What is gay culture?

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    Jul 30, 2012 2:10 PM GMT
    There's a new thread on Rj by a guy just embracing his gay hood and breaking up with his wife. One of the posters on that thread comments that gay bars... Are not gay culture.

    So that made me wonder how could we explain to this fellow what gay culture means.

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    I think an element is accepting gay as being valid and equal to being straight.
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    Jul 30, 2012 2:28 PM GMT
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    You have the gay culture that was in the days of Stonewall... gay culture from the gay bars/clubs for the party/circuit boys... gay culture from the conservative and closeted gays of the business and political worlds... and the ever changing front door slamming open world of gay celebrities coming out of the wood work that is normalizing homosexuality for mainstreamlined America... what is Gay Culture... the new Yuppie-LIKE Culture of the New Millennium, perhaps?
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    Jul 30, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
    Obscure saidGay culture would be defined as a place just for gay men. While others may make fun of this statement they give no solution as to where gay men should meet. Take this site for instance, how many reports have we heard of were during the meet-ups there was an orgy or group sex? Being gay is what you make it. There is something for everyone.
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    Jul 30, 2012 2:43 PM GMT
    Obscure said Being gay is what you make it. There is something for everyone.

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    JR_RJ saidYou have the gay culture that was in the days of Stonewall... gay culture from the gay bars/clubs for the party/circuit boys... gay culture from the conservative and closeted gays of the business and political worlds... and the ever changing front door slamming open world of gay celebrities coming out of the wood work that is normalizing homosexuality for mainstreamlined America... what is Gay Culture... the new Yuppie-LIKE Culture of the New Millennium, perhaps?

    I think you are on to something that gay culture is multi-faceted and one does not necessarily inhabit all facets at one time or maybe even ever.
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    JR_RJ saidYou have the gay culture that was in the days of Stonewall... gay culture from the gay bars/clubs for the party/circuit boys... gay culture from the conservative and closeted gays of the business and political worlds... and the ever changing front door slamming open world of gay celebrities coming out of the wood work that is normalizing homosexuality for mainstreamlined America... what is Gay Culture... the new Yuppie-LIKE Culture of the New Millennium, perhaps?

    I think you are on to something that gay culture is multi-faceted and one does not necessarily inhabit all facets at one time or maybe even ever.


    The problem is that statistically we're a minority. And finding someone is difficult at best. Let's say 10% of the people in my area are gay, and let's put half of those people as female, which cuts the possible mates for me in half. Then let's say about two thirds of those guys are either way too young or old for me, that gives me maybe 2% at best. Of those how many are not a good match for me?

    Finding someone without the venue of "gay culture" would be impossible. We need our events, bars, clubs, websites, etc.
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    Jul 30, 2012 3:28 PM GMT
    Gay Culture is just like Straight Culture in that it is variable. Straights only share one commonality ~ attraction to the opposite sex. Gays only share one commonality ~ attraction to the same sex.
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    Jul 30, 2012 4:11 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidGay Culture is just like Straight Culture in that it is variable. Straights only share one commonality ~ attraction to the opposite sex. Gays only share one commonality ~ attraction to the same sex.

    But gay culture has more to it than just sexual attraction.
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    Jul 30, 2012 4:13 PM GMT
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    Caslon20000 said
    JR_RJ saidYou have the gay culture that was in the days of Stonewall... gay culture from the gay bars/clubs for the party/circuit boys... gay culture from the conservative and closeted gays of the business and political worlds... and the ever changing front door slamming open world of gay celebrities coming out of the wood work that is normalizing homosexuality for mainstreamlined America... what is Gay Culture... the new Yuppie-LIKE Culture of the New Millennium, perhaps?

    I think you are on to something that gay culture is multi-faceted and one does not necessarily inhabit all facets at one time or maybe even ever.


    The problem is that statistically we're a minority. And finding someone is difficult at best. Let's say 10% of the people in my area are gay, and let's put half of those people as female, which cuts the possible mates for me in half. Then let's say about two thirds of those guys are either way too young or old for me, that gives me maybe 2% at best. Of those how many are not a good match for me?

