Australian state of Tasmania to legalize same-sex marriage

  • metta

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    Aug 04, 2012 6:29 AM GMT

    Australian state to legalize same-sex marriage

    The last Australian state to decriminalize homosexuality looks set to become the first to legalize same-sex marriage in a historic turn around

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/australian-state-legalize-same-sex-marriage040812
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    Aug 04, 2012 12:03 PM GMT
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    Aug 04, 2012 12:23 PM GMT
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    I'm confused ...
    There's supposed to be a picture right?

    Oh shit ... I've gone blind!
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    Aug 04, 2012 12:27 PM GMT
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    Aug 04, 2012 12:31 PM GMT
    dayumm saidclip-art-tasmanian-devil-454219.jpg


    I'M HEALED!
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    Aug 04, 2012 12:36 PM GMT
    Marriage is a federal domain here as the ACT previously tried to legalise but this was overturned at a federal level (however there has been much debate at federal level so a different playing field now than previously).

    Speaking of the devils though, they are under increasing threat of extinction in recent years due to a highly contagious disease that has decimated their population.
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    Aug 06, 2012 6:52 PM GMT
    Future In-Laws Brought Together by Their Gay Sons in Touching New Australian Marriage Equality



    http://www.towleroad.com/2012/08/australiaad.html
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    Aug 06, 2012 6:56 PM GMT
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    win
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    Aug 06, 2012 6:56 PM GMT
    Woo to Australia!
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    Aug 06, 2012 7:22 PM GMT
    metta8 saidFuture In-Laws Brought Together by Their Gay Sons in Touching New Australian Marriage Equality



    http://www.towleroad.com/2012/08/australiaad.html


    Must be nothing more than a state of mind, because albeit as a true Blue Aussie, newcomers to Oz get rights I do not have. yet I am able to do my own thing, love whom I want, and how I want. I am equal; I am Aussie too, and I don't have to worrie about a gay divorce eithericon_wink.gif
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    Aug 07, 2012 7:28 AM GMT
    Tassie Parliament in deadlock on gay marriage


    http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/07/tassie-parliament-in-deadlock-on-gay-marriage/
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    Aug 07, 2012 7:38 AM GMT
    So selfish you are TBA - if it doesn't benefit you I.e. polygamy you oppose change!
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    Aug 07, 2012 7:53 AM GMT
    In fact the ACT are calling them Gay Ceremonies, moving away from the oxymoron term of gay Marriage.
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    Aug 07, 2012 7:55 AM GMT
    ozgreenguy saidMarriage is a federal domain here as the ACT previously tried to legalise but this was overturned at a federal level (however there has been much debate at federal level so a different playing field now than previously).

    Speaking of the devils though, they are under increasing threat of extinction in recent years due to a highly contagious disease that has decimated their population.


    Marriage Equality is a federal issue as all the states handed over their powers to marry people years ago. The Federal Parliament is due to discuss Marriage Equality later this year but it is unlikely to pass.

    Tasmania may wish to introduce Marriage Equality, however it will be challenged in the High Court by the Federal government.
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    Aug 07, 2012 7:59 AM GMT
    SWEET!
    So whenever I do have a relationship, we can get married in Australia! icon_biggrin.gif

    I had a friend get married overseas even though they were both born in Australia, and oh man the paper work they had to do to prove all kinds of information was crazy!

    Now I can avoid that icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 07, 2012 8:10 AM GMT
    Now if only the US would recognize an international same-sex marriage. icon_confused.gif
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    Aug 07, 2012 8:23 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidNow if only the US would recognize an international same-sex marriage. icon_confused.gif


    Oh but Obama said he supported it, and gave the power to the states to decide.

    But Julia bless her heart, said just because Obama endorsed gay marriage she was not going to be forced to; her view was still the same.

    But it's a whole lot of hype, because even if passed, it will be challenged in the High Court.
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    Aug 07, 2012 8:35 AM GMT
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    paulflexes saidNow if only the US would recognize an international same-sex marriage. icon_confused.gif


    Oh but Obama said he supported it, and gave the power to the states to decide.

    But Julia bless her heart, said just because Obama endorsed gay marriage she was not going to be forced to; her view was still the same.

    But it's a whole lot of hype, because even if passed, it will be challenged in the High Court.
    And you are probably against Tasmania's decision to legalize gay marriage because you seem to think that civil unions are what we need instead. I find it funny you'd even post on this thread. If you lived in Tazmania, I bet you'd be one of the assholes who voted against it.
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    Aug 07, 2012 8:52 AM GMT
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    tru_blu_auzzie said
    paulflexes saidNow if only the US would recognize an international same-sex marriage. icon_confused.gif


    Oh but Obama said he supported it, and gave the power to the states to decide.

    But Julia bless her heart, said just because Obama endorsed gay marriage she was not going to be forced to; her view was still the same.

    But it's a whole lot of hype, because even if passed, it will be challenged in the High Court.
    And you are probably against Tasmania's decision to legalize gay marriage because you seem to think that civil unions are what we need instead. I find it funny you'd even post on this thread. If you lived in Tazmania, I bet you'd be one of the assholes who voted against it.


