who the fuck thought of the no drinking until 21 law

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    Aug 04, 2012 10:55 AM GMT
    Fucking moron.

    You can live by yourself, support yourself, pay your own rent....but heyy..no legal drinking...only the illegal one which you will obviously do.

    Like what is this place called the world...and why are you all so dumb?

    Snap out of it.
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    Aug 04, 2012 11:09 AM GMT
    Welcome to America: being retarded is a matter of national pride.
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    Aug 04, 2012 11:36 AM GMT
    GonzoTheGreat saidWelcome to America: being retarded is a matter of national pride.


    Meh. Plenty of retardation in other countries too.
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    Aug 04, 2012 12:19 PM GMT
    Dj1990 saidFucking moron.

    You can live by yourself, support yourself, pay your own rent....but heyy..no legal drinking...only the illegal one which you will obviously do.

    Like what is this place called the world...and why are you all so dumb?

    Snap out of it.


    This place is not called 'The World' its called 'The USA' where many stupid people run your country and have run your country.
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    Aug 04, 2012 1:41 PM GMT
    It is ridiculous.
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    Aug 04, 2012 4:01 PM GMT
    In Canada we can legally drink at 19. If you're in Quebec it's 18.
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    Aug 04, 2012 4:25 PM GMT
    When I was 18 the States and some local jurisdictions determined the drinking age, and in some it was in fact 18. For instance my home State of New Jersey was 21, but right across the border in New York State you could drink legally at 18, while even closer to me in New York City it was 21.

    Hence lots of us Jersey teens drove into New York State to drink. But many also got killed returning drunk on winding back roads, and the rate of automotive accidents & fatalities was blamed on teen drinking. States like New Jersey lobbied for a national standard of 21, to prevent the cross-border drinking & driving by teens. (Apparently universally lowering to age to 18 wasn't considered the better option)

    This at the same time that the Federal voting age was being lowered to 18, partly a result of the unpopular Vietnam War. The argument was that young men could be drafted to fight & die for their country, but they weren't old enough to vote about it. But on the other hand now they couldn't drink to it. A bit schizophrenic all around.

    And BTW, many States, especially in the South where I was stationed, had "dry" counties where no liquor could be sold at all. It kept a lot of us soldiers in the on-post clubs, the only places we could drink (at 18 before the Federal law changed). Even today there are dry counties, but the work-around is the bar calls itself a private club, and you have to buy a membership to enter. Then you can drink. Typical US lunacy, a mix of religion and right-wing politics producing illogical results.
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    Aug 04, 2012 4:26 PM GMT
    I thought the same thing until i turned 21.

    Now i don't give a shit icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 04, 2012 5:12 PM GMT
    Dj1990 said
    GonzoTheGreat saidWelcome to America: being retarded is a matter of national pride.


    Meh. Plenty of retardation in other countries too.


    So because plenty other places are like that, it's fine? icon_lol.gif

    Anyway, yea it was quite annoying moving from somewhere where the age is 18 to the USA where it is 21. But I'll be 21 in five days, so it won't matter anymore.
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    Aug 04, 2012 8:43 PM GMT
    AlexanderB saidI thought the same thing until i turned 21.

    Now i don't give a shit icon_biggrin.gif


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    Aug 04, 2012 8:56 PM GMT
    Back in my 18 to 20 years, a long time ago, you could get into every bar or club and once in there, most places rarely checked to see if you were actually old enough to drink. Often you could buy from the bartender yourself. The bars didn't get busted as much. Today many bars will not let under 21 in and if they do, they seem to monitor the underage a lot more. Some states do not even allow under 21 into clubs.
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    Aug 04, 2012 9:01 PM GMT
    How about age of candidacy laws...I think it's discrimination. If you can vote then you should be to able to run for any office. In the UK the only age you have to be to run for any office is 18.

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    Aug 04, 2012 9:03 PM GMT
    neurological scans show the part of the the brain involved in impulse control is not fully formed until the mid 20s.


    It turns out the rule (although it antedated the science to prove it) is physiologically justified.

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    Aug 04, 2012 9:05 PM GMT
    Used to be 18 in Michigan and here in Ontario back my day.. Now it's 21 in Michigan and 19 in Ontario. If you can vote you should be able to drink imho.
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    Aug 04, 2012 9:06 PM GMT
    Jaxe saidHow about age of candidacy laws...I think it's discrimination. If you can vote then you should be to able to run for any office. In the UK the only age you have to be to run for any office is 18.


    same in Canada.

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    Aug 04, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    beneful1 saidUsed to be 18 in Michigan and here in Ontario back my day.. Now it's 21 in Michigan and 19 in Ontario. If you can vote you should be able to drink imho.

    Michigan has been 21 since 1978. if your were coming from Ontario to bars in Michigan, you probably didn't notice since few checked, especially in bars in Detroit.