To the many atheists on RJ:

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    Aug 15, 2008 3:16 AM GMT

    How do you cope with life's many ups and downs?

    Sickness, terminal illness, loss, loneliness, financial difficulty, etc - situations that you have completely no control over.

    Just curious.

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    Aug 15, 2008 3:27 AM GMT
    I deal with it as reality and do what needs to be done.
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    Aug 15, 2008 3:37 AM GMT
    Agnogitic here QUe Sera Sera What Will be Will be. You can't change anything. God does not exist so why place your hopes and fears into the hands of a mythical creature. Why not the Easter Bunny ?
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    Aug 15, 2008 3:41 AM GMT
    I think we learn our coping strategies from our parents, and other adults we observe as children. If you saw your parents (for example) lean on their faith in times of trouble, you're more likely to do that.

    My mother could have invented the saying "don't sweat the small stuff... and it's all small stuff." We tend to just accept the things we have no control over, even when they're very painful. As a result, we're very low-stress people.

    You mentioned loneliness though... that's one you can exercise control over!
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    Aug 15, 2008 3:45 AM GMT
    joeindallas saidAgnogitic here ... God does not exist ...

    Doesnt that make you an atheist? ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 15, 2008 3:53 AM GMT
    Caslon6000 said
    joeindallas saidAgnogitic here ... God does not exist ...

    Doesnt that make you an atheist? ... icon_rolleyes.gif


    An Agnostic is just like an Atheist who believes God does not exist...

    Unless, of course, there is a God. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Aug 15, 2008 4:27 AM GMT
    afterfall said
    How do you cope with life's many ups and downs?
    Sickness, terminal illness, loss, loneliness, financial difficulty, etc - situations that you have completely no control over.

    How does a belief in god make those experiences easier to cope with?
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    Aug 15, 2008 4:32 AM GMT
    obscenewish said
    afterfall said
    How do you cope with life's many ups and downs?
    Sickness, terminal illness, loss, loneliness, financial difficulty, etc - situations that you have completely no control over.

    How does a belief in god make those experiences easier to cope with?


    a belief in God gives you some sort of comfort that there is a greater plan, a reasonthat although you might not see it, there is one. When u think of loss it gives you a feeling that the people you love are in a better place rather than just in the ground dead, lonliness you can count on God to help you through it. Basically, to all of the things afterfall said, God is that best friend that is always there by your side through thick in thin guiding you. as a result a belief in Him, helps people to cope with lifes trials a bit easier. you have Someone to walk through the difficulties with rather than walking through them by urself.
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    Aug 15, 2008 4:52 AM GMT
    Caslon6000 said
    joeindallas saidAgnogitic here ... God does not exist ...

    Doesnt that make you an atheist? ... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Agnostics are Atheists with a backup plan.
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    Aug 15, 2008 4:55 AM GMT
    RBY71 said
    Caslon6000 said
    joeindallas saidAgnogitic here ... God does not exist ...

    Doesnt that make you an atheist? ... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Agnostics are Atheists with a backup plan.


    i like that... that was funny.
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    Aug 15, 2008 4:56 AM GMT
    Caslon6000 saidI deal with it as reality and do what needs to be done.



    Same here.
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    Aug 15, 2008 4:56 AM GMT
    afterfall said
    How do you cope with life's many ups and downs?

    Sickness, terminal illness, loss, loneliness, financial difficulty, etc - situations that you have completely no control over.

    Actually, wouldnt it make it worse to endure any of the above and believe there is a God who could be doing something about them...and isn't ... icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 15, 2008 4:59 AM GMT
    It's an interesting question. Those same things can also cause an individual to call into question the existence of a god. When you lose someone you care about or you're sick, can't that create just as much doubt as offer comfort?

    Personally, I cope by coping. You accept what you can't effect and you change the things you can. When you lose someone you go through the stages of grief. Rather than saying "It's God's will" you just say that everyone dies. It's a hard fact of life.

    That said, I don't begrudge anyone their beliefs. If God, Allah, etc. are in important part of your life, that's great. But that's just not what I personally draw my strength from and it wasn't a part of my upbringing.
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    Aug 15, 2008 4:59 AM GMT
    Caslon6000 said
    afterfall said
    How do you cope with life's many ups and downs?

    Sickness, terminal illness, loss, loneliness, financial difficulty, etc - situations that you have completely no control over.

    Actually, wouldnt it make it worse to endure any of the above and believe there is a God who could be doing something about them...and isn't ... icon_eek.gif


    no... reason being, its not His job to intervene and change direction, but to give u guidance and support to make it through whatever u are going through.
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:03 AM GMT
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:12 AM GMT
    GobB said
    Caslon6000 said
    afterfall said
    How do you cope with life's many ups and downs?

    Sickness, terminal illness, loss, loneliness, financial difficulty, etc - situations that you have completely no control over.

    Actually, wouldnt it make it worse to endure any of the above and believe there is a God who could be doing something about them...and isn't ... icon_eek.gif


    no... reason being, its not His job to intervene and change direction, but to give u guidance and support to make it through whatever u are going through.

    Who says it's not his job? ...Sounds like a rationalization for why you never see "God" intervening.

    Oh, I am not going to continue this...enjoy your deity

    kitten
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:16 AM GMT
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:19 AM GMT
    You'd need to know more about a religion before you understand why those aren't rationalizations or excuses.
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:23 AM GMT
    Caslon6000 said
    GobB said
    Caslon6000 said
    afterfall said
    How do you cope with life's many ups and downs?

    Sickness, terminal illness, loss, loneliness, financial difficulty, etc - situations that you have completely no control over.

    Actually, wouldnt it make it worse to endure any of the above and believe there is a God who could be doing something about them...and isn't ... icon_eek.gif


    no... reason being, its not His job to intervene and change direction, but to give u guidance and support to make it through whatever u are going through.

    Who says it's not his job? ...Sounds like a rationalization for why you never see "God" intervening.

    Oh, I am not going to continue this...enjoy your deity

    kitten


    hey caslon... i was simply giving an answer to your question, another perspective, nothing forced nothing personal thats all. i dont see a need for you to take it personal or to get personal. its an opinion on a thread, its ok to discuss without without getting so defensive. its ok bud, calm down lol.
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:27 AM GMT
    This thread took far too many posts before Ceiling Cat was brought in. I am shocked and appalled.

    *noms RBY's popflamecorn*
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:31 AM GMT
    blink777 saidThis thread took far too many posts before Ceiling Cat was brought in. I am shocked and appalled.

    *noms RBY's popflamecorn*


    Careful, I might just nom you! chomp.gif
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:38 AM GMT
    GobB> its not His job to intervene and change direction, but to give u guidance and support to make it through whatever u are going through.

    Then why are so many people wasting their time praying for Him to intervene and change things?


    afterfall> How do you cope with life's many ups and downs?

    When we were young we "coped" with losing our teeth by knowing that the tooth fairy would take the tooth and leave us a present under our pillow. As adults, we can cope with reality. Isn't that better?

    When someone gets sick and dies we can view it as a tragic event in a harsh and imperfect world. Or we can pretend that this was either the work of the devil or that the recently departed was needed in God's court for some higher purpose. Who has actually "coped" better with what happened?
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:48 AM GMT
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    Aug 15, 2008 5:49 AM GMT
    afterfall said
    How do you cope with life's many ups and downs?


    Rationally.