Chick-Fill-A Offends me!

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    Aug 01, 2012 5:40 AM GMT
    ....not because they are anti-gay, but because its 8 bucks for a damn chicken sandwich that is two times smaller than a MChicken! No but seriously I don't give a fuck and a half if a fast-food, calorie mart is against gays or whatever! Gays: Shut the hell up complaining about their opinions. Chick-Fill-A: Shut the hell up and just have some waffle fries ready for those days I cheat on my diet!

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    Aug 01, 2012 5:53 AM GMT
    let's have a kiki
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    Aug 01, 2012 12:15 PM GMT
    I know this topic has been covered ad-nauseum here, But I really can't understand how/why the majority of the media coverage around Chick-fil-A are burying the lead of the story. It's not that Dan Cathy has a religious opinion, it's that Chick-fil-A donated an estimated $5 million to anti-gay organizations to actively prevent marriage equality.

    If a company is trying to influence public policy it feels a bit disingenuous to simply call it a private opinion. I really wish the meat of the story was more apparent to the public in general, then maybe people would understand this isn't about one man's 'opinion'
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 01, 2012 12:18 PM GMT
    Well if you are "offended", I'd not go there.

    I haven't ever been in the place and don't plan on going anytime soon....
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    Aug 01, 2012 3:16 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidWell if you are "offended", I'd not go there.

    I haven't ever been in the place and don't plan on going anytime soon....
    I had before.. until I found out about the foundation.. that was the last time I did.. now I just go to mickey d's or some other joint.icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:13 PM GMT
    Stuttershock saidI know this topic has been covered ad-nauseum here, But I really can't understand how/why the majority of the media coverage around Chick-fil-A are burying the lead of the story. It's not that Dan Cathy has a religious opinion, it's that Chick-fil-A donated an estimated $5 million to anti-gay organizations to actively prevent marriage equality.

    If a company is trying to influence public policy it feels a bit disingenuous to simply call it a private opinion. I really wish the meat of the story was more apparent to the public in general, then maybe people would understand this isn't about one man's 'opinion'


    yea but I still do not care... neither do i care about gay marriage to keep it real
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:17 PM GMT
    Rain17 said


    yea but I still do not care... neither do i care about gay marriage to keep it real



    High IQ's are not in your genetic history, ehh? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:22 PM GMT
    18 year-old trolls are gonna troll.
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:25 PM GMT
    credo said18 year-old troll's are gonna troll.
    troll be straight ya know.. it loves boobies and slits.
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:27 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    Rain17 said


    yea but I still do not care... neither do i care about gay marriage to keep it real



    High IQ's are not in your genetic history, ehh? icon_rolleyes.gif


    I learned from my genetic history to not look at everything from the outside-in
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:32 PM GMT
    Stuttershock saidI know this topic has been covered ad-nauseum here, But I really can't understand how/why the majority of the media coverage around Chick-fil-A are burying the lead of the story. It's not that Dan Cathy has a religious opinion, it's that Chick-fil-A donated an estimated $5 million to anti-gay organizations to actively prevent marriage equality.

    If a company is trying to influence public policy it feels a bit disingenuous to simply call it a private opinion. I really wish the meat of the story was more apparent to the public in general, then maybe people would understand this isn't about one man's 'opinion'


    I think a lot of people are convincing themselves that they're reacting to the Chicago alderman, whom, legally speaking, can be seen as violating First Amendment rights, just like I think that this Cathy guy, the CEO, has convinced himself that his position on gay marriage is purely religious/moral, when a lot of it is based on politics, on his opposition to the tax increases that an Obama administration would bring to bear on the 1%. When the mainstream highjacks gay-rights issues, it's usually for ulterior purposes, imho.

