Is beauty really the worlds curse?

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    Aug 13, 2012 4:13 PM GMT
    If you have ever watched Nip/Tuck then you know where I got that quote from. There is a psychopath on the show labeled the carver that cuts beautiful peoples faces up while telling them their beauty is a curse on the world. So it got me thinking, even tho this guy is a psycho, do you think the statement he tells his victims has any truth to it? Dose money have a close runner up to being the root of all evil?icon_twisted.gif

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    Aug 13, 2012 4:16 PM GMT
    Beauty is not the a curse, neither is money. Envy and greed are curses.
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    Aug 13, 2012 4:25 PM GMT
    It is when you don't have it
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    Aug 13, 2012 5:14 PM GMT
    Beauty is a basic thing in the universe. If you think about, the creation of universe itself is amazingly beautiful, and pretty much everything in nature is beautiful. Look at the flowers, the clouds, the rainbows, the stars, etc. Another words, the universe is always assembling itself to present beauty in multiple ways, through multiple means.

    Therefore, beauty is also present in the biological world. It is perfectly natural for organisms to pursue a visually pleasing bodily form. You see this in the animal and plant kingdoms. The billions of years of evolution is a presentation of on-going beauty. So every animal, every flower petal, every rock, clouds, rainbow, etc. that you see in nature, is beautiful.

    We humans are also beautiful, of course. Our pursue of beauty is not that much different from what other species in the animal kingdom. It really doesn't matter whether it's surgically enhanced or au naturale, people desire to have a physically attractive face / body, regardless of gender. However, in the process of the pursue of beauty, the majority of people pay too much attention to the outer beauty (because it is the first thing that people see and judge), which led to the neglect of the inner beauty (development of character, emotional stability, healthy view of self). And it is the lack of attention to the inner beauty which has led to what you called "the curse of the world". People are just paying too much attention to the immediate and superficial aspects of beauty, but not the more inner, long-lasting beauty of the character.

    Think about it, when we are young, like in our teenage and early twenties, most people are very physically attractive. But why do some people age well and gracefully, while some start to lose it after their 40s? And to prevent the lost of beauty and youth, people start to go through many painful processes. Crazy diets, grueling exercises, painful surgeries, taking fat burners which jeopardize their health, spending tons and tons of money.....all to preserve this beauty.

    Through my experiences as an educator and clinician in psych, I've seen people go from really beautiful and vibrant to gullem-like states in matter of days, and there are people who turned themselves around and became very attractive in a short period of time as well. So the important thing is not just physical beauty, but the vibrant nature that is within us. The life-force, the chi, the Prana, if you will. This is the power that has the ability to change physical attractiveness. This is the power that can change the world, even.

    With all that said, I strongly feel that the most important thing is to have a view in which that your mental state and physical state are proportionally balanced. If a person does not have a healthy mental perspective on what beauty should be (inner and outer) then he would have a very difficult time accepting his own physical shortcomings and will always be jealous of other people's beauty. So my suggestion to people pursuing "beauty": 1) Focus both on inner and outer beauty at the same time. 2) Enrich yourself as much as possible. 3) Address the mental and emotional insecurities that you have about yourself. 4) Find that peace within. Then you're on the road to the most beautiful version of you, both inside and out.

    Hope we become all-beautiful!! Not just "half-beautiful".



    (whew that took out a good part of my lunch break) haha
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    Aug 13, 2012 5:26 PM GMT
    Well said ^
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    Aug 13, 2012 5:53 PM GMT
    CityRiver saidBeauty is a basic thing in the universe. If you think about, the creation of universe itself is amazingly beautiful, and pretty much everything in nature is beautiful. Look at the flowers, the clouds, the rainbows, the stars, etc. Another words, the universe is always assembling itself to present beauty in multiple ways, through multiple means.

    Therefore, beauty is also present in the biological world. It is perfectly natural for organisms to pursue a visually pleasing bodily form. You see this in the animal and plant kingdoms. The billions of years of evolution is a presentation of on-going beauty. So every animal, every flower petal, every rock, clouds, rainbow, etc. that you see in nature, is beautiful.

    We humans are also beautiful, of course. Our pursue of beauty is not that much different from what other species in the animal kingdom. It really doesn't matter whether it's surgically enhanced or au naturale, people desire to have a physically attractive face / body, regardless of gender. However, in the process of the pursue of beauty, the majority of people pay too much attention to the outer beauty (because it is the first thing that people see and judge), which led to the neglect of the inner beauty (development of character, emotional stability, healthy view of self). And it is the lack of attention to the inner beauty which has led to what you called "the curse of the world". People are just paying too much attention to the immediate and superficial aspects of beauty, but not the more inner, long-lasting beauty of the character.

    Think about it, when we are young, like in our teenage and early twenties, most people are very physically attractive. But why do some people age well and gracefully, while some start to lose it after their 40s? And to prevent the lost of beauty and youth, people start to go through many painful processes. Crazy diets, grueling exercises, painful surgeries, taking fat burners which jeopardize their health, spending tons and tons of money.....all to preserve this beauty.

    Through my experiences as an educator and clinician in psych, I've seen people go from really beautiful and vibrant to gullem-like states in matter of days, and there are people who turned themselves around and became very attractive in a short period of time as well. So the important thing is not just physical beauty, but the vibrant nature that is within us. The life-force, the chi, the Prana, if you will. This is the power that has the ability to change physical attractiveness. This is the power that can change the world, even.

