MItt praises OBAMACARE in ISRAEL

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    Jul 30, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-praises-israels-socialized-health-care-sys

    "JERUSALEM — Presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney offered praise for the Israeli health care system today — a medical plan that has been socialized since its founding in 1948.

    Highlighting the success of the Israeli system — in a country that enjoys one of the highest life expectancy rates in the world — could complicate matters for Romney at home."

    OBAMNEYCARE WORKS! It's time that MITT embraces it here at home.......as he does abroad.
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    Jul 30, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-praises-israels-socialized-health-care-sys
    Inconsistent like always. Typical Mittens.

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    Jul 30, 2012 11:25 PM GMT
    President Obama should definitely run with this. Mitt Romney has to be one of, if not the worst presidential candidates. At least some of his primary opponents had a little bit more conviction.
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    Jul 30, 2012 11:29 PM GMT
    LOL! What a windsock!
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    creature saidPresident Obama should definitely run with this.

    If not an ad, I at least see this coming back at Mitt in a debate.
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    Jul 30, 2012 11:41 PM GMT
    Poor Mittens. Must be really difficult keeping all his facts straight, while playing "Flip-flopping for the Presidency".
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    Jul 31, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but:

    1.Romney's praise was specifically focused on the low costs of the Israeli system.

    2. He has consistently said that what works in one place, be it Massachusetts or Israel, does not necessarily work in another place.

    3. Any attempt to show his comments in Israel are inconsistent with opposing Obamacare will easily fail based on cost alone. There is no serious projection that Obamacare costs would be anywhere near as low as those of the Israeli system. In fact, a well respected author, Marcia Angell, M.D., Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School, noted in the Huffington Post that: Obamacare is simply incapable of doing what it is supposed to do -- provide nearly universal care at an affordable and sustainable cost., referenced here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2494613
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    Jul 31, 2012 12:18 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidSorry to burst your bubble, but:

    1.Romney's praise was specifically focused on the low costs of the Israeli system.

    2. He has consistently said that what works in one place, be it Massachusetts or Israel, does not necessarily work in another place.

    3. Any attempt to show his comments in Israel are inconsistent with opposing Obamacare will easily fail based on cost alone. There is no serious projection that Obamacare costs would be anywhere near as low as those of the Israeli system. In fact, a well respected author, Marcia Angell, M.D., Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School, noted in the Huffington Post that: Obamacare is simply incapable of doing what it is supposed to do -- provide nearly universal care at an affordable and sustainable cost., referenced here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2494613


    Um, yeah. How's that been playing for Mitt so far? Note the line about dealing with healthcare.
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    Jul 31, 2012 12:53 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidSorry to burst your bubble, but:

    1.Romney's praise was specifically focused on the low costs of the Israeli system.

    2. He has consistently said that what works in one place, be it Massachusetts or Israel, does not necessarily work in another place.

    3. Any attempt to show his comments in Israel are inconsistent with opposing Obamacare will easily fail based on cost alone. There is no serious projection that Obamacare costs would be anywhere near as low as those of the Israeli system. In fact, a well respected author, Marcia Angell, M.D., Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School, noted in the Huffington Post that: Obamacare is simply incapable of doing what it is supposed to do -- provide nearly universal care at an affordable and sustainable cost., referenced here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2494613


    Um, yeah. How's that been playing for Mitt so far? Note the line about dealing with healthcare.

    Romney is still unknown to many who are not involved with politics this early. But was your chart an attempt to address my points on Romney's comments in Israel? If so, it failed.
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    Jul 31, 2012 1:01 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidSorry to burst your bubble, but:

    1.Romney's praise was specifically focused on the low costs of the Israeli system.

    2. He has consistently said that what works in one place, be it Massachusetts or Israel, does not necessarily work in another place.

    3. Any attempt to show his comments in Israel are inconsistent with opposing Obamacare will easily fail based on cost alone. There is no serious projection that Obamacare costs would be anywhere near as low as those of the Israeli system. In fact, a well respected author, Marcia Angell, M.D., Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School, noted in the Huffington Post that: Obamacare is simply incapable of doing what it is supposed to do -- provide nearly universal care at an affordable and sustainable cost., referenced here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2494613

    "We have to find ways, not just to provide health care to more people, but to find ways to finally manage our health care costs."

