Aug 12, 2012 12:26 AM GMT
I heard this. Is it true? If so, why?
Forgot to say it is for low T and andropause.
Forgot to say it is for low T and andropause.
uombroca saidThe other factor is that your doctor should also prescribe Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) hormone, if you are under Testosterone treatment. It needs to be injected as well.
HCG will trick your pituitary gland not to slow down and release Luteinizing Hormone (LH) which signal the testes to produce testosterone (balls) to shut down,and then your balls start shrinking. Some body builders do not do this step and this is why you hear of their balls shrinking.
Gym_bull said1)Your cells get used to the amount they receive so they will require a higher amount to absorb the same dose.
2) a signal will be sent to the brain to produce less testosterone and your body will produce less.
Unless the person is producing low amounts of testosterone in which the body might start to produce more testosterone when they get off the testosterone booster. Depends on the person, their diet, age, and exercise.
bigsky saidDude, have you considered making an appointment with a quality urologist and like, maybe....asking him or her these questions? Medical advice on Real Jock is sort of like.....a joke. Already there is a lot of crap information on this thread. I actually go to a urology department at a incredibly highly regarded university hospital, and am actually being treated. Some of the information on here is completely bogus.
Here is the worst: taking Testim (for example) encourages your gonads to produce MORE testosterone. Huh...really? It absolutely does not do that. Also any time someone refers to "your biochemistry" you know its bad information. That is akin to speaking about "the entire engine" when you are really speaking about one specific fuel injector. Any time someone paints anything medical in broad strokes, hit the trial. Because everything is very very specific.
(If this need for information is for you.....) Do you even know your own test number? and if so, what is it? But if you just want to have a discussion, then go to the Mayo Clinic data base. Personally I can't look anymore because circus clowns scare me.
timct saidThis is the problem, first finding a doctor who doesn't wash off the whole issue as unimportant, due to his ignorance and attitude, even when the numbers and symptoms are in front of him.
The other big problem is I only have Medicare and Medicaid (Medicaid is only for in-state). Most specialists, endos and urologists, don't take Medicare unless sometimes working at a University or, not good doctors. I don't have the money. So I am still looking and hoping I will find a knowledgeable doctor who knows what this is all about and can safely help me.
This is now two to three years looking, waiting for my doctor to find someone, looking on the web, asking...nobody takes Medicare. I've been to an endocrinologist who agreed to take Medicare and was an idiot, and now to another endocrinologist at a large university who....ugh, long story. They aren't getting it. I will keep looking.
The doctors that sound like the really get it and are the most up to date, safe, and scientifically thorough in from testing, diagnosis to treatment, are those into what is called anti-aging science. They cost thousands of dollars a years. Must be some doctor somewhere! I hope. I live in Hartford CT area, and can travel a little for a good doctor who knows about this.
Thanks for your posts, and please post more if you wish.
I am looking for a urologist now that I tried the endocrinologists. Not finding any yet who I could pay for.
timct saidBigsky, thanks for posting. That's just what I am looking for...a truly qualified and knowlegeable doctor.
That's the problem, Vaughn, I'm unnecessarily suffering (and many men are but don't know it...but I researched this once I found out I had low T) because of money. It is also really because of the ignorance and I think the taboo of this issue (men and hormonal health, particularly low T and andropause) among doctors. A lot of them are going through it themselves and a form or another of denial. The scientific info is around, and I don't know if or when the medical profession will get around to actually learning it and teaching it so all endocrinologists/urologists, even PCP's know what to do.
Thank you, uombroca, for your support. That is all I know I can do is just keep looking. It's like a looking for a needle in haystack but it is all I can do, while I see my condition worsening. Not trying to show how pitiful this is. It shows how stupid and criminal it is, particularly as a lot of me are going through similar or related situations and have no idea.
To be most practical, I am hoping someone living near me might know of someone....not someone who throws a packet of Androgel at me and leaves it at that like most doctors, if they bother. I'm talking of doctors who know what Vaughn explained, and also uombroca, if not others. This is why I cannot do it on my own, it requires doctor who "gets it" and all the details. I believe most men treated for low T are not getting the right help or safe help, from what I read, and from a lecture/seminar I attended by one of the doctors who does know but is totally unafforadable.
LAGuy1979 saidJust do what guys on steroids do for post cycle therapy. Take a natural testosterone booster which you can find at most supplement websites such as www.bodybuilding.com and take a SERM such as liquid Tamox aka Nolvadex: http://www.ar-r.com/tamox-50ml-20mg-ml.html
For the Tamox: Take 60 mg per day for 7 days, then 40 mg per day for 7 days and then 20 mg per day for 14 days. Mix it with a couple of cups of water and slam it. It tastes like mouthwash. Your balls will grow back if they have shrunk and so will your sex drive.