yay ! Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage in my country ...

  • Karl

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    Jul 29, 2012 9:07 PM GMT
    Our government has asked so many polls about legalizing same sex marriage and as far as I know , the result is always supportive .
    We're going to be the first Asian country to legalize same sex marriage.

    And I just read this article , seems Im gonna be possible to marry a guy here , yay <3
    lol , just want to share this news which is very happy to me icon_razz.gif

    Vietnam Considers Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage
    http://www.npr.org/2012/07/29/157561604/vietnam-considers-legalizing-same-sex-marriage
  • easterndude69

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    Jul 29, 2012 9:19 PM GMT
    Karl saidOur government has asked so many polls about legalizing same sex marriage and as far as I know , the result is always supportive .

    And I just read this article , seems Im gonna be possible to marry a guy here , yay <3
    lol , just want to share this news which is very happy to me icon_razz.gif

    Vietnam Considers Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage
    http://www.npr.org/2012/07/29/157561604/vietnam-considers-legalizing-same-sex-marriage


    That's good. America should take notes. If only we could do the same.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 29, 2012 9:22 PM GMT
    I should move to Vietnam
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    Jul 29, 2012 9:22 PM GMT
    At the rate things are going worldwide, Uganda will legalize gay marriage before the US.
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    Jul 29, 2012 9:34 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidAt the rate things are going worldwide, Uganda will legalize gay marriage before the US.


    maybe north Korea and Iran will before US with that rate it's going
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    Jul 29, 2012 9:54 PM GMT
    congrats. uk has just done the same, scotland is the first to act i believe icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 29, 2012 10:25 PM GMT
    Imboth impressed and surprised as I didn't think 'gay' was even recognised in Vietnam and gay venues are all largely hidden unles your 'in the know'.
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    Jul 29, 2012 10:25 PM GMT
    Hopefully this is not just a tease and that you'll get your rights. I'd certainly be tempted to retire there if so. I've considered Thailand one day as it is so gay friendly but it would be nice to have options. Since I understand that the cost of living is even less in Vietnam, I wouldn't be surprised if recognizing human rights for gay people there might lead to some emigration of gay expats from Thailand and Malaysia and the Philippines et al which could be of mutual benefit.
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    Jul 30, 2012 3:48 AM GMT
    I read that. I thought it was interesting. I do wonder though if it will indeed be implemented. Hopefully.

    Nepal would have been the first Asian country to recognize same sex marriage, but the government has yet to implement a 2008 supreme court decision requiring equal rights for gay people.
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    Jul 30, 2012 3:50 AM GMT
    Well... if I ever get married, adopt kids with my man, and go on a trip overseas; I'll be sure to make sure Vietnam is on the top of the list!
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    Jul 30, 2012 3:54 AM GMT
    Americans: We still have Perry v. Brown most likely coming to the court next year.

    And if the court votes like it has voted on for gay rights in the past (I'm looking at you, Justice Kennedy) theres a good shot it will be legalized. icon_wink.gif
  • metta

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    Jul 30, 2012 3:56 AM GMT
    Good news! icon_smile.gif
  • Pyre85

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    Jul 30, 2012 3:57 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidAt the rate things are going worldwide, Uganda will legalize gay marriage before the US.

    Holy crap it's just sad to watch a country that professes Liberty and justice for all, with supposed freedom in the pursuit of happiness fall further and further behind nations who don't live out of the hypocrites handbook.
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    Jul 30, 2012 5:04 AM GMT
    daviddoublebay said
    IceBucket saidAmericans: We still have Perry v. Brown most likely coming to the court next year.

    And if the court votes like it has voted on for gay rights in the past (I'm looking at you, Justice Kennedy) theres a good shot it will be legalized. icon_wink.gif


    So what?! Everyone will celebrate, right? How long has it taken? How much hate speech and acts have we had to endure to finally get what was due, just and right?

    Many will say, "It's a process". Well, no. Actually it shouldn't have been. The U.S. has taken stances and intervened in the policies of other governments over human rights and even armed rebels and entered wars because of them.

    But for gay rights? Oh... well, THAT's a "process".

    I will NEVER forgive this country for making me feel hated and second-class.

    Am I supposed to finally be "proud" of our country whenever our rights are finally confirmed in the courts? Or that popular perception has finally made it a viable goal for politicians to pursue? Oh... WOW... yes, I will happily and easily forgive being fucked and openly hated for so long.... even by the politicians who are supposed to protect the rights of people instead of throwing them under the bus and choosing their religious beliefs... or political polls... instead. (Not gonna' happen)

    Get the fuck out of this country while you still can. We're fucked financially and that will come to a head. Our quality of life index, ranked by the U.N. Development Index is an embarrassment. We are not the # 1 country in the world. And you think it's bad now?? Just wait and see how bad it will get. It scares the shit outta' me.

    Oh... and we start wars in other countries that kill LOTS of people, all while saying that we're the world's protector. Everyone hates American's because of these things. I AM EMBARRASSED to be an American.

    So... the courts or the government can finally do what's right about gay marriage, but I can't forgive that it's taken them so long and don't want to be a part of a country that violates people's human rights all over the world in the name of "protector".

    I've seen, first-hand, the fall of other countries and them turning into an abyss of poverty, crime, brutality and police-state tactics. We are heading that way quickly.

    So, to me.... I don't see the eventual legalization of gay marriage as something to be proud about.

    I am ashamed that it will have taken so long. And... I don't forgive anyone who thinks it's okay to discriminate against me or generally fuck me over for decades at a time.

    If you're okay with that... FINE. Good luck to 'ya here in the land of the "free".