    Sounds like he believes there are more positives to Israel's socialized system than just the costs...
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    Jul 31, 2012 1:04 AM GMT
    creyente saidPoor Mittens. Must be really difficult keeping all his facts straight, while playing "Flip-flopping for the Presidency".


    It sure does make for hi-jinks and comedy, though. Hahahaha!

    I'm sooooooo enjoying his awkward and clumsy campaign as he makes a fool of himself on the global stage on a daily basis.
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    Jul 31, 2012 1:08 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidSorry to burst your bubble, but:

    1.Romney's praise was specifically focused on the low costs of the Israeli system.

    2. He has consistently said that what works in one place, be it Massachusetts or Israel, does not necessarily work in another place.

    3. Any attempt to show his comments in Israel are inconsistent with opposing Obamacare will easily fail based on cost alone. There is no serious projection that Obamacare costs would be anywhere near as low as those of the Israeli system. In fact, a well respected author, Marcia Angell, M.D., Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School, noted in the Huffington Post that: Obamacare is simply incapable of doing what it is supposed to do -- provide nearly universal care at an affordable and sustainable cost., referenced here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2494613


    Um, yeah. How's that been playing for Mitt so far? Note the line about dealing with healthcare.

    Romney is still unknown to many who are not involved with politics this early. But was your chart an attempt to address my points on Romney's comments in Israel? If so, it failed.

    Romney still unknown? Now that is just delusional. Even the most casual observer of news and politics in this country has heard of him by now. And much of the discussion in this thread has been about Mitt and his flip flopping and how that plays. Try to keep track.
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    Jul 31, 2012 1:14 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidSorry to burst your bubble, but:

    1.Romney's praise was specifically focused on the low costs of the Israeli system.

    2. He has consistently said that what works in one place, be it Massachusetts or Israel, does not necessarily work in another place.

    3. Any attempt to show his comments in Israel are inconsistent with opposing Obamacare will easily fail based on cost alone. There is no serious projection that Obamacare costs would be anywhere near as low as those of the Israeli system. In fact, a well respected author, Marcia Angell, M.D., Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School, noted in the Huffington Post that: Obamacare is simply incapable of doing what it is supposed to do -- provide nearly universal care at an affordable and sustainable cost., referenced here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2494613

    "We have to find ways, not just to provide health care to more people, but to find ways to finally manage our health care costs."

    Sounds like he believes there are more positives to Israel's socialized system than just the costs...

    You can believe what you want, but that specific sentence does not pertain to the Israeli system. It refers only to the need in the US "to find ways to finally manage our health care costs."
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    Jul 31, 2012 1:22 AM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    Iceblink said
    socalfitness saidSorry to burst your bubble, but:

    1.Romney's praise was specifically focused on the low costs of the Israeli system.

    2. He has consistently said that what works in one place, be it Massachusetts or Israel, does not necessarily work in another place.

    3. Any attempt to show his comments in Israel are inconsistent with opposing Obamacare will easily fail based on cost alone. There is no serious projection that Obamacare costs would be anywhere near as low as those of the Israeli system. In fact, a well respected author, Marcia Angell, M.D., Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School, noted in the Huffington Post that: Obamacare is simply incapable of doing what it is supposed to do -- provide nearly universal care at an affordable and sustainable cost., referenced here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2494613


    Um, yeah. How's that been playing for Mitt so far? Note the line about dealing with healthcare.

    Romney is still unknown to many who are not involved with politics this early. But was your chart an attempt to address my points on Romney's comments in Israel? If so, it failed.

    Romney still unknown? Now that is just delusional. Even the most casual observer of news and politics in this country has heard of him by now. And much of the discussion in this thread has been about Mitt and his flip flopping and how that plays. Try to keep track.

    They have heard of him but a significant number do not know his positions. To help illustrate the point, here are a few of your fellow Obama supporters on the mid-term election day:

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    Jul 31, 2012 1:25 AM GMT
    Balancing saidhttp://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-praises-israels-socialized-health-care-sys

    "JERUSALEM — Presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney offered praise for the Israeli health care system today — a medical plan that has been socialized since its founding in 1948.

    Highlighting the success of the Israeli system — in a country that enjoys one of the highest life expectancy rates in the world — could complicate matters for Romney at home."

    OBAMNEYCARE WORKS! It's time that MITT embraces it here at home.......as he does abroad.