    With all that said, I strongly feel that the most important thing is to have a view in which that your mental state and physical state are proportionally balanced. If a person does not have a healthy mental perspective on what beauty should be (inner and outer) then he would have a very difficult time accepting his own physical shortcomings and will always be jealous of other people's beauty. So my suggestion to people pursuing "beauty": 1) Focus both on inner and outer beauty at the same time. 2) Enrich yourself as much as possible. 3) Address the mental and emotional insecurities that you have about yourself. 4) Find that peace within. Then you're on the road to the most beautiful version of you, both inside and out.

    Hope we become all-beautiful!! Not just "half-beautiful".




    (whew that took out a good part of my lunch break) haha


    I almost feel like there is no need for anyone else to respond lol... but im sure someone will have another perspective. Thanks for your response and sorry about the lunch break lol
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    Aug 13, 2012 6:18 PM GMT
    I like deep thinking questions so it was well worth it! icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 13, 2012 6:51 PM GMT
    Nice post cityR.

    Just for reference (warning: graphic)...

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    Aug 13, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    Trollileo saidBut I like being beautiful.

    'trollileos house of beauty' - what secrets do you behold?
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    Aug 13, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
    Adonis_001 saidIf you have ever watched Nip/Tuck then you know where I got that quote from. There is a psychopath on the show labeled the carver that cuts beautiful peoples faces up while telling them their beauty is a curse on the world. So it got me thinking, even tho this guy is a psycho, do you think the statement he tells his victims has any truth to it? Dose money have a close runner up to being the root of all evil?icon_twisted.gif

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    Aug 14, 2012 12:06 AM GMT
    As Liz the lesbian anesthesiologist opines, beauty is a commodity.
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    Aug 14, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
    Being beautiful is not a curse. Getting cut up by some psycho with a knife, is.
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    Aug 14, 2012 12:09 AM GMT
    no, apostrophes are
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    Aug 14, 2012 12:24 AM GMT
    a couple people answered but didn't elaborate on why they felt that the way they do
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    Aug 14, 2012 1:09 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidIt is when you don't have it
    amend to" it is, when you feel you don't have it.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (whatever a beholder actually is). One man's troll is another's hot stuff. Sorry this is deep enough for tonight.
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    Aug 14, 2012 1:25 AM GMT
    Beauty isn't a curse. Envy is. Most who behold beauty will be affected positively, maybe even inspired or moved to emulate that beauty in some form. Envy, by contrast, will almost always have a deteriating, poisoning affect. It withers, demotivates, warps perception, consumes even, blinding one from their own beauty in a quest to dart out the beauty of others. Envy is the curse.
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    Aug 14, 2012 1:39 AM GMT
    CityRiver saidBeauty is a basic thing in the universe. If you think about, the creation of universe itself is amazingly beautiful, and pretty much everything in nature is beautiful. Look at the flowers, the clouds, the rainbows, the stars, etc. Another words, the universe is always assembling itself to present beauty in multiple ways, through multiple means.

    Therefore, beauty is also present in the biological world.....

    And it is the lack of attention to the inner beauty which has led to what you called "the curse of the world". People are just paying too much attention to the immediate and superficial aspects of beauty, but not the more inner, long-lasting beauty of the character.


    Through my experiences as an educator and clinician in psych, I've seen people go from really beautiful and vibrant to gullem-like states in matter of days, and there are people who turned themselves around and became very attractive in a short period of time as well. So the important thing is not just physical beauty, but the vibrant nature that is within us. The life-force, the chi, the Prana, if you will. This is the power that has the ability to change physical attractiveness. This is the power that can change the world, even.

    With all that said, I strongly feel that the most important thing is to have a view in which that your mental state and physical state are proportionally balanced. If a person does not have a healthy mental perspective on what beauty should be (inner and outer) then he would have a very difficult time accepting his own physical shortcomings and will always be jealous of other people's beauty. So my suggestion to people pursuing "beauty": 1) Focus both on inner and outer beauty at the same time. 2) Enrich yourself as much as possible. 3) Address the mental and emotional insecurities that you have about yourself. 4) Find that peace within. Then you're on the road to the most beautiful version of you, both inside and out.

    Hope we become all-beautiful!! Not just "half-beautiful".



    (whew that took out a good part of my lunch break) haha



    I found your post very beautiful.

    This is what I once wrote in 'A Ribbon of Beauty' about an example of inner beauty.

    "The man’s face changed expression immediately and a look of dismay swiftly ran across his features. He was suddenly reminded of loss. His heart picked up the scent, along with his nose, of the pervasive wholeness of Here, and it spoke to him. He looked around at those seated with him in the foul air. He thought of lunch, and thought again of many, right in his own country, that would never have a lunch, being just lucky enough to eat. He could taste the air’s metallic and egg-ish odour. He saw the table he sat at, he fingered the fabric of his napkin.

    Lives had made these things. What of those lives? The self-questioning appalled him. Still, he saw a nobler self, satisfying to his ego, for having these thoughts, and didn’t question why he thought now that it was better to be a little more than he would normally have considered himself.
    A door had opened in him. The possible becoming the probable awaited. He experienced introspection over the world around him. He thought of the food used as fuel for his car while being chauffeured to this party today. He wondered how many had died today from hunger.

    Slowly, he put up his hands and, elbows propped on the table before him, put his face in his palms.

    So then, Beauty did in fact reside in much more than its bizarre, abstract, visual, tactile, audible and other forms. It resided in the heart, in the way one feels things fitting together in a finite world, if any should pay attention. As well, it breathed in the knowledge most have of right and wrong, of true and false, that subliminal sense being an internal compass too often discredited. "


    very warmly,

    -Doug