Is it just that I don't like women?

  • Ashpenaz

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    Aug 10, 2012 5:21 PM GMT
    I sometimes wonder if I'm gay or if I'm a straight guy who just doesn't like women. I have a very negative opinion of women, and I know that's bad. I'm not trying to defend it.

    IMHO, women use men to build their own self-worth. They only have sex with men because it makes them feel better about themselves. They don't care about the actual man on top of them (or behind them)--what his interests are, what his dreams are--they only care about what he can provide for them.

    They don't care if they destroy his friendships, his career, his serenity, as long as he takes care of them. And if she gets pregnant, she's won the lottery--she's got a meal ticket for life.

    Women criticize men for everything masculine. They demean and nag them for having interests and friends outside the "relationship." They only want attention focused on their interests. His career is only a means for her to get money.

    Yes, I realize this is all horrible, but, honestly, it's what I see in every straight relationship. Straight guys emasculate themselves just so they can have access to that one little orifice and I don't get it. Beyond that one little area, what's the attraction?

    What are your perceptions of women? Am I really that skewed? Are women really better to fall in love with than men?
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    Aug 10, 2012 7:44 PM GMT
    What do you mean that gay men get pregnant? Oh we're talking about women.
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    Aug 10, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
    Sir, all i can say is that if these are the women you see, then all you know is a lot of rude women who don't give a shit about men. there are a lot of good hearted women who do care about men, and the man that they love. I'm sorry that your view of women is as such, but yes, there are those slutty women who just use men, but there are the same with men (yes, gay men too). It is just a human thing. There are some good loving women just like there are some good loving men.
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    Aug 10, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
    I spent my first nine months trying to get out of a woman. It would be stupid to even try to get back in.
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:09 PM GMT
    Ashpenaz saidI sometimes wonder if I'm gay or if I'm a straight guy who just doesn't like women. I have a very negative opinion of women, and I know that's bad. I'm not trying to defend it.

    IMHO, women use men to build their own self-worth. They only have sex with men because it makes them feel better about themselves. They don't care about the actual man on top of them (or behind them)--what his interests are, what his dreams are--they only care about what he can provide for them.

    They don't care if they destroy his friendships, his career, his serenity, as long as he takes care of them. And if she gets pregnant, she's won the lottery--she's got a meal ticket for life.

    Women criticize men for everything masculine. They demean and nag them for having interests and friends outside the "relationship." They only want attention focused on their interests. His career is only a means for her to get money.

    Yes, I realize this is all horrible, but, honestly, it's what I see in every straight relationship. Straight guys emasculate themselves just so they can have access to that one little orifice and I don't get it. Beyond that one little area, what's the attraction?

    What are your perceptions of women? Am I really that skewed? Are women really better to fall in love with than men?
    wow, bitter much? I mean jeeze dude, you really have a skewed view of women. I mean to the point if I did not know any better I would think you were bitter and jaded. I mean do you have the same view about your mom?
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:09 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI spent my first nine months trying to get out of a woman.


    o_O

    Did you guys accidentally use industrial adhesive as lube?
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:11 PM GMT
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    IMHO, women use men to build their own self-worth. They only have sex with men because it makes them feel better about themselves. They don't care about the actual man on top of them (or behind them)--what his interests are, what his dreams are--they only care about what he can provide for them.

    They don't care if they destroy his friendships, his career, his serenity, as long as he takes care of them. And if she gets pregnant, she's won the lottery--she's got a meal ticket for life.

    Women criticize men for everything masculine. They demean and nag them for having interests and friends outside the "relationship." They only want attention focused on their interests. His career is only a means for her to get money"

    You just described my ex...a guy...!!
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:11 PM GMT
    I happen to agree with the OP on some level. Not all women are like that.

    For instance, my sisters are both exactly how the OP describes and are total and complete cunts - I had to call one of them that this morning to get her off my back.

    My best friend however really isn't. She's insanely independent though jaded since her baby daddy got deported (And he wasn't around anyway) and it's just been tough so she understands that it's a two way street.
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:13 PM GMT
    You are not straight. I mean LOOK at you.

    No straight man asks "Do I just not like women?"

    Whatever you are, it ain't straight.

    What you are is a sexist moron. I mean LOOK at what you wrote.

    Were you anywhere in my vicinity I'd punch you in your neck for even insinuating my mother and sister harbor such behavior and intentions.

    Then I'd smack you with the back of my hand for being a fucking bitch.

    God bless you and I hope find what you need.
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
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    paulflexes saidI spent my first nine months trying to get out of a woman.


    o_O

    Did you guys accidentally use industrial adhesive as lube?
    Duct tape.
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:22 PM GMT
    Ashpenaz saidI sometimes wonder if I'm gay or if I'm a straight guy who just doesn't like women. I have a very negative opinion of women, and I know that's bad. I'm not trying to defend it.

