Putin Thumbs Nose at Obama's Weaker America

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    Aug 15, 2012 1:56 AM GMT
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    A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine armed with long-range cruise missiles operated undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks and its travel in strategic U.S. waters was only confirmed after it left the region, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.

    The stealth underwater incursion in the Gulf took place at the same time Russian strategic bombers made incursions into restricted U.S. airspace near Alaska and California in June and July, and highlights a growing military assertiveness by Moscow.

    The submarine patrol also exposed what U.S. officials said were deficiencies in U.S. anti-submarine warfare capabilities—forces that are facing cuts under the Obama administration’s plan to reduce defense spending by $487 billion over the next 10 years.

    The fact that the Akula was not detected in the Gulf is cause for concern, U.S. officials said.

    The officials who are familiar with reports of the submarine patrol in the Gulf of Mexico said the vessel was a nuclear-powered Akula-class attack submarine, one of Russia’s quietest submarines.

    A Navy spokeswoman declined to comment.

    One official said the Akula operated without being detected for a month.

    “The Akula was built for one reason and one reason only: To kill U.S. Navy ballistic missile submarines and their crews,” said a second U.S. official.

    “It’s a very stealthy boat so it can sneak around and avoid detection and hope to get past any protective screen a boomer might have in place,” the official said, referring to the Navy nickname for strategic missile submarines.

    The U.S. Navy operates a strategic nuclear submarine base at Kings Bay, Georgia. The base is homeport to eight missile-firing submarines, six of them equipped with nuclear-tipped missiles, and two armed with conventional warhead missiles.

    “Sending a nuclear-propelled submarine into the Gulf of Mexico-Caribbean region is another manifestation of President Putin demonstrating that Russia is still a player on the world’s political-military stage,” said naval analyst and submarine warfare specialist Norman Polmar.

    “Like the recent deployment of a task force led by a nuclear cruiser into the Caribbean, the Russian Navy provides him with a means of ‘showing the flag’ that is not possible with Russian air and ground forces,” Polmar said in an email.

    The last time an Akula submarine was known to be close to U.S. shores was 2009, when two Akulas were spotted patrolling off the east coast of the United States.

    Those submarine patrols raised concerns at the time about a new Russian military assertiveness toward the United States, according to the New York Times, which first reported the 2009 Akula submarine activity.

    The latest submarine incursion in the Gulf further highlights the failure of the Obama administration’s “reset” policy of conciliatory actions designed to develop closer ties with Moscow.

    Instead of closer ties, Russia under President Vladimir Putin, an ex-KGB intelligence officer who has said he wants to restore elements of Russia’s Soviet communist past, has adopted growing hardline policies against the United States.

    Of the submarine activity, Sen. John Cornyn (R., Texas), member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said, “It’s a confounding situation arising from a lack of leadership in our dealings with Moscow. While the president is touting our supposed ‘reset’ in relations with Russia, Vladimir Putin is actively working against American interests, whether it’s in Syria or here in our own backyard.”

    The Navy is facing sharp cuts in forces needed to detect and counter such submarine activity.

    The Obama administration’s defense budget proposal in February cut $1.3 billion from Navy shipbuilding projects, which will result in scrapping plans to build 16 new warships through 2017.

    The budget also called for cutting plans to buy 10 advanced P-8 anti-submarine warfare jets needed for submarine detection.

    In June, Russian strategic nuclear bombers and support aircraft conducted a large-scale nuclear bomber exercise in the arctic. The exercise included simulated strikes on “enemy” strategic sites that defense officials say likely included notional attacks on U.S. missile defenses in Alaska.

    Under the terms of the 2010 New START arms accord, such exercises require 14-day advanced notice of strategic bomber drills, and notification after the drills end. No such notification was given.

    A second, alarming air incursion took place July 4 on the West Coast when a Bear H strategic bomber flew into U.S. airspace near California and was met by U.S. interceptor jets.

    That incursion was said to have been a bomber incursion that has not been seen since before the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

    It could not be learned whether the submarine in the Gulf of Mexico was an Akula 1 type submarine or a more advanced Akula 2.

    It is also not known why the submarine conducted the operation. Theories among U.S. analysts include the notion that submarine incursion was designed to further signal Russian displeasure at U.S. and NATO plans to deploy missile defenses in Europe.

