WTF is "weightlifter gut"?

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    Aug 01, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
    Here's a post from the official site:

    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-eliminate-protruding-gut-lordosis/The fact is that you won't keep that skinny, girly, brad-pitt-fight-club-waist if you Squat and Deadlift heavy. You will NOT develop a huge belly like many of those +300lb powerlifters have unless you let yourself become fat (just look at lighter powerlifters, they don't have huge bellies), but you will get a "weightlifter gut".



    WTF is the author talking about? I've been on stronglifts for a while now but a "gut" of any sort is not what I signed up for. DO NOT WANT. Help! What should I do?
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    Aug 02, 2012 12:32 AM GMT
    calf saidHere's a post from the official site:

    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-eliminate-protruding-gut-lordosis/The fact is that you won't keep that skinny, girly, brad-pitt-fight-club-waist if you Squat and Deadlift heavy. You will NOT develop a huge belly like many of those +300lb powerlifters have unless you let yourself become fat (just look at lighter powerlifters, they don't have huge bellies), but you will get a "weightlifter gut".



    WTF is the author talking about? I've been on stronglifts for a while now but a "gut" of any sort is not what I signed up for. DO NOT WANT. Help! What should I do?


    how about stop stronglifting heavy or get lipo and suck it all out. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 02, 2012 12:40 AM GMT
    What you're calling "weightlifter gut", others are calling "roid gut". Steroids causes ALL the muscles in the body to get bigger, including the abs. Certain HIV medications can also cause this and when used in combination with steroids, the gut can stick out way past the chest. This type of stomach is very hard and shouldn't be confused with a fat stomach.
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    Aug 02, 2012 12:42 AM GMT
    Do more cardio and eat less fats/carbs. But, this may lean you out (you may loose the bulk you are working so hard to put on). You can always wait to put on some muscle and then later lean down; this way you end up with more lean muscle in the long run.
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    Aug 02, 2012 12:53 AM GMT
    Blackguy4you said
    how about stop stronglifting heavy or get lipo and suck it all out. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Well, yeah the entire appeal of stronglifts was how simple it was. Now I feel compelled to redesign my workout so as to avoid that side effect.
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    Aug 02, 2012 12:55 AM GMT
    I thought it was just steroids that gave the 'pregnant' gut.
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    Aug 02, 2012 12:57 AM GMT
    Steroids, Human growth hormone, or Aids
    pharmaceuticals can cause lifter gut....

    You can also develop a lifter gut just by doing
    Ab work the wrong way ...

    If it's not a result of HIV or steroids you can
    Usually cardio it off if you don't mind losing
    some muscle mass in the process ...

    I just found out 6'4" Michael Phelps weighs
    194 lbs.... I'm 5'9". and weigh 196... I'm feeling
    fat at the moment ....:-)
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    Aug 02, 2012 12:59 AM GMT
    Why would doing stronglifts give you a roid gut??
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    Aug 02, 2012 1:00 AM GMT
    d694485 saidWhy would doing stronglifts give you a roid gut??


    Because that's what he seems to be saying. Which I thought was WTF?? It's pretty clear from the paragraph he's not talking about changes caused by drug use, which is well known.

    Note he calls it "weightlifter gut" as opposed to roid gut or HGH gut, etc.
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    Aug 02, 2012 1:05 AM GMT
    He's saying you're NOT going to get a roid gut. I don't see how doing squats and deadlifts are going to make you get a roid gut. Don't use steroids and don't eat so much that you get fat.

    Edit: tomayto tomahto. I think you're worrying too much. You're gonna have to work out a long time before you start seeing any "weightlifter gut" as far as I'm concerned. And if you see signs, then stop
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    Aug 02, 2012 1:22 AM GMT
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    Scruffypup saidWhat you're calling "weightlifter gut", others are calling "roid gut". Steroids causes ALL the muscles in the body to get bigger, including the abs. Certain HIV medications can also cause this and when used in combination with steroids, the gut can stick out way past the chest. This type of stomach is very hard and shouldn't be confused with a fat stomach.


    Can you show me a pic hun?



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    Aug 02, 2012 1:45 PM GMT
    Lol. You won't get roid gut if you don't do roids. When you lift heavy, you put a lot of stress on your core. So the weightlifter gut the author is referring to is a result of overdeveloped / stretched muscles in your mid-section.
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    Aug 02, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
    To build massive muscle, don't you have to over-eat? Doesn't over-eating result in a belly? Slimming down cannibalizes excess muscle, which terrifies body-builders. A lot of body builders go through cycles of gaining, which results in over-eating and bigger bellies, and cutting, which results in under-eating and getting ripped. If you don't want that to live on that kind of roller coaster, just find a good food and exercise balance that gives you what you want.
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    Aug 02, 2012 2:05 PM GMT
    insulin and HGH


    dooesnt come cheap though

    google "growth belly"

    funny shit
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    Aug 02, 2012 2:10 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidWhat you're calling "weightlifter gut", others are calling "roid gut". Steroids causes ALL the muscles in the body to get bigger, including the abs. Certain HIV medications can also cause this and when used in combination with steroids, the gut can stick out way past the chest. This type of stomach is very hard and shouldn't be confused with a fat stomach.


    thats not correct. anabolic steroids do not cause the abs to grow in this way at all.

    its due to post workout insulin injections injected sub-q directly into the belly. to up the absorbence o protien, and hgh or human growth hormone. neither of these are anabolic steroids.
    there is a third factor also IGF-1 or insulin like growth factor, this used in conjunction with the hgh and insulin creates a growth cycle far more extrem than that of a steroid user, the forehead grows, hands, feet, everything its pretty rough but pro BB's need it. longterm.

    granted almost everyone taking these compounds will also be using anabolics to enhance their effects and up testosterone levels. but that it not the cause.
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    Aug 02, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
    it´s not the abs that grow from roids, it´s the smooth muscle of the organs which pushes the abdomen out...