    Ohhhhh Lordy...some of you are so simple-minded that it's truly scary. Obviously, Mitt Romney is all for a form of Universal health care --- he did, after all, champion this as a Governor of a state. He's never said he wasn't. What he is against is the over-the-top hugely expensive job cutting Obamacare. As President, you can bet Romney will be championing a stream-lined version of some kind of Universal healthcare that makes sense and that the country can afford.
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    CuriousJockAZ saidOhhhhh Lordy...some of you are so simple-minded that it's truly scary. Obviously, Mitt Romney is all for a form of Universal health care --- he did, after all, champion this as a Governor of a state. He's never said he wasn't. What he is against is the over-the-top hugely expensive job cutting Obamacare. As President, you can bet Romney will be championing a stream-lined version of some kind of Universal healthcare that makes sense and that the country can afford.

    Really? You would think with this being one of the biggest Republican battle cries for some time now and Mittens spending more than a year now criticizing the Affordable Care Act, he would have by now at least come up with a few details of what this plan would entail. Instead all we get is "Obamacare is bad." More likely he has nothing else to offer and if he were able to overturn this healthcare act, nothing is exactly what we would get.
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    Jul 31, 2012 1:51 AM GMT
    Mitt is a stupid man.
    Republicans had a gaggle of idiot clowns running and they picked themselves the best of the bunch.
    Sad.
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    Jul 31, 2012 2:16 AM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ saidOhhhhh Lordy...some of you are so simple-minded that it's truly scary. Obviously, Mitt Romney is all for a form of Universal health care --- he did, after all, champion this as a Governor of a state. He's never said he wasn't. What he is against is the over-the-top hugely expensive job cutting Obamacare. As President, you can bet Romney will be championing a stream-lined version of some kind of Universal healthcare that makes sense and that the country can afford.

    Really? You would think with this being one of the biggest Republican battle cries for some time now and Mittens spending more than a year now criticizing the Affordable Care Act, he would have by now at least come up with a few details of what this plan would entail. Instead all we get is "Obamacare is bad." More likely he has nothing else to offer and if he were able to overturn this healthcare act, nothing is exactly what we would get.


    And I dare Romney to say he is for universal healthcare. If he's for it, he's definitely not showing it.
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    Jul 31, 2012 2:27 AM GMT
    socalfitness says of MITTENS:

    "They have heard of him but a significant number do not know his positions."

    HOW IN HELL.......WOULD ANYONE......

    KNOW HIS POSITIONS ?
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    CuriousJockAZ saidOhhhhh Lordy...some of you are so simple-minded that it's truly scary. Obviously, Mitt Romney is all for a form of Universal health care --- he did, after all, champion this as a Governor of a state. He's never said he wasn't. What he is against is the over-the-top hugely expensive job cutting Obamacare. As President, you can bet Romney will be championing a stream-lined version of some kind of Universal healthcare that makes sense and that the country can afford.

    Really? You would think with this being one of the biggest Republican battle cries for some time now and Mittens spending more than a year now criticizing the Affordable Care Act, he would have by now at least come up with a few details of what this plan would entail. Instead all we get is "Obamacare is bad." More likely he has nothing else to offer and if he were able to overturn this healthcare act, nothing is exactly what we would get.


    And I dare Romney to say he is for universal healthcare. If he's for it, he's definitely not showing it.

    He's pulling a McCain by pretending to be conservative.

    When he loses on November 6, he'll go back to being the Massachusetts Moderate he always was.

    God, I HATE the GOP voters for picking such a pathetic excuse of a nominee. I wonder if the delegates might nominate someone else at the Convention? That's not an impossible scenario...
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    Jul 31, 2012 2:42 AM GMT
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    creature said
    Iceblink said
    CuriousJockAZ saidOhhhhh Lordy...some of you are so simple-minded that it's truly scary. Obviously, Mitt Romney is all for a form of Universal health care --- he did, after all, champion this as a Governor of a state. He's never said he wasn't. What he is against is the over-the-top hugely expensive job cutting Obamacare. As President, you can bet Romney will be championing a stream-lined version of some kind of Universal healthcare that makes sense and that the country can afford.

    Really? You would think with this being one of the biggest Republican battle cries for some time now and Mittens spending more than a year now criticizing the Affordable Care Act, he would have by now at least come up with a few details of what this plan would entail. Instead all we get is "Obamacare is bad." More likely he has nothing else to offer and if he were able to overturn this healthcare act, nothing is exactly what we would get.


    And I dare Romney to say he is for universal healthcare. If he's for it, he's definitely not showing it.