    Finding someone without the venue of "gay culture" would be impossible. We need our events, bars, clubs, websites, etc.

    Yeah straight sexes dress differently so they can identify each other. We don't.
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    Jul 30, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    I think it lies somewhere between the aesthetics of the ancient Greeks and modern day Drag Queens--which is quite a broad spectrum, really.
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    Jul 30, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    Does being a subculture presume being cultured? (relax, just kidding)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture
    "In current usage, culture is that which distinguishes life in one group from life in another group; mental content, norms, institutions and physical objects, among other qualities."
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    Jul 30, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    Caslon20000 saidYeah straight sexes dress differently so they can identify each other. We don't.


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    Jul 30, 2012 4:52 PM GMT
    Gay culture? Never heard of it icon_neutral.gif
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    Jul 30, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
    Caslon20000 said
    AMoonHawk saidGay Culture is just like Straight Culture in that it is variable. Straights only share one commonality ~ attraction to the opposite sex. Gays only share one commonality ~ attraction to the same sex.

    But gay culture has more to it than just sexual attraction.

    I notice you didn't say that Straight Culture has more to it the sexual attration.
    Gay culture is multicultural, it is not a single mind culture, so you can't try to pinhole it into some singular form of common thought. The current conversation itself proves that it is not single minded frame of thought.
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    Jul 30, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
    There's that little thing about being hidden from the world for our entire life, spying on our family & friends as they unknowingly declare their stance on us, up until that hardly noticeable experience of coming out to them. Does that have anything to do with it?
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    Jul 30, 2012 5:02 PM GMT
    theantijock saidThere's that little thing about being hidden from the world for our entire life, spying on our family & friends as they unknowingly declare their stance on us, up until that hardly noticeable experience of coming out to them. Does that have anything to do with it?


    Yes, it's why we're all CRAZY.
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    theantijock saidThere's that little thing about being hidden from the world for our entire life, spying on our family & friends as they unknowingly declare their stance on us, up until that hardly noticeable experience of coming out to them. Does that have anything to do with it?


    Yes, it's why we're all CRAZY.


    & yet also clever. Crazy as a fox.
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    Jul 30, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
    Gay culture: overly sweet vodka drinks, self esteem issues, and lots of sex.
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    Jul 30, 2012 5:32 PM GMT
    I think of gay culture as living in weho
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    Jul 30, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidGay Culture is just like Straight Culture in that it is variable. Straights only share one commonality ~ attraction to the opposite sex. Gays only share one commonality ~ attraction to the same sex.


    Well said. Being gay is something I do in bed. It does not define me.
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    Jul 30, 2012 7:22 PM GMT
    catchy_screen_name saidGay culture: overly sweet vodka drinks, self esteem issues, and lots of sex.
    and 200 dalla jeans...
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    Jul 30, 2012 7:50 PM GMT
    Daas said

    Finding someone without the venue of "gay culture" would be impossible. We need our events, bars, clubs, websites, etc.


    I completely agree. That is why gay neighborhoods are really important, too. I currently live in suburbia, and it can get a little boring around here.

    I lived my 20s and part of my 30s in Seattle, in the Broadway area of Capitol Hill. It was fantastic to just be out living your regular daily life, run into friends, and flirt openly at the grocery store. The problem with this is that these neighborhoods tend to cater to people in their 20s and 30s, so the minute you turn 40 you become invisible to MOST of those guys. I'm glad I lived it up when I did.

    Another, perhaps more important aspect, to gay culture is the gay studies milieu. I have found that incredible scholarship is taking place as we speak in unlocking gay history, studying the boundaries and definitions of sexuality, and exploring gay sensibilities within non-white race and cultural groups. I've been reading more and more on these topics, and I find it fascinating how many of our great authors either were gay or went through a period of bisexuality in their youths.

    We are also living in a time when gay authors are gaining mainstream recognition, but are not sidelining the gay content of their work: Alan Hollinghurst, André Aciman, and Armistead Maupin are receiving critical praise not only from gay publications, but from the mainstream literary presses, as well. I would call THAT gay culture.