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The great gains I've made over the past few years are gone

I eat a LOT of fresh veggies, lean meats, etc, which means I'm not getting a lot of fat in my diet any more (which I need because my metabolism is on over-drive). Any suggestions guys? I've tried stuffing myself, and that works from time to time, but not on an every day/every meal type of basis.

Laddy1962 saidThe great gains I've made over the past few years are gone

I eat a LOT of fresh veggies, lean meats, etc, which means I'm not getting a lot of fat in my diet any more (which I need because my metabolism is on over-drive). Any suggestions guys? I've tried stuffing myself, and that works from time to time, but not on an every day/every meal type of basis.

Not getting fat? Whaaat?

Avocados, almonds/nuts, olive oil - so many sources of great fats that don't come from things with gluten.

Add more good fats: Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Virgin Coconut Oil, Grass fed butter
Or you can add more starches, especially post workout: Sweet potatoes, rice, veggies

For bulking, Robb Wolf highly recommends dairy. In addition to having some great benefits by itself, the sheer amount of caloric intake one can consume in liquid form is very useful for bulking - if that's what you're talking about by gains.

I've recently started a paleo (gluten free) diet as well. Eat plenty of meat, GREEN vegetables, stay away from corn and peas. If you have a World Foods or central market close by I suggest shopping there, a lot of paleo friendly foods.

Unfortunately, a paleo diet is not intended for bulking. It's recommended that you stay away from dairy products, almond milk is something that has been suggested, but I'm not a fan of it. Stay away from Silk and Soy milk, estrogen!

It comes with the territory. I've done the whole no grains no corn no rice no starch thing. Yes, I had more muscular definition, less fat, but I was a waif and twiggy.

Nowadays I eat bread and pasta 24/7. I'm not as lean, but have gained good muscular bulk from my weight training and people all around agree it looks much better on me than how I looked when I starved myself on just meat and greens.

it depends on the person... even without wheat in my diet I still have a fairly high BF%. with wheat it can easily skyrocket. maybe paleo just isn't for you

Ariodante saidIt comes with the territory. I've done the whole no grains no corn no rice no starch thing. Yes, I had more muscular definition, less fat, but I was waif and twiggy.

Nowadays I eat bread and pasta 24/7. I'm not as lean, but have gained good muscular bulk from my weight training and people all around agree it looks much better on me than how I looked when I starved myself on just meat and greens.

I bet you still had a handsome face though. I think your face/faceshape is one of those faces that still look good whether you put weight on or off, which is an awesome thing to have.

This gluten free diet sounds good in helping you get slim first before bulking up so I might research some more and give it a go.

I buy almond butter, almonds, olive oil, fish capsules, vegan based spreads that look and taste like butter.

I've had to recently be more cognizant of my fat intake cuz I was not getting enough after I went vegetarian.

I can easily get the eight-five grams of healthy fats daily with what I typed above.

eat butter... it's a carb

calibro saideat butter... it's a carb

on muffins mmmm

Laddy1962 saidThe great gains I've made over the past few years are gone

I eat a LOT of fresh veggies, lean meats, etc, which means I'm not getting a lot of fat in my diet any more (which I need because my metabolism is on over-drive). Any suggestions guys? I've tried stuffing myself, and that works from time to time, but not on an every day/every meal type of basis.

Nuts, seeds, avacados, eggs, fish oil. All good ways to get healthy (lower) carbs and fats. Plus, they all taste really good.

homastj saidit depends on the person... even without wheat in my diet I still have a fairly high BF%. with wheat it can easily skyrocket. maybe paleo just isn't for you

Fairly high BF% in comparison to who? A skeleton? Seriously, if your BF% is "fairly high" then I must be in the "totally fucked" range.

For most people, there is nothing wrong with gluten. The only people who benefit from avoiding gluten are the very few people who are sensitive to it. For the rest of us, avoiding gluten may be a bad idea because it would require us to avoiding beneficial foods or to find gluten-free substitutes which may be inferior.

However, the placebo effect of avoiding gluten should perhaps be considered.

redsoxfan791 said

homastj saidit depends on the person... even without wheat in my diet I still have a fairly high BF%. with wheat it can easily skyrocket. maybe paleo just isn't for you

Fairly high BF% in comparison to who? A skeleton? Seriously, if your BF% is "fairly high" then I must be in the "totally fucked" range.

compared to the BF other people who stick to paleo achieve?

seventyfour said

Stay away from Silk and Soy milk, estrogen!