    IMHO, women use men to build their own self-worth. They only have sex with men because it makes them feel better about themselves. They don't care about the actual man on top of them (or behind them)--what his interests are, what his dreams are--they only care about what he can provide for them.

    They don't care if they destroy his friendships, his career, his serenity, as long as he takes care of them. And if she gets pregnant, she's won the lottery--she's got a meal ticket for life.

    Women criticize men for everything masculine. They demean and nag them for having interests and friends outside the "relationship." They only want attention focused on their interests. His career is only a means for her to get money.

    Yes, I realize this is all horrible, but, honestly, it's what I see in every straight relationship. Straight guys emasculate themselves just so they can have access to that one little orifice and I don't get it. Beyond that one little area, what's the attraction?

    What are your perceptions of women? Am I really that skewed? Are women really better to fall in love with than men?


    Nothing you've said here is a question of sexual orientation.
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:25 PM GMT
    WTF did your mother do to you?
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:29 PM GMT
    Anocxu said"
    IMHO, women use men to build their own self-worth. They only have sex with men because it makes them feel better about themselves. They don't care about the actual man on top of them (or behind them)--what his interests are, what his dreams are--they only care about what he can provide for them.

    They don't care if they destroy his friendships, his career, his serenity, as long as he takes care of them. And if she gets pregnant, she's won the lottery--she's got a meal ticket for life.

    Women criticize men for everything masculine. They demean and nag them for having interests and friends outside the "relationship." They only want attention focused on their interests. His career is only a means for her to get money"

    You just described my ex...a guy...!!

    ^^^^

    same my ex-ex lol....also a manicon_rolleyes.gif
  • Ashpenaz

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    Aug 10, 2012 8:30 PM GMT
    I realize I'm misogynist. I get that a lot. I'm not defending it.

    But I wonder if gay men can see women more objectively than straight men whose opinions are based on sexual desire. I mean, straights want desperately to believe women are good and healthy and I don't have to.

    All I see in my straight friends and their relationships is them being used, them being nagged, them being absorbed into a relationship with no escape. I honestly don't know what positive thing they are getting other than sex. Good conversation? Caring and compassion? All I see is trouble, bitchiness, dismissiveness, and unfaithfulness.

    When you look at straight relationships, do you see something different?

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    Aug 10, 2012 8:34 PM GMT
    Ashpenaz saidI realize I'm misogynist. I get that a lot. I'm not defending it.

    But I wonder if gay men can see women more objectively than straight men whose opinions are based on sexual desire. I mean, straights want desperately to believe women are good and healthy and I don't have to.

    All I see in my straight friends and their relationships is them being used, them being nagged, them being absorbed into a relationship with no escape. I honestly don't know what positive thing they are getting other than sex. Good conversation? Caring and compassion? All I see is trouble, bitchiness, dismissiveness, and unfaithfulness.

    When you look at straight relationships, do you see something different?



    Obviously, not all "straight" relationships are like that. I put the straight in quotes because ANY relationship can be like that (minus the sex in cases of relationships with friends).

    Your friends seem to be making poor choices in mates. I see good and bad relationships and it's NOT just women...men are like this as well icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:35 PM GMT
    Ashpenaz saidI realize I'm misogynist. I get that a lot. I'm not defending it.

    But I wonder if gay men can see women more objectively than straight men whose opinions are based on sexual desire. I mean, straights want desperately to believe women are good and healthy and I don't have to.

    All I see in my straight friends and their relationships is them being used, them being nagged, them being absorbed into a relationship with no escape. I honestly don't know what positive thing they are getting other than sex. Good conversation? Caring and compassion? All I see is trouble, bitchiness, dismissiveness, and unfaithfulness.

    When you look at straight relationships, do you see something different?



    As my mother used to say, birds of a feather flock together. Maybe your friends are similar to yourself in which case that would explain why their wives nag them and generally treat them badly. And I say that with all due respect. Your opinions of women are terrible.

    In my experience straight men are disgusting to women. I'm not even sure where you get such a twisted experience from.
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
    When you want to go out with a straight friend, does he have to get "permission" from his girlfriend first? Can he only do things she approves of? Can he only stay out as late as she lets him?

    When you go out with a straight friend and his girlfriend together, does she spend a lot of time putting him down, especially if he does something typically male? Make sure he pays her way? Edge herself between the two of you to make it clear he belongs to her? Try to get him away from you and back alone with her as soon as possible?

    That's what I see all the time.
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
    Ashpenaz saidWhen you want to go out with a straight friend, does he have to get "permission" from his girlfriend first? Can he only do things she approves of? Can he only stay out as late as she lets him?

