical liberal.
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:41 PM GMT
    hou2jax saidI have self-worth. I'm very proud of the things that I've accomplished in my life. Being gay isn't something I'm proud of or ashamed of so I don't make a big deal out of it. It's big queens like you who feel it's their duty to go around have everybody feel the way you do. Typical liberal.


    This has nothing to do with being gay. This has everything to do with being treated equal. You are discriminated against in so many ways that you don't even realize it. Hope you don't get caught having sex with a man, sodomy is technically illegal in Texas.
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    Jul 26, 2012 2:43 PM GMT
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    hou2jax saidI have self-worth. I'm very proud of the things that I've accomplished in my life. Being gay isn't something I'm proud of or ashamed of so I don't make a big deal out of it. It's big queens like you who feel it's their duty to go around have everybody feel the way you do. Typical liberal.


    This has nothing to do with being gay. This has everything to do with being treated equal. You are discriminated against in so many ways that you don't even realize it. Hope you don't get caught having sex with a man, sodomy is technically illegal in Texas.


    This doesn't have anything to do with Chick-Fil-A treating you equal either? They didn't discriminate your customer service. They didn't say you couldn't eat at their restaurant. They wouldn't force you out if you and your boyfriend walked in holding hands. They simply stated they believe in traditional marriage. Nothing more, nothing less. In this country, they are entitled to their opinion and how their private company is run. Btw, I don't live in Texas anymore. icon_smile.gif
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    msuNtx said
    hou2jax saidI have self-worth. I'm very proud of the things that I've accomplished in my life. Being gay isn't something I'm proud of or ashamed of so I don't make a big deal out of it. It's big queens like you who feel it's their duty to go around have everybody feel the way you do. Typical liberal.


    This has nothing to do with being gay. This has everything to do with being treated equal. You are discriminated against in so many ways that you don't even realize it. Hope you don't get caught having sex with a man, sodomy is technically illegal in Texas.


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