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    Aug 01, 2012 4:34 PM GMT
    Stuttershock said

    If a company is trying to influence public policy it feels a bit disingenuous to simply call it a private opinion. I really wish the meat of the story was more apparent to the public in general, then maybe people would understand this isn't about one man's 'opinion'


    But, it kind of is one man's opinion. But, for the sake of argument, let's say it's the entire company's opinion. This is a privately held, Christian-based company and, like it or not, they have every right to make statements, endorse, or even give money to organizations who also endorse the way they think. We don't have to agree, we don't have to like it, and that's fine --- Don't support Chick-Fil-A. Companies, even publicly held ones, try to influence public policy all the time.
  • Jasonblue

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    Aug 01, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Stuttershock said

    If a company is trying to influence public policy it feels a bit disingenuous to simply call it a private opinion. I really wish the meat of the story was more apparent to the public in general, then maybe people would understand this isn't about one man's 'opinion'


    But, it kind of is one man's opinion. But, for the sake of argument, let's say it's the entire company's opinion. This is a privately held, Christian-based company and, like it or not, they have every right to make statements, endorse, or even give money to organizations who also endorse the way they think. We don't have to agree, we don't have to like it, and that's fine --- Don't support Chick-Fil-A. Companies, even publicly held ones, try to influence public policy all the time. This is nothing new.


    This is actually well stated. I just don't understand when other gays support the Chic-fil-A message. Everyone has a right to their opinion, it doesn't mean you have to defend that opinion.
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    Jasonblue said
    This is actually well stated. I just don't understand when other gays support the Chic-fil-A message.



    I don't really know that I have heard other gays necessarily support Chick-Fil-A's message. I think what they may be supporting is Chick-Fil-A's right --- or in this case really the CEO's right, to express that message, much as it may not be one we agree with at all.
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:40 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Jasonblue said
    This is actually well stated. I just don't understand when other gays support the Chic-fil-A message.



    I don't really know that I have heard other gays necessarily support Chick-Fil-A's message. I think what they may be supporting is Chick-Fil-A's right --- or in this case really the CEO's right, to express that message, much as it may not be one we agree with at all.


    You haven't, but this guy just did.

    Rain17yea but I still do not care... neither do i care about gay marriage to keep it real
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:40 PM GMT
    Jasonblue said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Stuttershock said

    If a company is trying to influence public policy it feels a bit disingenuous to simply call it a private opinion. I really wish the meat of the story was more apparent to the public in general, then maybe people would understand this isn't about one man's 'opinion'


    But, it kind of is one man's opinion. But, for the sake of argument, let's say it's the entire company's opinion. This is a privately held, Christian-based company and, like it or not, they have every right to make statements, endorse, or even give money to organizations who also endorse the way they think. We don't have to agree, we don't have to like it, and that's fine --- Don't support Chick-Fil-A. Companies, even publicly held ones, try to influence public policy all the time. This is nothing new.


    This is actually well stated. I just don't understand when other gays support the Chic-fil-A message.


    I actually never ate at a Chick-Fill-A I was just being crazy, but I just wish this was not such a big deal, unless they fucked you over like my friends mom who is a manager of a local Chick-Fill-A, shes leaving it btw so don't talk shit lol
  • Jasonblue

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    Aug 01, 2012 4:45 PM GMT
    To me it's not different than the right's yearly "War Against Christmas" charade. They threaten boycotts, and everything else, just because a store adopts Happy Holidays.

    And that's their right (the right's). I'll support their right to boycotts, even if I don't agree with them.

    Edit: With the caveat, I don't mind calling them out on it either icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:46 PM GMT
    Crank_N_Furter said
    novo said

    I think a lot of people are convincing themselves that they're reacting to the Chicago alderman and the Boston mayor, which, legally speaking, can be seen as a violation of First Amendment rights, just like I think that this Cathy guy, the CEO, has convinced himself that his position on gay marriage is purely religious/moral, when a lot of it is based on politics, on his opposition to the tax increases that an Obama administration would bring to bear on the 1%. When the mainstream highjacks gay-rights issues, it's usually for ulterior purposes, imho.