    Well no matter where one lives it's my vote to do as I wish; and one has never been to Tazmaina, let alone lived thereicon_wink.gif

    But there is little difference to Civil Unions and gay marriage, the biggest difference is Civil Unions behold the least resistive, thus progress would come faster.

    Oh our dear g0y and why is it OK for you to be an Arsehole, and not I?
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    Aug 07, 2012 9:07 AM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    paulflexes said
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    paulflexes saidNow if only the US would recognize an international same-sex marriage. icon_confused.gif


    Oh but Obama said he supported it, and gave the power to the states to decide.

    But Julia bless her heart, said just because Obama endorsed gay marriage she was not going to be forced to; her view was still the same.

    But it's a whole lot of hype, because even if passed, it will be challenged in the High Court.
    And you are probably against Tasmania's decision to legalize gay marriage because you seem to think that civil unions are what we need instead. I find it funny you'd even post on this thread. If you lived in Tazmania, I bet you'd be one of the assholes who voted against it.


    Well no matter where one lives it's my vote to do as I wish; ...
    No other words needed. You should be permanently banned from this site.
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    Aug 07, 2012 9:24 AM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    paulflexes said
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    paulflexes saidNow if only the US would recognize an international same-sex marriage. icon_confused.gif


    Oh but Obama said he supported it, and gave the power to the states to decide.

    But Julia bless her heart, said just because Obama endorsed gay marriage she was not going to be forced to; her view was still the same.

    But it's a whole lot of hype, because even if passed, it will be challenged in the High Court.
    And you are probably against Tasmania's decision to legalize gay marriage because you seem to think that civil unions are what we need instead. I find it funny you'd even post on this thread. If you lived in Tazmania, I bet you'd be one of the assholes who voted against it.


    Well no matter where one lives it's my vote to do as I wish; and one has never been to Tazmaina, let alone lived thereicon_wink.gif

    But there is little difference to Civil Unions and gay marriage, the biggest difference is Civil Unions behold the least resistive, thus progress would come faster.

    Oh our dear g0y and why is it OK for you to be an Arsehole, and not I?


    You fucking retard, I knew you werent even an Aussie yet again you spell an intrinsic Australian word wrong! If i wasnt so full of the flu id write more but seriously you dumb fuck do research before you pretend to be something youre not.
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    Aug 07, 2012 9:26 AM GMT
    northoz said
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    paulflexes said
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    paulflexes saidNow if only the US would recognize an international same-sex marriage. icon_confused.gif


    Oh but Obama said he supported it, and gave the power to the states to decide.

    But Julia bless her heart, said just because Obama endorsed gay marriage she was not going to be forced to; her view was still the same.

    But it's a whole lot of hype, because even if passed, it will be challenged in the High Court.
    And you are probably against Tasmania's decision to legalize gay marriage because you seem to think that civil unions are what we need instead. I find it funny you'd even post on this thread. If you lived in Tazmania, I bet you'd be one of the assholes who voted against it.


    Well no matter where one lives it's my vote to do as I wish; and one has never been to Tazmaina, let alone lived thereicon_wink.gif

    But there is little difference to Civil Unions and gay marriage, the biggest difference is Civil Unions behold the least resistive, thus progress would come faster.

    Oh our dear g0y and why is it OK for you to be an Arsehole, and not I?


    You fucking retard, I knew you werent even an Aussie yet again you spell an intrinsic Australian word wrong! If i wasnt so full of the flu id write more but seriously you dumb fuck do research before you pretend to be something youre not.
    Does this mean I get a free pass for misspelling it, even after spelling it correctly earlier in the same post? icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 07, 2012 9:43 AM GMT
    As some other posters have pointed out, this is a bit of a ballsy move by Tasmania. I commented on this development on my uni's Queer Collective page.

    Under the Australian Constitution s 51 (xxi) and (xxii), the Cth has power to legislate on marriage and 'matrimonial causes' respectively. This is a concurrent power, so States can legislate on these matters provided it doesn't conflict with Commonwealth (read: Federal) legislation. The Commonwealth has enacted the Marriage Act 1951, so it's now a Cth matter.

    In 2004, the Howard Government, in a move to deny recognition of same-sex marriages conducted in Canada, amended the Marriage Act 1951 to define marriage as 'the union of a man and a woman voluntarily entered into for life to the exclusion of all others'.

    Tasmania now argues that this means the Cth has limited itself to heterosexual marriage, and Tas can now legislate for same-sex marriage, as if it's a separate category.

    Personally, I don't think it would survive a High Court challenge, and it's really a measure taken to exert pressure on the Gillard Government. I'd be over the moon if it did succeed though icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 07, 2012 10:02 AM GMT
    kangourou said...
    In 2004, the Howard Government, in a move to deny recognition of same-sex marriages conducted in Canada, amended the Marriage Act 1951 to define marriage as 'the union of a man and a woman voluntarily entered into for life to the exclusion of all others'.
    ...
    And if that were held verbatim, any hetero spouse that has an extramarital affair should immediately be stricken from the books, and be legally recognized as single again.
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    Aug 07, 2012 10:15 AM GMT
    The Howard Government amendment was on the back the Bush Governments proposed Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004 - however this was never passed from memory?