McCain says: "... in the 21st century, nations don't invade other nations."

  • EricLA

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    Aug 14, 2008 12:40 AM GMT
    Uhhh, John...? Do the words Iraq or Afghanistan mean anything to you?

    The guy cracks me up. When is the mainstream media going to start holding him accountable for his many misstatements:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/13/mccain-in-the-21st-centur_n_118759.html
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    Aug 14, 2008 1:29 AM GMT
    ... except the USA, which can invade anything it wants in the defense of freedom! icon_biggrin.gif

    *sigh*

    I wish the European Union would spread and engulf every nation in the world.
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    Aug 14, 2008 1:46 AM GMT
    Ahem! I dont think there is much room for debating the invasion of Afghanistan.
  • GQjock

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    Aug 14, 2008 10:45 AM GMT
    The hypocrisy is so thick it makes you want to vomit
    Grampy and Bush have the audacity to get in front of crowds and say things like this
    and actually TELL other people like China and Russia that invading other countries is a BAD thing
    Do YA SEE the Irony there? icon_confused.gif
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    Aug 24, 2008 12:03 AM GMT
    There's no irony, President Bush negotiated with Saddam Hussein for a year and a half. He didn't just jump in like the Soviets did, and Afghanistan deserved a good invasion.

    Speaking of Afghanistan, did you read recently that the Taliban were planning to give Osama bin Laden up, until Clinton threw a bunch of cruise missiles at them in an impotent show of force to distract us from Monica?

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    Aug 24, 2008 12:16 AM GMT
    Yeah, McCain's not quite all there....

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    Aug 24, 2008 12:18 AM GMT
    John43620 saidSpeaking of Afghanistan, did you read recently that the Taliban were planning to give Osama bin Laden up, until Clinton threw a bunch of cruise missiles at them in an impotent show of force to distract us from Monica?

    Haven't seen that. Source?
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    Aug 24, 2008 12:18 AM GMT
    1969er saidYeah, McCain's not quite all there....



    well said 1969er
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    Aug 24, 2008 5:48 AM GMT
    Well here ya go. Do you consider CNN an acceptable source?

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/19/taliban.documents/index.html?section=cnn_latest

    Clinton was a disaster for this country.
  • vindog

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    Aug 24, 2008 9:20 PM GMT
    wow, so now you believe the Taliban? I thought your stance was that they are fundamentalist terrorist liars?

    Doesn't the US have a stance of not negotiating with terrorists?

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    Aug 24, 2008 9:38 PM GMT
    clinton was a disaster?

    funny... i don't remember it that way... what i do remember is that even when clinton was in the height of his problems with monica that he still had over 60% approval ratings. when's the last time w saw that?
  • drakutis

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    Aug 24, 2008 9:51 PM GMT
    GobB said
    1969er saidYeah, McCain's not quite all there....



    well said 1969er



    And who says that FLIP FLOPS are for feet only?
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    Aug 24, 2008 9:54 PM GMT
    drakutis said


    And who says that FLIP FLOPS are for feet only?


    It's for gay sex too? icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 24, 2008 10:06 PM GMT
    John43620 saidWell here ya go. Do you consider CNN an acceptable source?

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/19/taliban.documents/index.html?section=cnn_latest

    Clinton was a disaster for this country.


    Last section:
    Bin Laden 'most important'

    The documents indicate that bin Laden was clearly Washington's priority with the Taliban in 1998 -- rather than reported human rights violations by their Afghan government.

    "The continued presence in Afghanistan of bin Laden and his network is by far the most important," said a State Department cable sent on October 19, 1998.

    The State Department has issued a $25 million reward for bin Laden and $10 million for Mullah Omar.

    In October of 2001 a U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan toppled the Taliban regime.


    Soooo...the State Department in the Clinton administration was paying high attention to the upcoming threat, which the new Bush administration summarily dismissed as a strategic threat, as we now know.
  • SkyMiles

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    Aug 24, 2008 10:42 PM GMT
    drakutis said
    GobB said
    1969er saidYeah, McCain's not quite all there....



    well said 1969er



    And who says that FLIP FLOPS are for feet only?


    Holy shiz. If it wasn't right there on video, you'd swear people were making it up icon_sad.gif
  • GQjock

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    Aug 24, 2008 10:48 PM GMT
    John.... I know this is Hard for you

    But 1969er is absolutely right....
    Clinton had a counter terrorism task force IN PLACE when Bush came into office

    Bush and his ENTIRE cabinet were TOLD in no uncertain terms
    Osama Bin Laden needs to be your highest priority

    You know how many times that task force met after Bush took office??

    Guess..... Once? Twice? Like mebbe a half dozen times???

    Nope... A big fat ZERO
    George W Bush was so emphatic about doing everything that Clinton didn't he never convened a Counter terrorism task force
    So when the FBI was turning up guys that were flying planes just to take off and not land
    THERE WAS NOBODY LISTENING!!!!!!
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    Aug 25, 2008 1:06 PM GMT
    In his book "Dereliction of Duty", Robert Patterson (The Airforce Officer carrying the Nuclear Football) recalls how an assassin had Osama bin Laden in his sights but needed President Clinton to give the order personally over the phone. Clinton wasted time and the opportunity passed. Clinton was the only American president to have this sort of opportunity and he personally blew it.



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    Aug 25, 2008 1:19 PM GMT
    Whatever the answer to Clinton's behavior and motives for it, the question is very much like this one - when nobody else could fly immediately after 9/11, why were the Bin Laden family and other Saudi Arabians flown on planes sanctioned by the Shrub administration to various gathering points and then flown out of the U.S.? I think my question is more pertinent than a question about the former president as Bushwack is still in control of the dice.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 25, 2008 3:35 PM GMT
    John43620 said

    Clinton was a disaster for this country.



    And to think we actually have someone who had the guts to put that in print after the last 8 years. I find it truly amazing.
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    Aug 25, 2008 3:40 PM GMT
    FAIL
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    Aug 25, 2008 3:40 PM GMT
    SAHEM62896 saidFAIL


    LOL
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    Aug 25, 2008 3:49 PM GMT
    I'm SO voting for libertarian icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Squarejaw

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    Aug 25, 2008 3:50 PM GMT
    Sedative saidI wish the European Union would spread and engulf every nation in the world.
    Yes, because the 20th century showed how responsibly European nations when they hold great power.
  • Squarejaw

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    Aug 25, 2008 3:51 PM GMT
    John43620 said...an assassin had Osama bin Laden in his sights...Clinton was the only American president to have this sort of opportunity...
    So then you admit Clinton got further than Bush?
  • Squarejaw

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    Aug 25, 2008 3:54 PM GMT
    John43620 saidThere's no irony, President Bush negotiated with Saddam Hussein for a year and a half. He didn't just jump in like the Soviets did, and Afghanistan deserved a good invasion.
    But, um...that still doesn't change the fact that McCain's remark is a bizarre untruth.