I thought Silk was phytoestrogen-free

seventyfour saidI've recently started a paleo (gluten free) diet as well. Eat plenty of meat, GREEN vegetables, stay away from corn and peas. If you have a World Foods or central market close by I suggest shopping there, a lot of paleo friendly foods.

Unfortunately, a paleo diet is not intended for bulking. It's recommended that you stay away from dairy products, almond milk is something that has been suggested, but I'm not a fan of it. Stay away from Silk and Soy milk, estrogen!

I drink a lot of Silk Soy Milk and it doesn't seem to be hurting me.

homastj said

redsoxfan791 said

homastj saidit depends on the person... even without wheat in my diet I still have a fairly high BF%. with wheat it can easily skyrocket. maybe paleo just isn't for you

Fairly high BF% in comparison to who? A skeleton? Seriously, if your BF% is "fairly high" then I must be in the "totally fucked" range.

compared to the BF other people who stick to paleo achieve?

While that's a fair statement, it's not a good idea to compare yourself to the elite level of anything. Your body fat is very low in comparison to the general population, and that's a good thing. I think you need to adjust your expectations. If you think your BF% is "fairly high," then I think you need to take a visit to your local Walmart to see what "fairly high" body fat really looks like. Trust me. You're not even remotely close to that.

I do eat a fair amount of eggs, nuts and olive oil in addition to the veggies and lean meats, but I've had to remove all the "extras" (gluten is in freakin' EVERYTHING lol). I also find that I feel full so much longer, so sometimes it doesn't even occur to me that it's been a couple of hours and I should probably eat something.

Laddy1962 saidI do eat a fair amount of eggs, nuts and olive oil in addition to the veggies and lean meats, but I've had to remove all the "extras" (gluten is in freakin' EVERYTHING lol). I also find that I feel full so much longer, so sometimes it doesn't even occur to me that it's been a couple of hours and I should probably eat something.

Well then you SHOULDN¨T eat anything. The bloated BB look is profoundly unnatural for most people and if you have to eat every 3 hours to maintain it perhaps that´s your body saying "No thanks"

Laddy1962 saidThe great gains I've made over the past few years are gone

I eat a LOT of fresh veggies, lean meats, etc, which means I'm not getting a lot of fat in my diet any more (which I need because my metabolism is on over-drive). Any suggestions guys? I've tried stuffing myself, and that works from time to time, but not on an every day/every meal type of basis.

I've found the same thing. When I tried to go Paleo, I was lean as f*ck. Then I started reading bodybuilding articles and forums and found out that to get "big" you need a lot of carbs, even empty carbs, especially post-workout. I a weirdo who just don't like starchy foods that much but I'll try and eat more fruit and I'll carb load once in awhile just to make sure I'm getting the carbs I need to build mass.

homastj saidit depends on the person... even without wheat in my diet I still have a fairly high BF%. with wheat it can easily skyrocket. maybe paleo just isn't for you

I´m the same... and you look about the same % as me...

eat potatoes and corn like nobody's business haha

Trail mix and yams are a godsend to those looking for healthy calories on a gluten-free diet. Yams are great because even the most clumsy cook can wrap one in aluminum foil and heat it up for 45 mins to an hour. And you can make a bunch at a time, if you're super-lazy, to put in the fridge and microwave at work.

Trail mix is super, super easy. And has those healthy fats you're looking for. For me, I can run through a bag of trail mix in no time, and that's 840 calories (mine has only seeds, since I'm sensitive to nuts - let the jokes begin).

Last, but not least, is rice milk. Drinking a few glasses of that a day will give you an extra 720 calories.

I also find I can't put on weight unless I have adequate protein intake. Sounds like you're good on that front, but just make sure you actually add up everything you eat in a spreadsheet because sometimes we think we're eating a lot and we're actually not.

dancedancekj saidAdd more good fats: Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Virgin Coconut Oil, Grass fed butter
Or you can add more starches, especially post workout: Sweet potatoes, rice, veggies

For bulking, Robb Wolf highly recommends dairy. In addition to having some great benefits by itself, the sheer amount of caloric intake one can consume in liquid form is very useful for bulking - if that's what you're talking about by gains.

I may have to start eating gluten free to help control my seizures.