    You will not get that kind of deformity from lifting heavy. Just look at some of the female olympiads (non doping vs the BBs who dope)

    Also "girly waist". I bet you the guy who wrote that has a huge muffin top...
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    Aug 02, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    calf saidHere's a post from the official site:

    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-eliminate-protruding-gut-lordosis/The fact is that you won't keep that skinny, girly, brad-pitt-fight-club-waist if you Squat and Deadlift heavy. You will NOT develop a huge belly like many of those +300lb powerlifters have unless you let yourself become fat (just look at lighter powerlifters, they don't have huge bellies), but you will get a "weightlifter gut".



    WTF is the author talking about? I've been on stronglifts for a while now but a "gut" of any sort is not what I signed up for. DO NOT WANT. Help! What should I do?

    The author is saying that by building your core you will have a slightly thicker waist due to increased muscle mass than the skinny girly waist (in the bodybuilding world the Brad Pitt fight club look is skinny & girly). But on the other hand you wont get a big gut unless you let yourself get fat.

    You have to understand the difference between a powerlifter and bodybuilder to understand what he is talking about.

    Powerlifters aren't concerned with how they look. They are concerned with how much they can lift. The extra body-fat helps stabilize the body to lift more weight.

    Bodybuilders on the other hand are concerned with size and shape of the body. They don't care how much one can lift or who can lift more than whom.

    Take a closer look at a powerlifting competition and you'll see lots of weights on stage. Now look at a bodybuilding competition and you'll notice that there aren't any weights on stage.

    Olympic lifting (aka weight lifting) is a different animal and nothing to do with this topic.

    Steroids can get you a 'roid gut' but it depends on what you do and how much and how long.

    HIV meds have nothing to do with what the author is talking about. Some of the older HIV meds resulted in what is called 'lipodistrophy' which means 'redistribution of fat'. The author of the quote isn't talking about that.

    Train according to your goal. If you want to look like a bodybuilder, then train like a bodybuilder. Don't expect to train for one sport and expect to have the skills/looks of another.
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    Aug 02, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
    TellMeMoarTrain according to your goal. If you want to look like a bodybuilder, then train like a bodybuilder. Don't expect to train for one sport and expect to have the skills/looks of another.


    Yeah, exactly everything you said. I haven't been worrying about what "look" to have, thus far just following StrongLifts 5x5 to gain strength and weight. But now I am feeling ambivalence about what kind of physique I would like work towards. There's no online catalog of all the different possible training programs and how you'll look in the end.
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    Aug 02, 2012 11:58 PM GMT
    The author is just renaming it to cover up the fact that many people who lift heavy also use roids and/or HGH.

    It won't happen to you unless you also use that stuff.
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    Aug 03, 2012 12:26 AM GMT
    calf saidThere's no online catalog of all the different possible training programs and how you'll look in the end.


    Lifting Goals :: Long Term Physique Development
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    2-3 sets of 2-3 reps at near 90%+ of 1RM :: Powerlifting (big, insanely strong and often kind of chubby guys who don't care as much about body aesthetics)

    5 sets of 5 reps at 75%-85% of 1RM :: Power with slow-gaining musc. hypertrophy (wiry to thick, but strong muscle per gram of muscle)

    3-5 sets of 8-12 reps at 60% - 75% of 1RM :: Muscular Hypertrophy (bodybuilder)

    3-5 sets of 12-15 reps at 40% - 60% of 1RM :: Very lean, toned guys


    StrongLifts 5x5 is designed as a sort of an entry-level program for training in the power zone of muscular development. There is actually a more accurate word for this zone, but the program is modeled somewhat after that which a powerlifter might want to start out with.

    I've been doing Stronglifts 5x5 at around 80%-85% of my 1RM for about a year, and am slowing modifying it to be more like a conventional bodybuilder's workout (3x10 with somewhat lighter weights in the 65%-75% of my 1RM depending on the targeted body area)

    I'm making decent gains, though I need to make sure I'm getting enough sleep, lol...!

    Still doing a lot of the SL exercises, particularly the squats and deadlifts (closer to the 5x5 or 4x5 ranges, bracketed with warm-up/cool-down sets of 10reps at around 30%-40% of 1RM with bodyweight exercises on my "off" days.

    I'm coming to terms with the fact that I'll never be a huge-bulky bodybuilder (I just don't have the genetics or the time or food budget for it), but I'll definitely be as strong as I can be pound for lean-built pound.
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    Aug 03, 2012 12:33 AM GMT
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    Obscure said
    Scruffypup saidWhat you're calling "weightlifter gut", others are calling "roid gut". Steroids causes ALL the muscles in the body to get bigger, including the abs. Certain HIV medications can also cause this and when used in combination with steroids, the gut can stick out way past the chest. This type of stomach is very hard and shouldn't be confused with a fat stomach.


    Can you show me a pic hun?



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    I've seen this guy... Tony Maxim?