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    That is completely beside my point. Of course it's not okay. It was never okay. I was referring more to the point that we'd have same-sex marriage before North Korea or Iran. I'm just sorry my post made you so angry. icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 30, 2012 5:10 AM GMT
    That is awesome news, it doesn't surprised me at all because imho, the Vietnamese in general seem to be least homophobic comparing to other Asian nations!! Now if we can overturn prop 8 in California and make it legal here. icon_cool.gif


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    Jul 30, 2012 5:15 AM GMT
    how is Vietnam more progressive than the states?
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    Jul 30, 2012 5:21 AM GMT
    xsocalguy8x saidThat is awesome news, it doesn't surprised me at all because imho, the Vietnamese in general seem to be least homophobic comparing to other Asian nations!! Now if we can overturn prop 8 in California and make it legal here. icon_cool.gif




    I beg to differ lol.. Went shopping with my mother, raised in Vietnam, I picked out a peachy color and said that was too feminine for me and asked if I was gay

    Another example is I was watching tv about two guys getting married and my father came up and said "turn this nasty shit off"

    My parents are super anti gay
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    Jul 30, 2012 5:52 AM GMT
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    xsocalguy8x saidThat is awesome news, it doesn't surprised me at all because imho, the Vietnamese in general seem to be least homophobic comparing to other Asian nations!! Now if we can overturn prop 8 in California and make it legal here. icon_cool.gif




    I beg to differ lol.. Went shopping with my mother, raised in Vietnam, I picked out a peachy color and said that was too feminine for me and asked if I was gay

    Another example is I was watching tv about two guys getting married and my father came up and said "turn this nasty shit off"

    My parents are super anti gay


    Your mother has apparently never heard of the thai lady boys icon_biggrin.gif
  • O5vx

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    Jul 30, 2012 5:59 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidAt the rate things are going worldwide, Uganda will legalize gay marriage before the US.
    icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

    At least then they can say in your face America, lol
  • Karl

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    Jul 30, 2012 6:02 AM GMT
    ya I agree , almost Vietnamese is a little homophobic , especially the old generations and those who doesnt use the internet much.
    They often think that a gay is feminine , dressing like a girl , blah blah blah.

    But for the young generation , they're very supportive and they understand , support the LGBT community.
    I hope the government legalize it soon.
  • easterndude69

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    Jul 30, 2012 7:17 PM GMT
    daviddoublebay said
    IceBucket saidAmericans: We still have Perry v. Brown most likely coming to the court next year.

    And if the court votes like it has voted on for gay rights in the past (I'm looking at you, Justice Kennedy) theres a good shot it will be legalized. icon_wink.gif


    So what?! Everyone will celebrate, right? How long has it taken? How much hate speech and acts have we had to endure to finally get what was due, just and right?

    Many will say, "It's a process". Well, no. Actually it shouldn't have been. The U.S. has taken stances and intervened in the policies of other governments over human rights and even armed rebels and entered wars because of them.

    But for gay rights? Oh... well, THAT's a "process".

    I will NEVER forgive this country for making me feel hated and second-class.

    Am I supposed to finally be "proud" of our country whenever our rights are finally confirmed in the courts? Or that popular perception has finally made it a viable goal for politicians to pursue? Oh... WOW... yes, I will happily and easily forgive being fucked and openly hated for so long.... even by the politicians who are supposed to protect the rights of people instead of throwing them under the bus and choosing their religious beliefs... or political polls... instead. (Not gonna' happen)

    Get the fuck out of this country while you still can. We're fucked financially and that will come to a head. Our quality of life index, ranked by the U.N. Development Index is an embarrassment. We are not the # 1 country in the world. And you think it's bad now?? Just wait and see how bad it will get. It scares the shit outta' me.

    Oh... and we start wars in other countries that kill LOTS of people, all while saying that we're the world's protector. Everyone hates American's because of these things. I AM EMBARRASSED to be an American.

    So... the courts or the government can finally do what's right about gay marriage, but I can't forgive that it's taken them so long and don't want to be a part of a country that violates people's human rights all over the world in the name of "protector".

    I've seen, first-hand, the fall of other countries and them turning into an abyss of poverty, crime, brutality and police-state tactics. We are heading that way quickly.

    So, to me.... I don't see the eventual legalization of gay marriage as something to be proud about.

    I am ashamed that it will have taken so long. And... I don't forgive anyone who thinks it's okay to discriminate against me or generally fuck me over for decades at a time.

    If you're okay with that... FINE. Good luck to 'ya here in the land of the "free".



    Agreed. There's is so much screwed up with our country that it takes ages to approve of equality and look past the bible book for judgement. Our country is not in good condition economically, and NOTHING is being done to return it back to its thriving state either. It's just all more BS and lies by politicians who take forever to pass policies because what they really care about is more money and power. Our government system is so flawed too. We get **** over by them so much in taxes and compromising our rights. I'm starting to question if we really are the best country out there. Other countries are surpassing us. It's really quite sad.
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    Jul 30, 2012 9:11 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidAt the rate things are going worldwide, Uganda will legalize gay marriage before the US.
    Aint that the fucking truth!
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    Jul 30, 2012 10:22 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    paulflexes saidAt the rate things are going worldwide, Uganda will legalize gay marriage before the US.
    Aint that the fucking truth!


    Alas, we are in many ways a truly backward nation. :-(
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 30, 2012 10:34 PM GMT
    I thought that Taiwan, South Korea, and Thailand already had legalized gay marriage or do they just have civil unions. Oh well, this is a very pleasant surprise, a country like Vietnam seriously considering legalizing gay marriage.