Did Gatlin deserve his medal?

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    Aug 06, 2012 10:16 AM GMT
    An issue with a fair bit of debate surrounding it over here as far as I'm aware.

    If you have been living in a box, heres the info.

    Gatlin came 3rd in the 100m Final last night.

    He hs previous doping history;

    On July 29, 2006 Justin Gatlin told the media that he had been informed by the USADA that he had given a positive doping test in April the same year. He did, however, claim his innocence in the matter: "I cannot account for these results, because I have never knowingly used any banned substance or authorized anyone to administer such a substance to me."[7]
    It is believed that the substance that Gatlin has tested positive for was "testosterone or its precursor."[8] The failed test was revealed after a relay race on April 22, 2006 in Lawrence, Kansas. The "B" sample was confirmed as positive in July.
    Gatlin is coached by Trevor Graham. Among athletes Graham has coached, eight have tested positive or received bans for performance enhancing drugs.[9] After Gatlin's failed test, Graham stated in an interview that Gatlin had been sabotaged.[10] Specifically, he blamed massage therapist Christopher Whetstine for rubbing a creme with testosterone onto Gatlin's buttocks without his knowledge. The therapist denied this claim, saying: "Trevor Graham is not speaking on behalf of Justin Gatlin and the story about me is not true."[11]
    On August 22, 2006 Gatlin agreed to an eight-year ban from track and field, avoiding a lifetime ban in exchange for his cooperation with the doping authorities, and because of the "exceptional circumstances" surrounding his first positive drug test.[12] However, on December 31, 2007, in the final ruling, Gatlin received a four-year ban from athletics. Furthermore, his 9.77 performance, set in May 2006, was annulled.

    (thanks to wiki)


    Haven't made my mind up on this yet. So my questions are...

    Did he deserve to get the chance to compete? Is him competing in the Olympics bastardise the spirit of the competition? Should there be a one-strike all-out ban? Given his co-operation with the matter, does that redeem him? Opinions?
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    Aug 06, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
    As long as he wasn't on something for this race, yes, of course he deserved it.
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    Aug 06, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    BarettaB80 saidAs long as he wasn't on something for this race, yes, of course he deserved it.
    This* but it seems he may have also deserved a ram in the ass apparently? icon_neutral.gificon_question.gif
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    Aug 06, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
    BarettaB80 saidAs long as he wasn't on something for this race, yes, of course he deserved it.


    ^ This. And he's fine as hell...haha.

    But seriously, I read about his previous doping and that's a shame, but I think we should give these guys a second chance. They have so much pressure to succeed.
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    Aug 06, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
    Yeh, I agreed. But a number of my friends here thought otherwise, and I could kinda see their point
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    Aug 06, 2012 2:42 PM GMT
    surfswim saidAn issue with a fair bit of debate surrounding it over here as far as I'm aware.

    If you have been living in a box, heres the info.

    Gatlin came 3rd in the 100m Final last night.

    He hs previous doping history;

    On July 29, 2006 Justin Gatlin told the media that he had been informed by the USADA that he had given a positive doping test in April the same year. He did, however, claim his innocence in the matter: "I cannot account for these results, because I have never knowingly used any banned substance or authorized anyone to administer such a substance to me."[7]
    It is believed that the substance that Gatlin has tested positive for was "testosterone or its precursor."[8] The failed test was revealed after a relay race on April 22, 2006 in Lawrence, Kansas. The "B" sample was confirmed as positive in July.
    Gatlin is coached by Trevor Graham. Among athletes Graham has coached, eight have tested positive or received bans for performance enhancing drugs.[9] After Gatlin's failed test, Graham stated in an interview that Gatlin had been sabotaged.[10] Specifically, he blamed massage therapist Christopher Whetstine for rubbing a creme with testosterone onto Gatlin's buttocks without his knowledge. The therapist denied this claim, saying: "Trevor Graham is not speaking on behalf of Justin Gatlin and the story about me is not true."[11]
    On August 22, 2006 Gatlin agreed to an eight-year ban from track and field, avoiding a lifetime ban in exchange for his cooperation with the doping authorities, and because of the "exceptional circumstances" surrounding his first positive drug test.[12] However, on December 31, 2007, in the final ruling, Gatlin received a four-year ban from athletics. Furthermore, his 9.77 performance, set in May 2006, was annulled.

    (thanks to wiki)


    Haven't made my mind up on this yet. So my questions are...

    Did he deserve to get the chance to compete? Is him competing in the Olympics bastardise the spirit of the competition? Should there be a one-strike all-out ban? Given his co-operation with the matter, does that redeem him? Opinions?


    he deserved the chance to compete as the idiots did not give him a life ban, as they should to all dopers.

    the question is: whether he is clean now or still using ped. i am of the opinion that he's on peds. when he was on peds he ran 9.77. how is he able to run 9.79 without being on ped and being 8 years older? doesn't seem logical to me.
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    Aug 06, 2012 2:43 PM GMT
    active_athlete said
    BarettaB80 saidAs long as he wasn't on something for this race, yes, of course he deserved it.


    ^ This. And he's fine as hell...haha.

    But seriously, I read about his previous doping and that's a shame, but I think we should give these guys a second chance. They have so much pressure to succeed.


    bull shit.
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    Aug 06, 2012 2:49 PM GMT
    So you think a doper should get a life ban following a first incidence?
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    Aug 06, 2012 3:07 PM GMT
    surfswim saidSo you think a doper should get a life ban following a first incidence?


    absofreakinglutely! do you think a doper accidently stumbles into doping? just supposed he or she never gets caught and wins every single time they compete - what about the other competitors who competed clean with said person?

    once a cheat - always a cheat! gatlin is on ped

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    Aug 06, 2012 4:03 PM GMT
    Once they determined he was eligible to race, and he finished 3rd without, like, tripping anybody, then yep, bronze it is. Any issues about doping should have been resolved before the firing pistol. And if he has to take extra-special drug tests post-race then so be it.
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    Aug 06, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
    Bolt dusted everyone so badly, he should have received Gold, Silver, and Bronze.
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    Aug 06, 2012 5:54 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you said
    surfswim saidSo you think a doper should get a life ban following a first incidence?


    absofreakinglutely! do you think a doper accidently stumbles into doping? just supposed he or she never gets caught and wins every single time they compete - what about the other competitors who competed clean with said person?

    once a cheat - always a cheat! gatlin is on ped



    So do the British Olympic Association but they were forced to drop lifetime bans by WADA, they said we were to strict over here.
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    Aug 06, 2012 6:12 PM GMT
    I like to watch some of the Olympic events, but I realize that the spirt of the games has long been compromised by professional athletes and those who would do anything to win. icon_cry.gif