    When you go out with a straight friend and his girlfriend together, does she spend a lot of time putting him down, especially if he does something typically male? Make sure he pays her way? Edge herself between the two of you to make it clear he belongs to her? Try to get him away from you and back alone with her as soon as possible?

    That's what I see all the time.


    Dude... that's YOUR FRIENDS ALLOWING THAT BEHAVIOR. No one can treat you in a certain manner unless you allow them. Yes, they sound emasculated. They sound like their entire lives are ruled by their wives/gf's whatever. BUT... they allowed it.

    Don't blame all women for obsessive and attention w*ore behavior that your friends chicks have because that is not the case for all women.
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    Aug 10, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
    Ashpenaz saidI sometimes wonder if I'm gay or if I'm a straight guy who just doesn't like women. I have a very negative opinion of women, and I know that's bad. I'm not trying to defend it.

    IMHO, women use men to build their own self-worth. They only have sex with men because it makes them feel better about themselves. They don't care about the actual man on top of them (or behind them)--what his interests are, what his dreams are--they only care about what he can provide for them.

    They don't care if they destroy his friendships, his career, his serenity, as long as he takes care of them. And if she gets pregnant, she's won the lottery--she's got a meal ticket for life.

    Women criticize men for everything masculine. They demean and nag them for having interests and friends outside the "relationship." They only want attention focused on their interests. His career is only a means for her to get money.

    Yes, I realize this is all horrible, but, honestly, it's what I see in every straight relationship. Straight guys emasculate themselves just so they can have access to that one little orifice and I don't get it. Beyond that one little area, what's the attraction?

    What are your perceptions of women? Am I really that skewed? Are women really better to fall in love with than men?
    Dude....Many gays use men to enhance their own self worth..A lot of gay men want to be taken care of..Some gays can be hateful pricks..It's not the sex... it's the individual....When a person state's that they "hate " something...It's because they possess those very attributes they dislike in others...My 2 bits
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    Aug 10, 2012 9:52 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI spent my first nine months trying to get out of a woman. It would be stupid to even try to get back in.


    HAHAHAHAHAAAaA!
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    Aug 10, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    uoft23 saidWTF did your mother do to you?
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    Aug 10, 2012 10:04 PM GMT
    Interesting.... zee subject lays claim to a hatred of women yet is clearly a latent homosexual with a deep bitter jealously of said women.

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    Aug 10, 2012 10:06 PM GMT
    Some of my best friends are women, and not one of them obese fat. Just because I am a Bona Fide Homosexual, does not = misogyny. Just just find vaginas repugnant, and can not ever comprehend how another male ever willing played in one of those dripping mucous membrane.

    But I also see many qualities in women that I also see in spiteful vindictive queens too, will hold a grudge over the smallest of thing and not let go.
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    Aug 10, 2012 10:11 PM GMT
    LIEV saidYou are not straight. I mean LOOK at you.

    No straight man asks "Do I just not like women?"

    Whatever you are, it ain't straight.

    What you are is a sexist moron. I mean LOOK at what you wrote.

    Were you anywhere in my vicinity I'd punch you in your neck for even insinuating my mother and sister harbor such behavior and intentions.

    Then I'd smack you with the back of my hand for being a fucking bitch.

    God bless you and I hope find what you need.


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    Aug 10, 2012 10:33 PM GMT
    Ashpenaz saidI sometimes wonder if I'm gay or if I'm a straight guy who just doesn't like women. I have a very negative opinion of women, and I know that's bad. I'm not trying to defend it.

    IMHO, women use men to build their own self-worth. They only have sex with men because it makes them feel better about themselves. They don't care about the actual man on top of them (or behind them)--what his interests are, what his dreams are--they only care about what he can provide for them.

    They don't care if they destroy his friendships, his career, his serenity, as long as he takes care of them. And if she gets pregnant, she's won the lottery--she's got a meal ticket for life.

    Women criticize men for everything masculine. They demean and nag them for having interests and friends outside the "relationship." They only want attention focused on their interests. His career is only a means for her to get money.

    Yes, I realize this is all horrible, but, honestly, it's what I see in every straight relationship. Straight guys emasculate themselves just so they can have access to that one little orifice and I don't get it. Beyond that one little area, what's the attraction?

    What are your perceptions of women? Am I really that skewed? Are women really better to fall in love with than men?


    Not all women are like this. I do feel that your views are quite skewed and based on dated stereotypes. There are lots of stereotypes that we ALL have and its extremely important to understand not only where the stereotypes come from, but why we've bought into them, and how that affects our interactions with people of X group that we stereotype. Examine these relationships closely and you will gain a ton of knowledge into yourself and how you interact with others.