    He's pulling a McCain by pretending to be conservative.

    When he loses on November 6, he'll go back to being the Massachusetts Moderate he always was.

    God, I HATE the GOP voters for picking such a pathetic excuse of a nominee. I wonder if the delegates might nominate someone else at the Convention? That's not an impossible scenario...


    Rick Santorum was a better candidate than Romney.
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    Jul 31, 2012 2:44 AM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ saidOhhhhh Lordy...some of you are so simple-minded that it's truly scary. Obviously, Mitt Romney is all for a form of Universal health care --- he did, after all, champion this as a Governor of a state. He's never said he wasn't. What he is against is the over-the-top hugely expensive job cutting Obamacare. As President, you can bet Romney will be championing a stream-lined version of some kind of Universal healthcare that makes sense and that the country can afford.

    Really? You would think with this being one of the biggest Republican battle cries for some time now and Mittens spending more than a year now criticizing the Affordable Care Act, he would have by now at least come up with a few details of what this plan would entail. Instead all we get is "Obamacare is bad." More likely he has nothing else to offer and if he were able to overturn this healthcare act, nothing is exactly what we would get.


    And I dare Romney to say he is for universal healthcare. If he's for it, he's definitely not showing it.

    He's pulling a McCain by pretending to be conservative.

    When he loses on November 6, he'll go back to being the Massachusetts Moderate he always was.

    God, I HATE the GOP voters for picking such a pathetic excuse of a nominee. I wonder if the delegates might nominate someone else at the Convention? That's not an impossible scenario...


    Rick Santorum was a better candidate than Romney.

    You're just saying that because all of his secret boyfriends would have come forward and outed him as the October Surprise to sink Santorum. icon_razz.gif
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    socalfitness saidSorry to burst your bubble, but:

    1.Romney's praise was specifically focused on the low costs of the Israeli system.

    2. He has consistently said that what works in one place, be it Massachusetts or Israel, does not necessarily work in another place.

    3. Any attempt to show his comments in Israel are inconsistent with opposing Obamacare will easily fail based on cost alone. There is no serious projection that Obamacare costs would be anywhere near as low as those of the Israeli system. In fact, a well respected author, Marcia Angell, M.D., Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School, noted in the Huffington Post that: Obamacare is simply incapable of doing what it is supposed to do -- provide nearly universal care at an affordable and sustainable cost., referenced here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2494613


    Um, yeah. How's that been playing for Mitt so far? Note the line about dealing with healthcare.

    Romney is still unknown to many who are not involved with politics this early. But was your chart an attempt to address my points on Romney's comments in Israel? If so, it failed.
    In his own party even! Who woulda thunk?icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 31, 2012 3:03 AM GMT
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    Balancing saidhttp://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-praises-israels-socialized-health-care-sys

    "JERUSALEM — Presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney offered praise for the Israeli health care system today — a medical plan that has been socialized since its founding in 1948.

    Highlighting the success of the Israeli system — in a country that enjoys one of the highest life expectancy rates in the world — could complicate matters for Romney at home."

    OBAMNEYCARE WORKS! It's time that MITT embraces it here at home.......as he does abroad.




    Ohhhhh Lordy...some of you are so simple-minded that it's truly scary. Obviously, Mitt Romney is all for a form of Universal health care --- he did, after all, champion this as a Governor of a state. He's never said he wasn't. What he is against is the over-the-top hugely expensive job cutting Obamacare. As President, you can bet Romney will be championing a stream-lined version of some kind of Universal healthcare that makes sense and that the country can afford.
    Really? Well he hasnt invented it yet! How's he gonna sell something he hasnt invented?icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 31, 2012 3:07 AM GMT
    LiberalJock saidSo many of you in this topic are claiming that Mitt Romney is a disaster candidate but if he is such a disaster than why is President Obama and Mitt Romney tied in the polls so you really should take some time to read the news papers and the web sites unless you just care to post things to make yourselfs feel good so it would be good if some of you making these claims would be informed because otherwise you are just debating things that are not true. I do not understand why people in this forum folder are so mean and not accepting another point of view because in the other forum folders every one is pretty nice to each other.

    There's a 40/40/20 rule: Each party usually gets 40% of the vote, due to the traditional base. The other 20%, consisting of moderates, independents, and undecideds, however, is up for grabs. Romney and Obama haven't snatched very much of said 20%. Hence, why they're tied or nearly tied.