    I'm sorry---what were you saying? Your shirt was off and my mind was wandering---


    Sorry, Cranky. I had to edit that a bit after submitting, to make better sense. I'm a little flustered by some FB posts I'm seeing today icon_sad.gif.

    Here's my edited version:

    "I think a lot of people are convincing themselves that they're reacting to the Chicago alderman, whom, legally speaking, can be seen as violating First Amendment rights, just like I think that this Cathy guy, the CEO, has convinced himself that his position on gay marriage is purely religious/moral, when a lot of it is based on politics, on his opposition to the tax increases that an Obama administration would bring to bear on the 1%. When the mainstream highjacks gay-rights issues, it's usually for ulterior purposes, imho."

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    Aug 01, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    Jasonblue saidTo me it's not different than the right's yearly "War Against Christmas" charade. They threaten boycotts, and everything else, just because a store adopts Happy Holidays.

    And that's their right (the right's). I'll support their right to boycotts, even if I don't agree with them.


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    Aug 01, 2012 4:55 PM GMT
    Jasonblue said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Jasonblue said
    This is actually well stated. I just don't understand when other gays support the Chic-fil-A message.



    I don't really know that I have heard other gays necessarily support Chick-Fil-A's message. I think what they may be supporting is Chick-Fil-A's right --- or in this case really the CEO's right, to express that message, much as it may not be one we agree with at all.


    You haven't, but this guy just did.

    Rain17yea but I still do not care... neither do i care about gay marriage to keep it real


    Not caring, and actually supporting Chick-Fil-A are two entirely different things.
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    Aug 01, 2012 4:58 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Jasonblue said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Jasonblue said
    This is actually well stated. I just don't understand when other gays support the Chic-fil-A message.



    I don't really know that I have heard other gays necessarily support Chick-Fil-A's message. I think what they may be supporting is Chick-Fil-A's right --- or in this case really the CEO's right, to express that message, much as it may not be one we agree with at all.


    You haven't, but this guy just did.

    Rain17yea but I still do not care... neither do i care about gay marriage to keep it real


    Not caring, and actually supporting Chick-Fil-A are two entirely different things.


    It goes hand in hand no? If you don't care about equality/gay rights, it makes it easier to support Chick-Fil-A, and make messages like this. At any rate, I've had enough CFA debate to last a lifetime. Jason out icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 01, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
    Jasonblue said
    It goes hand in hand no? If you don't care about equality/gay rights, it makes it easier to support Chick-Fil-A, and make messages like this.


    I know plenty of gay guys who don't really care all that much about the issue of gay marriage. Obviously, they aren't against it, it's just not an issue on their personal front-burner. That said, this whole Chick-Fil-A brouhaha strikes them as sort of silly and overblown. I get that it is, however, a very passionate hot button topic for many in the gay community --- hence the brouhaha.
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    Aug 01, 2012 5:06 PM GMT


    Yeah, but see, my problem with the company is that they ARE violating several laws about many things. Not the one guy who thinks gay marriage is wrong.

    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/chick-fil-a-sued-for-firing-pregnant-woman-so-she-could-be-a-stay-home-mom/legal-issues/2012/07/26/44701
    Like this woman who was fired to be a stay at home mom.

    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/newly-christened-hate-group-frc-spews-lies-on-hardball/bigotry-watch/2010/11/29/15567
    Or the donations to the Family Research Council.

    In fact... just read.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-badash/chick-fil-a-5-reasons-it-isnt-what-you-think_b_1725237.html

    This ain't a first amendment issue. This is a company donating money to abhorrent things.

    Thanks, but I would rather NOT pay for some poor kids involuntary electroshock therapy.
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    Aug 01, 2012 5:09 PM GMT
    Olandew said
    Thanks, but I would rather NOT pay for some poor kids involuntary electroshock therapy.


    Then don't
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    Aug 01, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
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