    Russia’s chief of the general staff, Gen. Nikolai Makarov, said in May that Russian forces would consider preemptive attacks on U.S. and allied missile defenses in Europe, and claimed the defenses are destabilizing in a crisis.

    Makarov met with Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in July. Dempsey questioned him about the Russian strategic bomber flights near U.S. territory.

    The voyage of the submarine also could be part of Russian efforts to export the Akula.

    Russia delivered one of its Akula-2 submarines to India in 2009. The submarine is distinctive for its large tail fin.

    Brazil’s O Estado de Sao Paoli reported Aug. 2 that Russia plans to sell Venezuela up to 11 new submarines, including one Akula.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow’s military is working to set up naval replenishment facilities in Vietnam and Cuba, but denied there were plans to base naval forces in those states.

    Asked if Russia planned a naval base in Cuba, Lavrov said July 28: “We are not speaking of any bases. The Russian navy ships serve exercise cruises and training in the same regions. To harbor, resupply, and enable the crew to rest are absolutely natural needs. We have spoken of such opportunities with our Cuban friends.” The comment was posted in the Russian Foreign Ministry website.

    Russian warships and support vessels were sent to Venezuela in 2008 to take part in naval exercises in a show of Russian support for the leftist regime of Hugo Chavez. The ships also stopped in Cuba.

    Russian Deputy Premier Dmitri Rogozin announced in February that Russia was working on a plan to build 10 new attack submarines and 10 new missile submarines through 2030, along with new aircraft carriers.

    Submarine warfare specialists say the Akula remains the core of the Russian attack submarine force.

    The submarines can fire both cruise missiles and torpedoes, and are equipped with the SSN-21 and SSN-27 submarine-launched cruise missiles, as well as SSN-15 anti-submarine-warfare missiles. The submarines also can lay mines.

    The SSN-21 has a range of up to 1,860 miles.

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    Aug 15, 2012 2:04 AM GMT
    "...the Washington Free Beacon has learned."

    Learned from whom?

    I could imagine that since the subs were in international waters, there really was no reason for the US to do anything.

    Plus, just cuz you can track someone, doesnt mean you tell them that you are tracking them. The US may just be keeping mum so the Russians dont know if the US really knew they were there or not.

    And I can imagine, that a story saying they were undetected could be great counterintelligence. "Oh quelle horrors! We had no idea you were there. Well, egg on our face!"
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    Aug 15, 2012 2:08 AM GMT
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    Sep 08, 2012 11:28 AM GMT
    Caslon20000: "...the Washington Free Beacon has learned." Learned from whom? I could imagine that since the subs were in international waters, there really was no reason for the US to do anything. Plus, just cuz you can track someone, doesnt mean you tell them that you are tracking them. The US may just be keeping mum so the Russians dont know if the US really knew they were there or not. And I can imagine, that a story saying they were undetected could be great counterintelligence. "Oh quelle horrors! We had no idea you were there. Well, egg on our face!"

    jockfever: When information damaging to national security is leaked, the Left doesn't ask "from whom?"

    The story is about one "sub" not "subs."

    The US Navy is required to know the location of enemy ships (and it doesn't matter whether they are in "international waters") investing significant resources to achieve this mission. I supported that mission when I served in the Navy.

    Increasingly the Navy is unable to track enemy warships, as was shown when a previously undetected Red Chinese submarine surfaced near an aircraft carrier task force. This should be a concern to all patriotic Americans.

    Your cover story, for which there is no evidence, that the sub was detected but that it served some national security interest to release a story that it wasn't detected, is goofy. At least one senator is demanding an explanation from the Pentagon. If the US Senate wasn't a Lib cesspool, every US senator would require an explanation.

    The fact that this killer sub was able to operate undetected in our "backyard" comes at a time when the Marxist appeasement clown in the White House is trying to gut the US Navy, including its anti-submarine capabilities. That's the real story, with the clown's useful idiots and other anti-Americans predictably trying to put a smiley face on it.


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    Sep 08, 2012 11:36 AM GMT
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    jockfever: The Left can't be trusted with national security, but the author of the article, Bill Gertz, does take national security seriously.

    "Bill Gertz has been a national security reporter, editor, and columnist for 27 years. Bill is the author of six books, four of which were national bestsellers."
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    Sep 08, 2012 11:48 AM GMT
    I thought you were being quite lucid (for you) until I got to the 'Marxist appeasement clown' bit.

    That said, considering a communist state owns a good chunk of your debt, they may need a little appeasing in the years to come.
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    Aug 13, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8: I thought you were being quite lucid (for you) until I got to the 'Marxist appeasement clown' bit...

    August 12, 2013
    Russia Makes a Fool Out of Obama, Over and Over

    "...Putin did the worst he could to the U.S. on Snowden, and the U.S. responded with maximum softness...

    "[Obama's]"reset" policy was supposed to turn Russia into a cooperating partner on issues like Snowden, and it has blown up in his face, just as his critics predicted it would from the first...

    "Russia was happy to sign a nuclear weapons treaty that called on only the USA to cut weapons. When Obama sought a second round that would actually impose some cuts on Russia, Putin told him to drop dead...

    "America's moral leadership in Russia has vanished; America has betrayed those who stand for its values...

    "Just like Chamberlain, Obama's policy of appeasement has collapsed into humiliating failure, with devastating consequences for future generations to bear...

    "So far, Obama hasn't even had the fortitude to fire his ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, the architect of the ruinous reset, whose service in Russia has been a Keystone Cops fiasco from the first moment...

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/russia_makes_a_fool_out_of_obama_over_and_over.html

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    Aug 13, 2013 9:37 PM GMT
    IS THIS YET ANOTHER SOUTHBEACH (ANTI OBAMA) SOCK ACCOUNT ?????????
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    Aug 13, 2013 9:50 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidIS THIS YET ANOTHER SOUTHBEACH (ANTI OBAMA) SOCK ACCOUNT ?????????

    Worse, if possible. Posted from his profile:

    Not impressed by Statism, atheism, the theory of evolution, man-made global warming, socialism, the government screwal system, countercyclical spending, the revision of American history, Obama-mania, political correctness, etc.

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    Some, who don't know that a single living cell is way beyond human ingenuity, boldly proclaim that human beings are only mutational, naturally selected accidents.

    "Intelligence which denies Intelligent Design is self-denying."


    Therefore you may safely dismiss his posts as radical right wing, fundamentalist lunacy, pure propaganda masquerading as truth.
  • creature

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    Aug 13, 2013 11:01 PM GMT
    If the anti-gay laws that Putin supports are sane to you—more power to you; I'll pay for your ticket to move there.
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    Aug 14, 2013 2:07 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]Ex_Mil8 said

    That said, considering a communist state owns a good chunk of your debt, they may need a little appeasing in the years to come.[/quote]

    Unfortunately, you're right. icon_cry.gif
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    Aug 14, 2013 2:08 AM GMT
    If this sobering story is true, maybe this is why the president cancelled a meeting with Putin recently.
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    Sep 08, 2014 7:21 PM GMT
    About 2 years later, it's time for an update on the success of "APPEASEMENT ABROAD AND SOCIALISM AT HOME" which is so dear to gay Liberals...

    Webster666: IS THIS YET ANOTHER SOUTHBEACH (ANTI OBAMA) SOCK ACCOUNT ?????????

    Art_Deco: Worse, if possible. Posted from his profile:...


    Even some stupid Liberals (could they be the same twits who warned us about "cowboys" like Goldwater, Reagan and Bush?) are acknowledging that Maobama's policies have re-ignited the Cold War.

    Russian Bombers Near Canada Practice Missile Strikes on US

    Posted on September 8, 2014

    "Analysis of the flight indicated the aircraft were conducting practice runs to a pre-determined “launch box”—an optimum point for firing nuclear-armed cruise missiles at U.S. targets, said defense officials familiar with intelligence reports.

    "Disclosure of the nuclear bombing practice comes as a Russian general last week called for Moscow to change its doctrine to include preemptive nuclear strikes on the United States and NATO.

    http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/russian-bombers-russian-bombers-near-canada-practice-missile-strikes-us/


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    Sep 08, 2014 8:19 PM GMT
    jockfever, The USA is stronger now that you have joined TEAM PUTIN.
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    Sep 09, 2014 10:25 AM GMT
    Please. Putin is an ex-KGB thug that wrestles bears. Don't take him seriously darling.